On Jim's List, Jim says that sense of humor is completely untranslatable. If you hope that your FSU bride will appreciate yours, he says, you're naive.
It says on Wikipedia that most Russian humor consists of telling memorizing jokes. It said that Russians find American humor "silly" and "pathetic."
I once lived with a Russian man for a couple years, and I don't know if he would be funny in Russia, but all he did was, probably everyday, approach people and tell them a memorized joke.
I'm a pretty funny guy at dinner parties, etc. I'm wondering if the language barrier or the Russian wife's sincerety is such that she won't appreciate my sarcasm. Or maybe it will register with her a little later than a native, so her timing will be a little off.
Most helpful will be experience from someone who actually knows someone married to an FSU woman, or is, instead of just speculation.
Western Sarcasm and wit is completely beyond the women I have met. Im a funny guy and Ive gotten into arguments with my humor, lots of blank looks but not one laugh!
Good. You realize I want to be proven wrong here. Jim has a lot to say about marrying FSU. Martin, thank you very much for comforting my worry. Knowing that you are in such a marriage helps drive away my doubt. You don't have to answer this in this public forum, but I'm curious how long you've been married. I'm not here to attack anyone or anyone's perception, I'm just here to arrive at the truth so that I can direct my own course with more confidence.
Following link tells you who Jim is. I hope you read it all and also follow the links and read them too.
http://agencyscams.com/
Here he lists specific agencies and lists them according to how reputable they are:
http://jimslists.com/
Here's a link from his page that always makes me concerned when I visit it. Specifically the statistics of the duration of Transatlantic Marriage.
Lux,
But please don't generalize, I've been lucky but it took me some 5 years of searching to find 'the one', FSU people are some of the nicest people one could wish to meet, they like to smile and laugh but there are exceptions and I met some of these exceptions in my 5 years of searching.
I am willing to search 10 years if I can find an ideal companion. Besides, I would be willing to bet it won't take me quite so long as most in this forum, because I'm practically moving to Ukraine in a little less than a year.
I'm going on a Peace Corps mission to Ukraine, so I'll have 27 months there, instead of just a few weeks. Of course, unlike the gentlemen who go there searching for a mate, who can spend all their time there searching, I will be busy in service; but, at the same time, I believe I won't feel so rushed as others, and plus I'll more thoroughly learn the language.
Jim's lists jim's agency scams from vast experience -jims a dickhead who for 2 cents i'd put his own mother on a scam list after much reaserch his has got to be the most incorrect site of scam on the net .
Article around 6 months ago the idiot had somebodies wife up in lights as a recent scammer yet she was happily married living in USA jim got it all wrong for about the 30th time he near got sued .
Had to take her down what a dog of a site half the worlds email addresses according to ''jim'' are scam - people wives that are happy according to ( bart simpson - jim ) are all crooks .
Id pay big bux to see jim in chains and his site burnt at the stake .
mans a fool . bloody scam site's are a joke they pull 6 pics off the net sit down with a ''joint'' and smoke up a story slap it under the poor birds pics .
what a heathen .
mike00
I believe it too regarding Anastasia but it didn't come from Jim, Anastasia are blacklisted all over the web and since long before 'Jim' was ever heard of.
jims lists is a joke - iam sure he heads down the park with a polaroid snaps a few birds feeding the wildlife then slaps em up on site with a huge codemnation notice .
Hell he had a blokes wife on thier recently until higher authority made him take her down
Yes anastasias is blackened everywhere
they should put jim's up in lights beside anastasia ---there all on the con for a $$
I have little credence in me for sacam sights they get it wrong more than right - you know .
I do wonder if jim was challenged over some poor sole on his scam site to produce proof she is a crook if indeed he could produce the letters - il bet he cant .
i had a beautiful go at him recently ----so many of his site girls you know are suspected of taking a $$$ ?????
a scammer is not a scammer until $$ have changed hands .
a CROOK IS NOT A CROOK UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY .
TALK about condemming the crim before the trail jeses wept .
mike00
ps jim is a johhnY come lately with an attitude problem read is site he obviously hates all birds from A to Z
Despite how often, or not so often, that I might disagree with MIKE00 his most recent post does find me agreeing, in the main, with him.
I, you, or anybody could start a website tomorrow, let us call it Mike & Martin's Anti Scam Site, and thereafter we could set about copying and pasting from other existing and well respected sites and labelling these reports as being our own.
Thereafter we could approach established FSU dating related sites to offer them a special deal for advertising on our well established Anti Scam site and we could reap in the revenue from all this advertising by simply copying and pasting from other sites.
Now why didn't somebody think of this before, oh excuse us, Jim did :)
As a Brit who married an American, I can point out that it's not just Russians who don't get 'western' humour. My AW was totally clueless, as to the meaning of a 'joke', while I could be rolling on the floor with laughter.
Humour is cultural so if you're not from that country, you are not going to get it, whether Asian, Russian or from Timbuktu.
She'll get it eventually once she's immersed long enough in your culture. Until then maybe it's better to spare her your best one-liners.
One of my former roommate, a social scientist, lived in Germany a couple years, with other Americans. He told me that the German sense of humor is as different from our own as the 5th grade student's is different from his 35 yo teacher (different meaning only that--different. He wasn't saying who was the teacher and who was the studdent).
That the teacher can understand why the class convulses in laughter at a certain something, but simply does not find it worth laughing at.
Our hope, then, is that our FSU woman's assimilation of American...
culture...will end after "sense of humor" and before "intolerant, fastidious, family is subordinate to friends and career, narrow-minded, inflexible, etc."
So that's where we obviously want her acculturation, right? She comes to a point where she appreciates Will Ferrel, but she doesn't embrace all the bs her new American girlfriends are telling her about family.
Oh yeah, to finish the roommate story. An anecdote:
He participated in a Quorum, a forum like this one, only there were people you could sit across from. He stood in front of the group to talk, and would deliver a joke. All the American men would laugh, and none of the Germans. Next to talk was a German. The German said something, intentionally a joke, or maybe unintentionally funny. All the Germans laughed, and the American men just looked at one another.
As my former roommate understood this, there was no hostility between the Americans and Germans; in fact, they were all part of the same faction working toward a goal. The point is that, though the American men could speak with the Germans, they could not joke with them.
Now...I've been thinking quite a lot about this lately. You might think that slipping on a banana peel would be funny to everyone, or at least to portions from every culture. But I've read that in the FSU, no one laughs at that sort of farce. Maybe we Americans do because real pain is a bit further removed from us. Whatever the reason, I still believe there ARE some types of jokes that are communicable across the Atlantic.
For instance, I was watching Sayonara, starring Marlon Brando and James Garner. The movie is about an American soldier, Gruver, who starts out a bit racist but ends up falling in love and marrying a Japanese woman. While they were watching a Japanese theatre production, an actor dressed as a monster stepped onto the stage. Gruver leans over to the Japanese woman, smacks his hand on his heart and says, "My father!"