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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How many men on here who are married to a FSU woman? Author Post Lux Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2006 1:38:02 PM   I can see a lot of testimonials on sites which show a western man just married or just engaged to a FSU woman. Only that's not as encouraging as seeing someone whose transatlantic marriage has already lasted several years. I don't need to be convinced that I could go to the FSU and woo a woman to marry me, etc. But in this country where divorce is more common than marital quality and stability, I wanna see some evidence of a western man and FSU woman having been married for several years. I see a ton of statistics which, if it weren't for my hope, would convince me that marrying cross-cultural only adds a lot of stress to an already stressful transition in life. For instance, studies have shown that marrying the endogamously, not exogamously (I use these terms in case someone wants to more easily find the studies), that is, marrying within your culture and even your ethnicity (here come the politically correct police), is far more conducive to a stable marriage than not. I don't need to convince anyone that marriage is a big jar in life, positive or negative. Add to that a daily life of trying to communicate intimately with someone who doesn't even dream in your language. She'll have to watch your American movies (most the time), she's in America, eat American food, talk American talk, practice our customs. Now I am learning Russian, for one purpose and one alone--to make it easier for us to communicate, once I find her. But still I have these fears. Lux Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2006 12:38:40 AM   I just gathered that CODERED and MARTIN are married to FSU. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2006 10:51:30 PM   Don't worry Lux, Satellite TV carries Russian/Ukrainian Channels in the US. Also they will find a network of other Russian/Ukrainian people. We eat very little american food at our house. Mostly Ukrainian meals. My wife currently talks daily to about four wives whose men are former members of this forum. The transition is a little difficult but not mearly as difficult as you might think. First and foremost, is if your lady doesn't drive now, get her driving lessons in her country first. When she comes here the transition isn't that difficult and she won't feel so land locked. Unless you live in a large city, public transportation isn't as accessible as it is in Ukraine. She has the freedom now, if she is bored at home she can easily go somewhere and explore her new surroundings. By preparing early you can prevent a lot of that stress for her. Lux Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2006 4:20:24 PM   Nasfan6, thank you. So that means you know five people, including yourself, who are in an inter-ethnic marriage? tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 5:20:13 AM   2 years for my self and I know 2 more that have been married 2 years or more gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 10:45:33 AM   Lux there are quite a few former regulars to the forum happily married,myself for over 2 years,bit of an infeequent visitor lately but still try to check out the forum from time to time. I would endorse Nasfan's comments about thorough preparation wholeheartedly.The easier you can help your lady make the transition the greater your chances of a successful realtionship. Sashi79k Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 10:57:00 AM   Hello Lux, your thoughts sound like my Mom :) Nope thats not an offense.. thats actually with respect :) I am from India but have been living in the US for about 7 years now ... India has one of the lowest divorce rates that I known of. Since I spent 20 years of my life in India I can say this - Indian family life is a lot different, I would say about 90% of the marraiges are arranged by parents.. so the men and women dont choose their life partners - their parents do ... and it is very interesting to see that statistics show that less than 1% of marraiges end up in Divorce in India when you compare that to a 50% in the US.. , one would think - God !! if american men and women choose their partners by themselves and still end up getting divorced (every 1 in 2 marraiges in US fail) then Indian marraiges should shouldnt last at all :) but thats not the case ... Well I have known women from a few cultres, and have personally witnessed both American and Indian families get divorced and these are families and friends that I have known for years.. and here is what i know - I have read a lot about FSU women being family oriented and they are good wives and mothers and that they work hard to keep their marraiges going - even when abused by their husbands they still love them ... Hmmmm - I think someone hasnt met an Indian woman :) If thats what you want - Loyalty, Understanding and a caring wife - your best bet is with an Indian Girl :) India has very beautiful women too, infact India has the 2nd highest number of Miss World Pagents right next to Venezuala .... :) Ah there is one little problem though ... it will be easier to get an elephant to fly than to get an Indian women to date outside of her ethnics... I have a ton of Indian friends (offcourse I am Indian) I would have to say... I dont know of a single Indian Girl married or even dating someone who is NON Indian !!! and so there comes your Claim about endogamous/ exogamous relations ... I have asked some Indian women about dating Western Men... the united answer was ... Oh No they are not fit for a family Life..! Hey No offense to the western Man....:) I am dating a FSU women myself because I have been branded by Indian Women as being too Western and not good for Family Life ..:) Poor me ..! Soob Sob :) So yeah - I think that, what you said is correct, when you marry within your culture or ethnics I beleive that there is a better probability that the marraige will last.... Im not saying Intra-Ethnic marraiges wont last ... Just the probabilty is better when you marry within your culture ... and its for a good reason :) wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 3:23:54 PM   My reply to the points on which you requested information: My transatlantic marriage with a Ukrainian woman has lasted for 3 years and 1 month. We are not from the same culture or ethnicity, but we believe in the same religion. She also speaks English fluently. She likes American movies very much. She does not like American food that much thank God. As a result, she maintains the same weight and proportions as she did when I first met her. She talks American talk, no problem there. We together practice the same American customs, no problem there either. In addition, she very successfully attends a college program with a gpa of 4.0 so far (beats the hell out of the natives). She also have plans to continue for a master's after she's done with her college degree. She's ambitious, tries hard for success, believes in herself and in our family. Conclusion: could not have asked for something better and would certainly not have found it in this country (at least in the geography where I live). Best of luck! wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 3:42:01 PM   Indian girl you say? interesting! I could have married one in a certain occasion had I wanted trust me!! Some Indian girls are very sweet. I'm just not too much into dark skin. Dating an Indian girl could be an interesting experience for some from the point of view of trying something different, but for me it could not be a for ever type thing. Have in mind physical appearance preferences play a very important role. Most people here are looking for a bride with European looks and fair white skin, and hopefully all the family orientation, chemistry, etc. The Christian bible says: don't mix the races, and I believe you should not mix races that are too different either physically or culturally. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2006 7:56:09 PM   UX i know of 4 russian girls married to Australian men where i live hear in Aussie all within a 25k radius of me. Get lots of visits as iam myself engaged to a FSU WOMAN ( i don't plan to marry for awhile ) - we'l; just see what unfoldes . Not a big believer in marriage ---- ive been burnt before- once bitten twice shy ! I can state i see absolutely nothing but harmony in the 4 couples where i live although the age difference and the ways of thinking in most respects are vast i still see no worries. They seem to have an uncanny ability to adapt to situations , mind you iam sure it takes some input from both sides to make everthing correct . To try analise them ----does not work - i gave up years ago trying to sit down and decipher there ways i just go along with the flow -----you can't get in any trouble that way . Learn russian yes great idea my girl talks to me in russian methodicaly then recites what she has just said in english --------ok its slower but ive done ok on the learning . I can't say the couples i know have worries !! I thought to myself years ago ohh god the age differences ( being in cases 20 years and beyond would cause a drama ) but no ive not seen that - won't say it does not happen but not witnessed in my time thats for sure. Races marrying well i dont know of that i think if two love each other -------so be it destiny will take them where they should be . My two cents - advice mate for what its worth Don't pressure them Don't fear your age when you meet em - because they don't give a toss about age . Be firm if in altercation if you are right - they are wrong ! lay your cards on the table - where you want to be in life with them . Who's country do you want to live in ?--------contrary to belief not all of them are qued up at the fence wanting to escape . The paradox of '' ohh we all want to live in the west !! is a falicy - i don't think i could drag mine out of russia with a team of 6 horses to live in another country forever ! Holidays yes but she always returns to the nest whence started from. Returns pretty fast to as if she is at the end of a very long elastic band . I do believe that is where guys get into deep water - automatically assuming they all want to leave Russia . Half the time they look at you strange when the western country question of living pops up . Most want to try but like mine on holiday to hear once she seen all the political crap she turned turtle real quick. Give you some stats - look em up if you wish ok 704 Aussies live permanent in russia / latvia area - of those 207 are living thier for 1 reason only - the other half ! of those 207 well half have gone thier in the last 3 years . So this dispells the myth somewhat of "oh god they all want to escape " guys are happy to go thier to live . Amazing info on some govvy sights in to just whom is living where - i got the shock of my life . You have 93 USA guys living in cheboksary alone and 27 in yoshkar-ola - several other towns i can relate to the USA and other western countries populations seem's to be growing in russia/ukraine . Can't say as i blame those guys as its a ''great escape'' from the politicaly correct western countries of ---work and pay bills till you die and answer to every basterd. ( HOW RUDE ) and history talks of Stalin!!! - jeses wept look at the political do-wells in our countries - you can't even smoke without some do-gooder giving you a lecture . ( IF A PERSON WANTS TO DIE THROUGH SMOKE ITS THIER CHOICE ) You can't walk your dog without a permit! you can't fart in the office without some officious biggot reporting you ! Its all "yay team" lets kiss the boss's arss ----( and we want the girls to endure that ???) do we love them or hate them ? BRING THEM TO A NON POLITICALY CORRECT PARADISE YES -BUT NOT TO ACCOUNTABILTY HELL. Fancy bringing a woman to that??? -stand in the que mentality lets all become accountable robots -----no thanks!!! we'l do things different eg:--- what suits us !!!! Ok iam getting off the track hear ------in respect to the women very family orientated long as you get the correct one ( hey ive never had much time for the zodiac's but myself and mine are whats said - perfect match we go great ) I think the old zodiac must have a bit to do with it ------i was never a believer in it but not so now. I think its a big mistake to pressure them into '' come on dear lets go live in Aussie / Usa / pommy land . { forget kiwi land as they have enough poverty where they are -lol lol } Example - mine has no interest learning drive a car / trying to be a huge career nut ! or being part of the western "resume society " - eg: here is my resume please hire me ! beg / grovel - they are too proud to do that. I believe what many men assume is that the woman should be indoctrined western way - i learnt the hard way -----ask em first they will tell you all you wish to know but they wont tell you what you dont ask for --------simple ask and thyne shall recieve . I doubt very much i could sell my girl a full time ticket to Aussieland for a million bux . Best girl to get to come live with you in western country is one whom has no reason left to stay where she is!! eg: parents relies either all gone to god or you know are not close enough any more to warrent expensive trips back to pacify the lonely tears she may shed in homesickness. If you do your homework you can aviod all the traps as iam sure TRAVELLER 2 will agree with me ------not all want to leave mother russia ! id say on average ok 50/ 50 would want to try another country . Viewing my girl and her girlfriends well ive asked them all -would you like to leave full xtc11 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2006 4:33:24 PM   wtrav02 Agree with you there 100% regarding the race mixing: "Abraham (from whom all of the original white British peoples derive ) prevented his son Issac from inter marrying among the dark skinned Canaanites .. Abraham said ....."thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of Canaanites,among whom I dwell"(GENESIS.24:3)." BUT if you are into bible prophecy that is another link for another time on another forum. One of the best things about ukraine and Russia is you actually feel that you are in a white European country. Where as if you go to some u.k cities you often feel as if you could be in Pakistan or africa. Philly Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 1:27:12 AM   I am very disappointed in the need for one or two white supremacists to use this forum for racist bullshit! We're all supposed to be here to help each other find our paths to finding an FSU woman. Why muck it up with your politics? You skinheads ignore history. America's founding fathers fled other white people who persecuted them for their religious beliefs. Every white European ethnic group suffered white on white discrimination when the immigrated to America. Just talk to some old timer Irish, or Italians, or Germans, or Polish, or Jews. So were the hate mongers correct then, or are they suddenly correct now that that white supremacists have forgotten they all come from different cultures in Europe, many of whom still don't get along? Who said it's okay for white supremacists to hijack this forum and use the Holy Bible as an instrument of hate?!! If you don't find yourself attracted to a nonwhite woman, then fine, it's a free world. But that's no reason to be a hater on this forum. Surely there must be some other dark and dank website for you to crawl under. stevenb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 7:39:02 AM   Philly Why dont you go you go back to your politically correct world and and continue trying to ingratiate fawn and crawl to ethnics and see if these people respect you any more if that is what you feel you need to do. I went to Russia 3 years ago ago and it was a beautiful breath of fresh air to see that Russia is NOT swamped with black African culture unlike the U.S which is turning into a nation of black Africans with american passports. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 9:01:19 AM   What the hell are you talking about idiot? if your IQ is in the low teens, then be cognizant of the fact and ask for clarification. Who talked about white supremacy, you just had it in your mind and you found an opportunity to post it. So, I have to take directions from you with respect to the color of skin of the woman I’m gonna date or marry?? Hahahahaha you’re so damn funny pal::)) I was never attracted to women with dark skin, that’s what I said and I stand by it. How’s that perceived as white supremacy???::))) The Holy Bible says exactly what xtc11 wrote. Get hold of a bible or at least browse the net (that fits better your IQ capacity) to find some information first before you expose yourself what a dumb ass you are. Your accusations are the worst joke, there was nothing said above that would lead you to say such stupidities. Again if you don’t understand something, there is no harm asking:) BTJames Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 10:53:40 AM   we in Britain certainly do not need any lectures about white supmacists from black power merchants or white men that think they are black men such as philly. Britain has always been a white native land inhabited and carved out from the wilderness by the white natives that have lived there from the beginning of time. What exactly that has got to do do with "whitesuprmacists" that philly prattles on about is totally bizzare. jc Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 11:28:34 AM   hey guys keep your preference of color to yourself and don't use the bible to substantiate your preferences. "Don't take God's words in vain" jc jc Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 11:32:06 AM   Sashi! More power to you man. Go for whatever your heart's desires. You only have but one life, so live it to the fullest. jc wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 1:46:10 PM   Napoleon was a Corsican and he had an affection for puffy white women. He used to say that the only "real" women (according to his opinion) were pale white women. Perhaps he didn't know it at the time but he was a white supremacist::)) maybe a couple guys in this forum should get on board the time machine and go tell Napoleon, so he doesn't embarass his ass in the history books::)) Lux Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 2:29:58 PM   I'm not a Genetics major, but I thought that the more you melt what's in the pot, the more you mix up the gene pool, the more superior the outcome. Weren't the royalty in Britain scraping from the bottom of the pot when they married brothers and sisters to keep the regal line "pure?" Then you get Kings with IQs of 60, because they didn't mix around in the gene pool. Lux Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2006 2:52:06 PM   Moreover, my above comment should be even more accepted, since my personal preference is "pale white skin," which I call "fair skin." Still, my intellectual belief is that we should mix ethnicities as much as possible (I'm sorry if I offend anyone wearing a swastika in this forum). - But I think we've lost the thread of our discourse, so just to address what's been written: I'm EXTREMELY grateful for Nasfan, Tradman, Gladiator, Sashi, wtrav02, Mike, etc. Your advices have fallen on perked ears. Sashi, that's interesting about Indian women, but two things. First, according to your advice, we could throw a blanket generalization over Indian women that they don't believe Western men are marriage material. I like generalizations. They can hurt you, but they can help you if you start out knowing nothing...many are warranted. Second, most Indians' religion is not like mine, which is Christ-centered. Correct me if I'm wrong. But the Russian-Orthodox Church believe pretty much what I do. So I would fit right in (maybe). As a rule I'm sure that marrying within your ethnicity is not only more practical, but a wise choice, so as not to invite even more stress into your union...UNLESS YOU'RE AN AMERICAN MAN. I don't have to elaborate too much there. It's a pity we can't just find a good crop of good women here with us, who went to the same elementary schools and grew up in the same country. That would make this a perfect world. I've been reading an excellent book Culture Shock! Ukraine. From the description of Ukraine, it sounds like hell. The Russian mafia is everywhere, you don't know who's mafia and who is just an entrepreneur, the police are hardly any help (unless you have diplomatic immunity with a green card), most locals try to rip you off, the tax system and court system and law system and law enforcement system is so arbitrary, racism abounds unflinchingly, sexism is taken for granted, pollution's everywhere, nobody can trust the government (not that we totally do, but we really do compared to them; and understandably). However, despite all of this, some women miss their motherland if they move away. It's home. It's like how some women seem to seek out abusive men, because as a very small child their father was abusive, and it's familiar...even if painful. But I suppose that's an outsider's view. Maybe they find problems with America, too. Some of them, when they come here, agree with one another that we seem artificial. Anyway, even though it could be hell, I am willing to move there permanently as an expatriate. Not sure about jobs there and such. Russian brides > Main Forum > How many men on here who are married to a FSU woman?
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