She told me about her losing her job when I was there and she was out of money and asked me to help her financially. I had a hard time to come to terms with the concept, but she explained to me sex was one thing and helping as a friend was another ... to back her statement she also said her twin sister, Natasha, was seeing another American, 43 years old (I am 36), with no intent to get married. Natasha sees this guy every 2-3 months and they have fun for 7-10 days in Kiev. He sends her money continuously through WU. Natasha who met this guy through a social ... does not work and depends on this guy's payments. This guy was also there when I was in Kiev two weeks ago and after he left, Natasha took off with her friends to Odessa for vacation ... Anyway, I gave Marina $10 the first time she asked me for money and $60 the second time when she told me that she thought I didn't give a damn about her situation and showed me her wallet with a couple of bucks inside.
When I came back, we continued emails and phone calls and made plans to see each other at the end of August at which time formal engagement would take place. Something didn't sit quite well in my mind during all this time and I suspected that Marina wasn't quite honest with me. While in Yalta, she wanted me to take a lot of pictures of her including naked pictures(!) and then insisted to have them developed in Ukraine so she could have the prints (and I did her the favor). She was very comfortable posing naked and touching her body. Although I am an experienced and well traveled man, sometimes I was shocked. The last few days I searched the Ukrainian sites for escort services, etc. and surprise there I found her lame pictures advertising her disgusting services.
You stupid I suspected she was an escort and tried to find proof since she pretended innocent until I exposed her. Don't all scammers do this? when asked, do they come forward saying yes you're right I'm a scammer.
You did the same things to Martin trying all over the net to find web pages to discredit him, you're a very sorry individual ... you may continue as you wish. I do not need to go to other web sites since you have plenty of stupid material of yours all over this board::))
I quote YOUR words from the other site (same girl and story as above).
"well, I, the unsuspected fool American dated this girl 2 weeks ago in Kiev and took her to a vacation in Yalta as well. My purpose of visit was marriage...."
Well you had the fifth word right anyway.
But "purpose of visit was marriage" - isn't that what a fiance IS?
Look at the bright side trav. For the first time in a LONG TIME - your name is fianlly involved in SOMETHING having to do with the PURPOSE of this forum!
Feels kind of funny for you to be on subject again after such a long time huh?
Dude, you do not realize that what you say does not incriminate me by any means, you're accomplishing the exact opposite. Yes of course I was there for the purpose of meeting someone with whom I had correspondence, WITH THE OBJECTIVE IF THINGS WORKED OUT TO MARRY THAT PERSON. Isn';t this the objective of everyone in this forum except for you of course?? what is wrong going to see someone with whom I had correspondence? did I ever say that I was engaged to that woman? and how could I since we only had one meeting and about a week after my return I knew who she really is and had parted any association.
Fiance is someone with whom you are engaged (do I need to teach you what the term means? I thought you were married once in the age of 21, so you must be aware what a fiance is). I said that I dropped that woman once I found out her true identity and puprpose of being involved in ht edating business.
In fact, that woman was and likely still is frequenting socials of all companies, so you may get the chance to meet as well::))
"well, I, the unsuspected fool American dated this girl 2 weeks ago in Kiev and took her to a vacation in Yalta as well. My purpose of visit was marriage "
After two weeks you say you already intended to marry her!!
You're simply playing with the words. I never intended to marry that woman. What I meant was that my purpose of visit was to detrmine if we were suited for marriage. Why don't you go back to every thread (since you have the time) and find what every member said before they went to visit someone with whom they had correspondence.
Since I noticed you mention it often, at least learn how to write it: it's consistEncy (not consistAncy).
I am not a public figure (although your attention would suggest otherwise), so I can write in any context I want. As I said, you can spend the rest of tonight analyzing what I said, how I said it, and what I really meant. This got to be the most productive you've been since fourth grade.
It's been fun playing with you and I'm impressed with your search engine skills and swift comebacks, but I've got other things to do now. So, I will let you have the playground all by yourself. With your intelligence, you can act as if it is two of you, so you can ask questions and then pretend that you give the answers as well. Try it, it will work for you:).
jetmba
Member
Send: 19.11.2006 16:28:01
(The girls name was Marina Voloshina.
Though I no longer have the link where trav showed off his miniscule member getting a bj but here is a link where he tells the story.)
To post a link to another's posting was 'taboo' according to the 'chosen few'. I guess, as has become monotonously familiar, there is one rule for the 'chosen few' and another rule for 'normal people'.
Here's the full story. My Moldovan lady and I were walking down the street - she looks incredible, even by FSU standards and (against my better judgement) she instisted that I dress up in a Hugo Boss suit with a fancy leather dresscoat. Is it possible to look more foreign than I did? Probably not - but I did it for her. A police officer stops me and asks for my Passport and Visa - I had an irregularity and she was not carrying her national identity card at all (she is not legally required to carry it anyway). I cannot understand a word that is being spoken between them - but my girl varies between smiling nervously and being angry - the police officer laughingly comments but occassionally also looks quite angry - three times the police officer motions to me to follow him further down the street - as we walk toward the police station - we cover about three blocks, stoppinng for perhaps twenty minutes to a half hour for an "coversation" between my Moldovan and the officer - each time the officer gets angry and leads me further down the street until my girl intercepts again. At one point my girl says quietly - I think we have to pay him off get out 50 lei (about $5), then 100 lei, next stop 200 lei (about $20).
Finally I hear my girl giving what sounds like a number to the police officer before he accepts the bribe and lets me go. When we are finally released and out of the officers sight my girl exclaims "I hate this country!" and I ask waht happened - she said that the police officer stopped us because he said she had nice legs - he was angry becasue she was with a foreigner and claimed that all the good looking ones were leaving the country. He wanted money but he also wanted sex with her - and would not even accept the bribe until she gave him her phone number. It was a mobile phone number and in Moldova not registered -also she resisted giving out her last name or address though he asked. The officer called four times while I was there insisting on collecting on his "bargain". Each time she told him to get lost and hung up - but we never ventured into that area again.
(2) I named this one "the bidet and olga washing socks and underwear"::))
Not only is the bidet handy for feet. It can be a great assist in washing socks. Planned to stay for two weeks -actually stayed for three. Moldovans have no phone books (with laundry services), no laundermats, and I had no washing machine. The streets are dirty and it rained a lot.
Within ten days everything I had was bloody awful (now you have me saying it...). Olga offered to have her mother hand wash my shirts and pants (they have no wash machine) - but somehow that did not seem appropriate to me. Olga told me that her mother wouldn't mind (???) but that no one would wash someone else's underwear or socks that must be done (she said) and she suggested I do it in the bathroom and hang them from the shower-rod. Now maybe I don't travel often enough for long periods - or maybe I just generally pack enough (or maybe I would just be tempted to throw the dirty stuff out and buy new socks and underwear rather than scrub and hang a bunch of stuff in the bathroom) but I did it - with the aid of the bidet.
Through my lady - I spoke to the hotel staff and finally found a way to do my pants and my shirts. A lady on the staff took them in and washed and ironed them charging me 280 lei (about 25$!) for 14 items. But I have never in my life had my blue jeans pressed with such a fine crease before (three pair).
(3) This one is called: "is he the only one who does not know that he's duped?"
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jetmba
Member
Send: 06.02.2004 9:36:17
I had a great time with the two Moldovan women I met in Odessa last year. And I have already mentioned that I called many times until their numbers were suddenly chnaged due to an expansion of the Moldovan phone system. But there are several issues I have grown suspicious of that I would like to throw out to the forum for comments.
First - its always been my stance that, withing limits, helping out a little after you've gotten to know them in person is okay. Well one is asking for money now everytime I talk to her. Keeping in mind that Moldova is the poorest country in Europe and she lives alone with her mother who is retired (father passed away) I have sent money for an electric heater, a winter coat, a television (for her birthday). Altogether I have sent around $500. Now she is asking for an additional $100 becasue she claims to have no electricity - the meter is broken and she must pay to have it fixed. Does this seem rational to anyone out there?
Also she lives in a two room flat with her mother. No television (until she purchases it when the electricity is restored). Just a radio. Yet no matter when I call day or night she is always there. (Of course I never call her in the middle of the night - but she is there in early morning or late evening and anything in between. She never seems to leave - for ANYTHING.) Does this seem to make any sense to anyone?