I agree with bear. Any girl will be looking for someone who can and will care of them. I have not been in great financial health lately. I don't have a home for her, at least not yet. I gave up my home to get away from my last wife. My gf is still with me.
Beemer, my first Ukrainian girl in Kiev was a very good singer. I still have her CD of nineteen songs. I don't understand 98% of the words, but it is great music for fast and slow dancing, especially her love songs. I had it translated. She was also an actress, very beautiful and a former host to a TV variety show in Dnepropestrovsk. I have dated only one other girl in five years since my divorce. She captivated me, and took me a long time to get over her. She had another man, or men and had another agenda. I told the story one time before, but I left her in the middle of the night.
The doctor in Zaporozhye would have been a mistake. She was pretty, but her body was much too flat for me. I already told you some of the things that she was that repulsed me, but I was never good at dating and I wanted to go back to work. She was also a bad mother. She was constantly hassling her boy for things that could not be helped. I didn't have doubts about her being a doctor until I thought about it much after our meeting. Having a doctor for a wife, was appealing. As an accountant, I worked with doctors most of my life and it would be easy for me to put up a profitable clinic.
Sometimes, you just talk yourself into things. I just got through two loveless marriages totaling 17 years.
Listening to the actress in Kiev's CD's did not help in getting over her. As I got back from Ukraine, I looked at her pictures and memories of her. There was her CD. I didn't hear her sing at all in person, but her CD just captivated me. She sang it with emotion and the music rivaled any waltz music I ever heard. I just had to have it translated. That's when I decided that I needed to feel the feelings she described again. I decided to go back to Ukraine. I was back in three months. There was Tanya, the doctor waiting for me.
I have not listened to it in a long time, but here are the lyrics of my favorite song from her...
It will get dark in your eyes
Just like a path of the autumn orchard( garden)
The feather will sway
Just like a flood of the mad river
Because of the sad farewell
Quiet and helpless tear
Will not warm up
By your warm and dear hand
We are not a strangers anymore
And there is not closer people than we are
I donít believe in fairy tales
And in this sudden unexpected dream
In a sorrow of saying goodbye
Right now our next meeting is lightning up
And it flies and burns
Just like a comet an empty train station
No one will cry out this time
And our tears at a night time
And will not going to tell us
That rain in August and Snow in January
No one will cry out the time
When I am going to wait for you
And will tell about us
Not a sun and a moon in the skies
I did tell the doctor I am going back in the summer shortly I got back in November, 2008. My current schedule is September. I had not heard from her since - until today. I just got an e-mail from her. Her hard drive went out. All of her pictures are gone. She wants me to e-mail her the pictures of her son, me and her at the park and the pictures we took on Valentine's Day, 2007. In other words, all of our pictures together.
She says she cried for the last two days because all of the pictures from her hard drive are gone. I know the pictures of her ex-husband are there and probably pictures of others who visited her. I am just going to e-mail her the pictures. I might visit her if my gf and I do not follow through.
Ha ha.... I got another e-mail. She thinks I'm meeting with her this summer. I never said such thing.
MY DEAR THANKS YOU the BIG THAT YOU HAVE sent me PHOTOS, I AM very happy, THAT
YOU HAVE kept mine And »ň‹» the PHOTO. AS At YOU BUSINESS, AS the LIFE
I TODAY ALREADY ON the AZOV SEA Also CAN not WRITE MEAL to YOU IF I SHALL buy
the MODEM I CAN WRITE to YOU And IF is not present I SHALL write to YOU WHEN I
SHALL return With my YEARS JOB
KISS YOU YOU GENTLY. UP TO the MEETING.
Dream marriage is pretty much all scam. The girls make a % of the money that the man pay's. Video chat, translations, flats, flowers and each girl is told if the man shows up in her city she must meet with him at least once. Most of these girls are making from $500 to $800 a month.
Olga, it would be good if the men were wanting or seeking this type of entertainment. Unfortantly most of these men, although not the brighest of men, were sincere in hoping to find a good Russian or Ukraine wife. Instead they got, and are getting, scammed.
Thats a fair comment, how do you know if you are being scammed if you have never been scammed before. What if you go into a marriage agency with the intention of finding someone to get to know and get married eventualy. It gets your goat when someone says you should have known better. Is there no place in the world for honesty anymore. It seems that a vast majority of the agencies a rife with scammers and that is not for me to be embarassed about if i was a decent ukranian i would be embarrassed by it, the agencies are making the women virtualy untrustworthy and that is down to the people who run them and they are ukrainian and russian. If i was stupid enough to fall for a scam oh really yes thats right it was all my fault i am guilty for being stupid, dont worry about the scumbag scammers they are accepted they are ok dont worry about them, lets just laugh at the victims.
Thing about dream marriage is some of the girls enter into it with the best intentions. if they are popular they then get cash incentives from the agencies, the very young girls mostly sit and chat and do nothing else. I know a young woman there her agency has a policy that a girl has to be available to chat 24 hours a day. The damage is done by the older women of the age where they could marry you and you wont feel like a perv. The girl i met has offered to communicate via yahoo messenger because she does not like the way her agency treats her and uses her as a commodity, maybe this girl could turn out to be sincere only time will tell.
Well said, Riley, figgis. I will not call you stupid. People in this forum are not tollerant. Being scammed by beautiful women or being scammed at all. It is easy to say it is so if you know it. But until you know it, you just don't know.
I have been visiting odessa for the last 4 years....i am married to a ukrainian girl...we have two sons. aged 2 and 1 month.
My wife has a many friends.....nearly all of them scam....there is maybe 40% that dont scam.
However the ones that dont scam are not on any dating websites!!!..
The girls on the dating websites are ALL scammers!.....heres the deal.....they all want to scam you initially...but may be 5% of them actually fall in love....to conclude scam first...and then accidently have genuine feelings.
Most of them have exsisting local boyfriends. They want YOU to buy presents and spend money on them.
When i first arrived to Ukraine...i went to an English language school and asked for Russian Lessons. Thats how i met my wife.
I didnt pay for anyone...all other sytudents and teacherss were happy to hang out with me to improve there english.
Scamming is a industry in Ukraine....they are financially dependent on western men.
I have local knowledge and it is conclusive that what local girls expect from a western man is totally differnet from a local man!!!
Nearly all scam but 40% don't? I think you have your facts wrong. My wife has many friends who are on dating sites and not one of them is a scammer.
This is almost the same story told by "The Gob" who popped in for a haircut and found the woman of his dreams.
Maybe most women in Odessa scam, since it's probably the most criminal city in Ukraine right now, with trafficing in women and Russian mob influence. So your local knowledge isn't conclusive for the rest of Ukraine
I don't know why guys are so transfixed on scammers. Like this is something new under the sun.
Like discovering them is some rare treat.
Yes tje women expect something different from a western man and it has nothing to do with gifts and money. This prose is beginning to sound vaguely familiar.