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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Help with a visa? Author Post Fabio1582 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2006 10:45:08 PM   I am going to meet a girl in Russia. I am not going on a tour and waste a bunch of money. I think I found a good one but we will see. What are the steps I need to take? wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 10:01:55 AM   Fabio, I assume that you will be applying for a K1 (fiancee visa) US visa for her if things work out. The USCIS (formerly known as INS) requires that you visit her (at her home country or elsewhere) and submit evidence that you did so along with your application materials. Acquiring evidence during your trip that will prove you visited her is the only thing that you will have to get in your firts trip. Hence, have a camera with you and if you like the girl and see future with her, take a few pictures near monuments, well known attractions, or signs that have Russian letters, anything that would prove to the USCIS that you visited her. You will have to attach 4-5 pictures to your application, but make sure you take lots of pictures maybe a whole film to have your choice later. I had taken in my second trip over 100 pictures and had my attorney choose the ones to attach to my application. Show some affection in the pictures but not too much, not kissing her on the neck for example:) something like heads leaning towards each other, pass your arms around each other, a kiss wouldn't hurt either but nothing that might be construed as provocative. You could also bring some documents with you that she could fill out and sign to expedite the process, but it may be interpreted by the woman as if you had already made your mind. In my first trip, I had no camera or anything whatsoever, I was just going to see her for 4 days (an extension of a business trip to Europe). The second time, which was a month later, I went ther for almost 3 weeks and took the pictures and also had a full set of documents with me. It's up to you how you will do it. You can express send her documents afterwards in the mail. The pictures is the only thing that cannot be done through the mail. Also, make sure that you keep an archive of all you communication since it would be useful to submit this evidence to the USCIS as well, ie. records of phone bills that show the phone number, date and time (phone calls you made to her), emails, letters. You will also have to write a letter to immigration explaining why you want to marry this woman (it's called affidavit of something, I did it four years ago I forget). You may want to think fro time to time what you want to write in this letter. The rest is mostly bureaucracy, lots of papers to filled out and signed. I used an attorney, but you do not have to do so. The attorney will charge about $1,500 paid up front and will take care of everything (you will still have to collect the information). There are two parts in the process: (a) you get approved here in the U.S. and (b) she goes through an interview at the embassy in her country. Check out the following web site, it has good info: http://www.arctec.com/ you can also order a free start up kit, which will tell you all the steps in detail. You must educate yourself in the process especially if you decide not to hire an attorney. Best of luck! Fabio1582 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 5:11:31 PM   Thank you wtrav I will use this info later I hope. I want to go to Russia came you help? wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 6:33:11 PM   Oopss you meant your own visa to RUssia I guess, then ignore the above no need to get a K1 for yourself:) I have only been to Ukr, but bought a business visa to Russia once, it's very easy although costly. If I recall correctly, I bought it from www.gotorussia.com, they must have an 800 number. I believe business visa to Russia provides more flexibility and allows unlimited travel while tourist is cheaper, but it may not be if you travel a few times in a year. You have to compare costs and benefits. fiance.com might also be able to help, write to them at admin@fiance.com. Russia is a tad stricter in rules than Ukr, I believe you have to register with the authorities within 3 days. Good luck! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 7:03:50 PM   Gotta scratch my head and wonder about trav already giving advice for a fiance visa when a guy explains that he is first going to MEET a girl. (First he has to GET TO the country he is visiting you know). No rational person should even be THINKING of a fiance visa before he meets the girl face to face. OH but trav advocates "mail order brides", with today's technology "email brides". Just send a letter to a picture and a profile (with a few translated letters and three-way-phone conversations) and get out that fiance visa material right awa - before you've ever even met her in the flesh. Just one step away from ordering something from from an ad in National Inquirer or something. Best of luck Fabio - but I hope you have a backup plan to use if things DON'T work out. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 8:02:27 PM   (No rational person should even be THINKING of a fiance visa before he meets the girl face to face.) jetmba Member Send: 17.11.2006 7:14:54 To Philly. I'm guessing that you went on a tour with Anastasia. But I would be interested in fining if it was perhaps with AFA. I have to admit that I am a little turned off by what seems to be a singles bar atmosphere with Anastasia. When I went with European Connections it was entirely different. The Romance Social was much more formal. Each participant had a provided interpreter who was assigned for the evening. You generally found a comfortable table and then, having told the interpreter what you were looking ofr (in my case it was a woman 26 or younger, with good English speaking ability, and not having been married or having had children previously) sent her to bring back the qualified women from a group of four or five that you had pointed out. This was all done in a well lit room with some refreshments being served and a DJ playing music for those interested in dancing (exclusively women dancing with each other as the guys were all doing interviews). I would simply look around me, at 200 to 250 of the most beautiful women I had ever seen, and pick out three or four for my interpreter to "qualify" for me. She would then get up and go talk to the women and briefly ask them if they met my criteria. If they did she would bring them back to the table to sit and talk with me. I would tell them about myself, showing pictures or whatever (I gave them some postcards I brought along from my home city) and the interview would end with a Polaroid shot (we were each dvised to bring a Polaroid camera) of the two of us together. (2 shots actually, one for her and one for me.) jetmba Member Send: 17.11.2006 10:56:14 The Polaroid was for use in a fiance visa application. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2006 10:07:38 PM   Martin: I spoke to around 15 or 20 girls during the two nights that I attended Socials. I dated just two of them. But I took Polaroid shots of nearly all of them. Obviously I did not apply for a fiance visa for each of the girls that I took Polaroid photos of. In fact, Martin, in the same thread that you took the above quote out of, I go on to say "The pictures were simply taken to conclude the interview. They could very well be used as part of a fiance visa application and both the ladies involved and the gentlement generally discussed that. The photos also served as a reminder of the meeting and what the lady looked like much like the photo in an online profile. On standard Polaroid prints there is space underneath for jotting down phone number etc. " Proving once again that you either cannot comprehend an entire thought or you just love to take things out of context. I tend to think its the former. Before I applied for a fiance visa for my lady - I had, indeed, met her, spent many weeks with her and waited more than a year. Fabio1582 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 2:02:04 AM   actually she want to met in Prague now. I don't need a visa i checked a check (no pun) website.It is easier than a Russian Visa if it doesn't work out I'm off to Rome,London,Paris,Berlin wherever F-it. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 4:15:52 AM   Jet,seems like a few quotes are backfiring recently doesn't it??.......:)) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 5:29:19 AM   Martin is very desperate to find SOMETHING where I might have contradicted myself. And no doubt, while he is waiting breathlessly for hours (with time stamped constant requests, no less) for my response to his questions - he is combing the archives of the forum looking for something, anything, to show a contradiction. But since I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and AM consistent, he is completely unable to find a contradiction UNLESS he snips here and pastes there (three times in the above post alone) and COMPLETELY takes things out of context. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 5:55:47 AM   jetmba, You sad little individual, why would I need to comb the internet for something that I know doesn't exist? With regards to my age I have all the proof I need, a birth certificate and passport for starters, both of which state my year of birth as being 1958, and with regards to your claims that there is impormation out there to disprove that I am married, well that onus is very much on you to provide the evidence. Now crawl back in to gutter you worthless piece of sh1t. Fabio1582 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 7:37:38 AM   I guess I am laid back, so I say who cares if you know you are right don't let someone get the best of you. I you do they CONTROL YOU. Can we please get back to a mature adult disscussion? PLEASE? Any more real comments on a VISA? wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 8:17:02 AM   GladiatorUK and nasfan6, a few questions to you if I may: From what I know, you two found you wives through this introduction service by first writing an introduction letter to them. You provide support to a poster who bashes and ridicules all those who met their wives by means of an introduction service and hints to a new guy, Fabio, that such endevors end up in the cracks? ("Best of luck Fabio - but I hope you have a backup plan to use if things DON'T work out"). Is this the sort of encouragement that is ethical and appropriate to give to new guys? What is a person apparently driven by cumpulsive syndrome and complex of inferiority against all those who introduced themselves to women from the FSU through letter writing and subsequently married those women doing on a web site that is intended for the exact purpose of helping men meet women through letter writing?? isn't this person the definition of a serial spammer? why doesn;t he take his opinions, which he expresses in an imposing and oppressive manner, to the appropriate forum? doesn't AFA or European Connections have forums? if he's indeed here seeking information on socials, wouldn't it be more likely that he would find such information at the appropriate web sites instead of the fiance.com forum? how much support he's found for his methods and opinions anyway? then why he keeps posting the same drivel? are cumpulsive and obsessive too mild terms to describe the behavior of this individual? The statements, I quote: "mail order brides", "with today's technology email brides" do not reflect negative connotations on your wives as well (nasfan6 and GladiatorUK?) according to the poster, don't your women they fit the above definitions ? and you didn't take pictures of your then fiancee's (you nasfan??) I could copy and paste his recent drivel and insults about women who found their lifetime companion through letter writing ... how did your wives find theirs? gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 9:11:28 AM   wtrav: who posted your quotes above?.......certainly not me,and as for providing support to a poster who supposedly bashes and ridicules all....come on! Have you heard of the saying those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Whether or not I agree with either side,what really p*sses me off is the way both you and Martin choose to rubbish some people and then complain when the same thing is thrown back at you.Seeing as you know absolutely bothing about my or myself how you can fit either quote in my direction baffles me. For the record I have used neither introduction sites,romance socials or any of the "mail order" methods you quote above to meet my wife.So how you deduce that can reflect negatively (or otherwise) on my wife or myself I can only put down to some "strange" logic. Copy and paste seems to be a particular affliction with this forum.....I prefer common sense! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 9:27:33 AM   gladiator, Who did I 'rubbish' for a difference of opinion? I have my opinions of so called 'romance socials' and I have never made it a secret that I consider them to be 'cattle markets'. OK, if someone wants to argue such a point with me then a resolution would be to 'agree to differ' but when another defends his argument by telling me that I am 6 years older than I actually am and indeed I am not married to my beautiful wife that that is where I feel entitled to take someone to task on such outrageous and ludictrous outbursts and if that is what you refer to as 'rubbishing' then so be it, I have no apology(s) to make. This is nothing personal against you gladiator but if another makes a personal attack against myself then, yes, I am entitled to respond. I asked the individual to politely 'put up or shut up' a couple of days ago, he told me to wait, well during my waiting he has been the one 'rubbishing' me and, guess what, I'm still waiting for him to 'put up or shut up'! gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 11:32:47 AM   Martin there have numerous occasions on this forum over the years where a so-called difference of opinion has degenerated into a slanging match,and I'm sure you don't need me to copy and paste each one for you.And as much as you try to distance yourself from that you have been as guilty as anyone here....myself included. Don't you think that a little common sense and maturity would go a hell of lot further than name calling??? A forum is supposed to be an interchange of information,ideas,genral chit-chat,not a kids playground. God knows why the moderators allow this sort of sh*te to go on time after time,but I'm damn sure a lot of people coming here for whatever reason find it very very boring. I post when I feel I can help someone who needs it,as I'm in the fortunate situation of having found my partner.Hence I check in from time to time,but all I seem to see is drivel and idiots on an increasing scale. It's not supposed to be an ego trip here but sometimes it sure as hell seems like it! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 11:46:16 AM   gladiator, I couldn't agree with you more, as you say, in the past, you have been as guilty as anyone else. I would beg to differ regarding the difference, the relevance, between one person name calling and another making direct insults regarding one being 6 years older than one actually is blah. blah. blah. However, I do not believe that we are, or should be, dragging up history but indeed we are talking about an ongoing situation whereas we have the 'idiot' on the right claiming that the other is 54 years old and not married, and we have the the other 'idiot' on the left saying put your money where your mouth is sunshine and come up with some goods. Not that this is any of your concern gladiator, you did involve yourself in it however :). jetmba either needs to put his money where his mouth is or withdraw his, apparent but I know them to be for sure, lies and it's as simple as that, I shall then leave him alone. You are right regarding the moderators, what moderators? They claim to read most every post before allowing it to go public and just look at the shite that appears on this forum. Hello moderators, are your heads stuck up your asses again? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 11:48:22 AM   Another point is gladiator, if there is something on the internet saying that one is aged 6 years older than one actually is wouldn't you want to see it? I'm intrigued ..... gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 12:00:21 PM   to be quite honest about the age thing.......I couldn't be ars*d.If someone wants to think that I am older or younger than I actually am then good luck to them.I know the truth and thats all that counts. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 12:26:05 PM   But gladiator, some might say, you avoided answering the main point(s) :) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Help with a visa?
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