I met this Russian girl about a month ago on a dating site; very attractive girl, 5'7 bloned hair 27 years old. Russian girl seems very interstied in me-- even told her parents and friends about me. Every once in-a-while she sends me pictures of her, her home, resurants night outs, and while at work--- seems to be very honest.
She started working on the visa 3 days ago with an travel agency,paid the first part
of money for the visa and other documents,giving her a garantee everything will be in order. The visa will take 2 weeks to prepair as they claim. I was told by her that agency will get her the nessesary documents, order the flight tickets, and deliver to the airport where she will depart from; Moscow will be the airport.
Anything i can teach her on scams while shes working with her travel agency?? Anything i should be looking out for??
wilove,
Yawn, heard it all before, go to www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm and click on 'latest updates' and you can read it all before also.
Even if you do not pay for visa or tickets she will call you, sopposedly, from the airport to tell you that they will not let her on the plane unless you send $$$ cash by Western Union.
She started working on the visa 3 days ago with an travel agency,paid the first part
of money for the visa and other documents,giving her a garantee everything will be in order.
This is the key part of your story. Did she pay it or did you send money for this "First Part"?
If you paid then this is money lost and put yourself in the group that keeps this scamming bullshit running. Thanks for being the latest idiot!!!! If not then you are cool. good luck
Deano,
So often the scam goes alomg the lines that she can 'supposedly' pay for some of the travel, that could have been the first part she has claimed to pay, then she'll ask the guy for a thousand dollars or so, if he pays that then she'll supposedly get to the airport but they won't let her on the plane thus, at the last hour, she'll hit him for more money to be never heard of again.
The following is a copy of an email sent to me from a girl who I had apparently written to but I could find no evidence that I actually had sent her an email. I had sent out a few emails that I was travelling to the Ukraine and would be visiting Kiev and Odessa. This girl was from Russia and I had not from memory contacted anyone from Russia, however she decided we would meet and had apparently bought tickets.
Greetings my loved Ross. I did not know, that there are tickets more
cheaply, but this sum to me was told in firm in which I already began
to do documents. On it will leave about three days. And in embassy of
Ukraine to me have told, that I should them show, that I have money 40
euro per day if we shall be there 10 days I should show them 400 euro.
I do not know what for it it is necessary but if I shall not show them
money that they will not give me the visa. It is inconvenient for me
to ask you about it, but I do not have money more, I have already paid
to firm and consequently I ask you to help me with it. 400euro I shall
give these to you, this very day as I shall see you. Write to me the
answer, whether you can to me in it help? I hope, that you will
understand me, I am simple all salary have given for documents and
tickets. I very much wait for your answer. With love yours Olenka.
She emailed me she had bought tickets for 507 euro but needed to show 400 euro to the embassy to get visa.
I said I could get the tickets for half the price on the internet and asked to see the receipt and her passport.
I got a copy of the passport but not the receipt. After about 3 more letters wanting 400 euro I stopped corresponding.
Wow! you guys are great. To all memebers; guess what?? I have not sent her no money at all :)
Here is the email i got from her today.
"Hi sweetheart, How are you, how was your day? I thinking about you all
day long today, and can't wait for the day of our meeting. I need to
tell you something serious. William, I was in the agency again today
and I talked to the payment of all my trip and how much it will
totally cost for me. Honey, as my visa will be ready in 2 weeks and
not like usual in 2 - 2.5 monthes, yesterday I had to pay 400 USD for
it. Today, travel agent told me that I will have to pay about 1520 US
dollars more for the all trip package, it will be my double ticket,
insurance and road to the airport in moscow. Honey, I really did not
think that it would be so much and it seems to me that I will not have
enough to pay for all, I have some money and will try to take
something from my parents, I think it will be about 400 US dollars, I
am very shy about this but all I have to do is ask you, if you will be
able to help me with the rest of the money. William, I don't know what
you will answer me, but I just hope you tell me the truth. You know
how I wish you this day and how this is serious and important for me,
and I don't want that the problem because of money will stop this for
us, but I also understand that sometime we can't control our life.
Well, darling, I really hope that I don't get you into some troubles,
I just want to tell you over ad over, that I need you and very much
want to see you soon. Write me back please and have a good night, I
hope to see you in my night dream today.
I don't know how your story started ...
Many people here will say it is a scam ... the difference s that you already met her before ... what is weird for me is that she paid a certain amount without know the whole price of the "package" ... I don't know the prices from US to Russia ... but it is very expensive my personal point of view .... I would like to suggest to take the "problem" the other way around ... the aim is for you two to see each other ... why don't yuo go and met her again in Russia ... it is not impossible that it is very expensive when the tickets are more expensive in Russia ... maybe if you by the tickets from US, i will be less expensive ... maybe half of the price
may people believed in women who finally betrayed them ...
you saw her once, was it enough for you to trust her blindly?
This is what suggest you ... just an idea ... check if you can get 4 tickts in reasonable price without exceeding the amount she specified ... 1st ticket for you to go to Russia
2nd and 3rrd for you and she to come to us (considering that she already have her visa valid)
the 4th for her if she decides t ocom back to Russia once she has finished her stay ...
Anyway, whatever your decision is, I wish good luck in this nasty world where iti s difficult to find trust worthy people?
"Anything I can teach her on scams while she is working with her travel agency?" Yea!!!
Wilove....send her the most sensual loving story on how your life together will be so special having a strong
family and spend all your time traveling the world. How you are going to send her the money she needs and some
to pay back her family with a nice bonus. It will come ( western union comes to mind) on ______ day.
Just send her made up numbers( western union are 10 numbers) and do this for several days. I'm sure the guys here
will cheer you on. We have all in some way have been used and abused
OMG. That is a classic scam letter!! I don't know why anyone, any guy anywhere on the world would believe that kind of shit. It is so obvious. And I wish girls would stop talking about travel agents and their ability to do everything for them including getting their visas. Do they in fact get the girls' visas for them? I would have thought they would have to go to the USA or UK embassy to the consulate section in Kiev to get one. No?
I am getting fed up of listening about travel agents visas.
I did that to a couple or girls Beemer. First they would write me saying Deano there seems to be a problem with the Wu numbers you gave me. Are they correct?Then I would send it again one digit off from the first and let them know I found the mistake. The next letter was F. U! Deano! LOL! They finally guessed I was Fing with them. So, I got them to make two trips to the WU kiosk in the cold Ukraine winter. One for the good guys!!!
Europeen needs to get out more, wilove states that he met her on a dating site thus he didn't meet her in person and this scenario is a classic scam that has been around for years.
I asked yesterday for her home address and place shes from in russia.. she did'not answer.
Here is her letter.. today. The funny thing is that she wanted me to go over to her place and i said no. I told her to come over to my place which we can have a better time.
"Hi love mine William. I believe, that is perfect Let's lead that time,
which we shall be together. I with the large impatience I wait, when
will pass days, which divide our meeting. But it Very pleasant
expectation, and it gives rise at me many different imaginations.
Lovely, now I constantly practise in English, that we could It is
better to understand each other.Loved I already have concluded the
contract with agency, I cannot refuse these tickets, I have already
paid 400 US dollars, I cannot find the big sum, at me hope only on
you. If you really want that I have arrived, you should think that to
us to do. I shall call to you tomorrow, I very much want to hear your
voice and to speak with you, it will be the big support. Favourite, I
always very wait for your letters, I love you. kiss you.
Elvira"
wilove,
Just a hunch, is she from Cheboksary, Kazan, Yoshkar Ola or around that area of Russia?
You need to ask her from which city she needs to collect your Western Union transfer of USD1520 from, you will need her full name, full address and tell her that you local WU office are asking for a copy of her passport.
Then you might just send her a phoney 8 digit WU transfer number :)
"Hi love mine William. I believe, that is perfect Let's lead that time,
which we shall be together. I with the large impatience I wait, when
will pass days, which divide our meeting. But it Very pleasant
expectation, and it gives rise at me many different imaginations.
Lovely, now I constantly practise in English, that we could It is
better to understand each other.Loved I already have concluded the
contract with agency, I cannot refuse these tickets, I have already
paid 400 US dollars, I cannot find the big sum, at me hope only on
you. If you really want that I have arrived, you should think that to
us to do. I shall call to you tomorrow, I very much want to hear your
voice and to speak with you, it will be the big support. Favourite, I
always very wait for your letters, I love you. kiss you.
Elvira "