RUSSIA
They buy short memberships on friendship/ dating websites, and bombard every western male with love letters, in hopes of receiving money wires.
UKRAINE
Ladies agree to your visit, agency makes money off your auto rides, interpreters and furnished apartment rentals, and your "beloved" receives her cut. In some cases, ladies disappear right after you rent the apartment.
MOLDOVIA
Restaurants where menus show low main course prices, but bills add to $40 due to pricey extras and add ons.
Discos, such as Kasanova and Bacardi, have only men; and discos, such as City, where entry may be only $3 and soda may be only $2, but wait until you're hit with a "table charge", and they'll ask to take your cell phone if you didn't come in with enough cash.
ROMANIA
Cab rides where meters turns as fast as the tires.
A friendly guy on street starts walking and talking with you, you both are confronted just a few steps later by another man, who flashes a police badge, demands to see your money since you are with a known counterfitter, declares it counterfit, "arrests" the other man, and takes him away with your money.
BULGARIA
Luggage thefts, often arranged by hostels, such as hostel Mariot, or cheap hotels.
If you are with a suitcase, good luck getting a cab charging by meter.
TURKEY
A friendly guy on street talks you into visiting cheap bars with Romanian girls or expensive bars with Ukranian girls, where girls box you in your booth, and champaign keeps coming, until the bill adds to $800.
USA
Against all odds, you do find love abroad, US consular official denies her a fiancee visa, writing alreday met legal ground(s) on paper, while telling her personal, non-legal reasons verbally.
AJ,
thanks for the list. In fact, a Ukrainian girl I am going to meet in February has wholeheartedly suggested to me not to book the apartment by myself, but through her agency...
How many thousands different dishonest behaviours, if not plain scams, should one beware of?
AJ,
Thanks a lot once again. I am in Kiev. Three guys (not just two), attempted to perpetrate kinda ROMANIA scam. I was chosen as the victim. When the 3rd guy appeared from nowhere flashing his fake police badge, I suddenly remembered your post and ran away mixing with the crowd. Those three guys put up an impressively complex comedy. I would have difficulties explaining every detail in English. Very dangerous professional scammers. BEWARE, guys!!!
While walking, 1st guy lets his wallet drop on the floor from his bag. You are walking behind and pick it up. 2nd guy (who seems to be unrelated to 1st guy) immediately reaches you from behind and invites you to give wallet back to 1st guy. 1st guy thanks a lot but after a while complains that he actually had 2 wallets in his bag before the "accident", suggesting 2nd wallet was stolen. 3rd guy materializes and flashes his badge. Luckily, I do not know the following.
Dial up phone cards that don't work even for local calls.
Hotels that charge by the day, so if you don't check out before midnight the same day, expect to pay for another day when checking out!!!
ROMANIA
Cab scams. A wrong cab from train station to bus station can cost you 40 Euros. Nearly all cabs parked at or near train station are wrong cabs. You have to call in the right cab.
I made one trip to Russia, 2 to Ukraine and one to Latvia and never experienced anything bad. However I am not in any hurry to go back. There is no point there is nothing out there. Even my last girl is so glad that she left and went to England. The entire FSU is a wasteland. A run down dump. Houses that anywhere else would be torched, pavements that had a cement mix of 1 part to 100 parts sand.... It is no wonder that the FSU 'bride' thing is doing so well.
It has to be sad thought hat anywhere you go in the world you can run into a scam including London cab drivers and the old wallet dropping routine.
Ok I have to stop visiting this forum because it is depressing seing so many lemmings marching off the cliff into the sea. For God's sake catch a plane to Thailand.
izifaddag,
why this know-it-all attitude? The wallet dropping may be an "old routine", but I never heard of it. You could try to make your knowledge useful to the other guys of the forum, instead of feeling sorry for us the poor lemmings. Actually, I can hardly understand why you are in this forum at all.
Personally, I haven't experienced them all. I've never been to Ukraine, for example. But this is what I gather from forum on this website.
In Turkey, I did get into the same situation, but luckily I had read about it and had less than $100 on me. They asked for my watch, but I had deliberately left it at hotel.
In Romania, I have run into the counterfit scam, but when I showed the money, I held on to it hard when I showed it, and didn't lose a penny. But I have been ripped off by cabs.
So, I would say that they biggest scam I have personally faced is the one under USA.
"Actually, I can hardly understand why you are in this forum at all."
Actually I think you are 100% correct.
Not sure if the passport swipe was aimed at me or not but I am not going to become embroiled in another stupid internet pissing contest because a couple or 3 people on here want to show off their 'knowledge' and vie for king of the forum. Suffice to say that I completely agree with everything that viva has said.
The problems with bring a foreign bride back to the USA are massive. I am not focusing on FSU but anywhere. Some exceptions like a Hispanic lady coming to a part of the USA that is basically already part of Latin America.
So off you all go and spend your money on a fruitless search for that 1% chance that you'll get lucky. Interesting that all these successful marriages stll ned to be on this forum dispensing wisdom to the masses. Why aren't you just getting on with your lives?
Anyway I/O and viva can duke it out. Amazing that the forum administrators have allowed this Australian lout to attack and insult him over and over again without deleting any of his posts. Viva hasn'tt insulted him once. Yet he has been called simple and dim and a loser and goodness knows what else. Proves how slanted and twisted this forum is and just how obnoxious 9 out of 10 most Australians are. Ooohhh was that racist?
Maybe they should take my passport away.
Adios muchahos tengo cosas mucho mas importante que este forum.
Have fun. Now where was that delete button.
Izi
You're going to try to convince me that Thailand is better? Please I've been there done that. It is a shit hole also. Along with many places in the PI. Buddy I think you cheese has slid off your cracker.
First of all, certain lemmings here have done ok thank you!
As to Russia, 6 years ago I once wired $100 to a girl in Kazan, who used the money for better photos to post her profile with another better dating website.
Despite the scams, Bucharest's been my most favored destination, because I'm always in luck there. There are a lot of NORMAL discos there where men to women ratio is about the same. I was bringing a new girl to my hotel room at least every weekend night. But go a little further up (Moldovia/Ukraine/Russia), and girls feel that they need to be first paid in gifts or money before they sleep with you.
I had an unpleasant and potentially dangerous experience with scam artists in the streets of Kiev, city centre. I described this experience in the forum. I did it because I wanted to show off my knowledge and become the king of the forum. I am waiting for the crown to be delivered to my home address :-)
I have no doubt V and I will deliver it personally too you on their next little jaunt across to visit their lovely little Phucapinos:-) Hope they take a machetti with them, sometimes ya gotta clear the jungle a bit before you find a road in. But whatta ya expect if you drag 'em out of the pattys. LOL. Gaaaaaaaaawd what a coupla sad sacks.
BTW iz ring the bells and post a thread when you have your first independent thought. It'll be worth ignoring. :-)
I had a very dangerous experience in Riga Latvia which I fully admit was mostly my own fault. I was drinking, alone (my date had to work ealy the next morning and had gone home) in Old Town. I thought it was particularly safe as I had been assured so. Besides there were police cars parked and keeping vigilant watchful eye all over the area (or so I thought).
I had too much vodka to drink and proceded to follow a "taxi driver" to his taxi some distance away. (Cars are not allowed to drive on the ancient streets in the area, so that his taxi was parked some distance away was completely credible.) I should have become suspicious when we walked own a dark alley but my state of inebriation prevented it. His subsequent pummeling of my head with his fists, quickly brought me to my senses and then nearly knocked me back out of them.
While I was on the ground fending against kicks to my head - it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to offer the money in my wallet to get him to stop. I did - and he accepted the 60 Lats (roughly $120), ripping my wallet in half in the process. (You see I firmly held on to the part containing my credit and other cards which I shouldn't have been carrying in the first place.) He did get one credit card (which I easily cancelled) and my drivers license and my PADI scuba diving card(!) but I managed to retain about six other credit cards and ID cards by holding firm. He also did not get the $1,300 I had in a flesh colored money belt inside my pants.
He hastly retreated after ripping away half my wallet and I thought it wise to do likewise - in the other direction of course. I went back to the disco where I had been and about six bouncers went out looking for the assailant, to no avail.
The police were called and I subsequently discovered that each of those many plice cars in the area had a single police officer inside - and each one was asleep in the back seat of his cruiser.
A translator was brought (we traveled to his house and woke him up) and a statement was taken - and a ploice report was offically generated. When translated later I found that the police report said that I had been dancing at the disco and left when I discoverd that I must have dropped my wallet or had a pickpocket !?!?!?!?!!!
THAT was how the city of Riga claimed that there was nearly no crime in the Old Town area, I guess. Just a lot of people who unexplainably "drop their wallets". While having strange kick marks on their heads.....
Regarding scams by the way:
For my first trip to Moldova - I intended to rent an apartment through an agent. I even found one on the street where my lady lived. I looked at all of the pictures of the various rooms (nicely pictured in the internet ad) was was all set to pay the considerable downpayment when I happily told my lady.
She asked for the address of the building so that she could check it out for herself and later informed me that there was no apartment building at that particular address. (I beleive there was a school of some sort). I cancelled the deal of course.
We later found a great room at a very inexpensive private hotel. But on visiting, son-of-a-gun if there was no apartment building at all where this apartment was supposed to be located.
Also in Moldova, as in MOST of the FSU, you pay for everything that they set on the table. There IS no such thing as "complementary bread" or anything else like that. Get that western idea out of your head before you go there. Doesn't matter, if you eat it or not or if you requested it. If its there, they expect that you will pay for it. So if you don't want it, speak up when they bring it, or hold your peace.
Still though, you mention $40 DOLLARS for add-ons?!?!?! I ate at some VERY nice restaurants and only once or twice paid $40 for a whole MEAL for THREE (her mother often came along).
The only place I can think of where $40 might have been added on would hvae been the Japanese Steak House in Sun City - that's the most expensive restaurant I found and one I avoided.