I'm very interested to hear responses from fellow Americans on this subject. I'm sure some of you have been to the FSU more than once. What makes you continue to go back? Tell me about you experiences with American women in communicating, dating, marriage, etc. Why are you giving up or not considering American women? I want to see how your responses match up with my views and experiences. I would appreciate it very much. Thanks.
From your previous post, I think your idea of a FSU girl doing all the work, won't work. These girls get
plenty of attention from me and plenty of other guys...what are YOU going to do to get their attention? It is a diificult process dealing with someones emotions. My idea is to see some of the women that you feel might be good posibilities and go visit them. But on your trip take in the sities ,see the people, turn this trip into more than just meeting a girl cause if it don't work out, that tail will be firmly pressed between the legs. Think more of trip than the women. I do feel eventually over time it can overwhelm somebody and like most things you go on and do something else. It is what brought you here in the first place...I am sure everybody started at home looking for
a girl and did not find one...it is constantly evolving...just like life. If I had my choice it would be an American women but it just hasn't worked out...this is just another avenue to find what I want. Who knows maybe I'll be in the Far East next year or my girl will turn up next month at the local market. My philosophy in life is make the best of any situation that arises. I'm going back on my second tour next month. Remember hope for the best and expect the worst.
My grandparents were from Russia and my parents were born in a White Russian exile community in Belgrade, Yugoslavia. I was born in the United States. Out of ethnic pride, they all encouraged me and my brothers to marry inside the community.
The pressure is tremendous. So far, two of my brothers have taken the bait and have been successfully married for many years. I also have cousins and friends who have also gone to Russia and have brought home spouses.
American women are bitter twisted loud mouthed materialistic. they want it all. even when they are divorcing and they receive %75 of your goods they still want the remainder as well.
Euro, unless you lock them up in a closet, they will become Americanized. Of course, they'll still cook your meals, clean the house, wash your clothes and maintain their figures. But I know many American women that also do those things.
Euro, you're quite correct, but I'm afraid this adventure has become like searching for a needle in a haystack. DavidUSA wrote in another post that he's been at this for 6 years. VERY discouraging indeed.
Its different for everyone. A slim margin are successful right away, some fail the first time, kick the dust off and try again- and again if need be. Of course then there are the ones that fail miserably and are usually the ones that have nothing good to say.
After starting this journey 3 years ago, I will be married in April
This is an interesting thread. This is something I have been thinking about a lot these past months. I have been to Ukraine once and Russia once. My trip to Ukraine was great. She was great. Later I found out she was a gold digger. But I did not dwell on it because my trip was fantastic. The second trip was a good trip also. She decided not to relocate to the US because her mother became ill and she wanted to stay until her mother recovered. We debated for a while but decided that it was not meant to be for us.
So I swore off FSU women. I actually started dating an American woman. She was cute, had a good job, did not need me for money. I just broke up with her. Why? Because I kept thinking about the women in the FSU.
Why would I do this when I already had a girlfriend?
Maybe it is the beauty of the FSU women? Why they take care of themselves and would not be caught dead outside before they were ready to be seen. My American girlfriend would dress up in sweats when we went out. Maybe it is the fact that they cook very good meals? My American girlfriend expected me to take her out all the time. Maybe it is the accent? I really like hearing the Russian language and love it when a woman speaks English with a Russian Accent. There is something sensuous about it. Maybe it is the fact that both women I met were very affectionate with me? Yes, they were conservative and usually did not initiate intimacy but once started watch out!
Maybe it is the fact that I felt like a king when I was with them? And I wanted them to feel special when they were with me? Maybe it is a combination of a lot of things. But now I am back for round three. I have been corresponding with some women from FSU again in this site and one other. I plan on another trip to FSU in April. I am already looking at Expedia and the other sites for airline fares. Either I do not learn from my other mistakes or my heart belongs to an lady in the FSU. I just need to find her.
Enjoyed your post. I look at these trips to Ukraine and Russia as seeing a new culture as much as meeting a girl.
Granted,I would see this new culture more because of the women. I think these women are a little more mature in their thinking than their american counterparts. There is also some novelty in seeing something different. These girls give you attention and hopefully it is for the right reason. Without hopes and dreams there is no living life, I like the energy I get talking with these girls and think, maybe this is the one that turns your heart around. I read the DavidUSA post, 6 years is a long time and I don't know his pitfalls, I have to think maybe I am doing something different, that I won't be doing this for such a long time. I'm on round 2 and look forward to many rounds.
You are in states, right. I've got a couple good sites for travel if you are interested. You can reach me at alberts18@sbcglobal.net. Let the next round begin!!!
Just a note: I'm a bad as picked on girl, gota binding prenup and thats that. I'm also 26, own a supplement company and run a mile in near olympic time.... but I came here looking for a woman who wanted the guy and not the money. Frankly, a few of my friends already took up some girls from poltava like I did. I hope toopen the flood gates for all the good, attractive and decent young guys to prove we got 1 up even if the guy has a million more than me. I have lots fo Ukrainian friends in cali. Everyone supports us and we cosnider it a war. I won so have my friends. No girl wants an old man and if she does all you did was get a live in prostitute. I wonder what the old guy will do when they girls learn they don't have to settle eh?
oh and by the way.. took me 8 months writing and a 2 month trip (6 months ago and I am in Poltava). Natali is a drop dead beautiful woman and she's smart also. There is a reason why some guys look 5 years and don't find some one... thats because guys like me come along. :)
also all my friends have done teh same thing. This has nothing to do with chance and everything to do with you and your motivations. I intedn to give to this country that has raisd my wife. Most guys just wanna take.
Sometimes I wonder if past forum idiots come back under different names. This is striking similar to a gifted Idiot that used to post here. Yep you won pal, I just want to thank you for sharing. So now take you leftwife and rightwife home and leave the old men here to your table scraps. If you could run the mile in near record time I don't think you would be here popping off your mouth. Unless that was the womens record.
Hey weren't your Toads Cali girl in drag?
Very interesting thread. Why are some of us here ? For me, I spent many years building a successful career and business. It wasn't until I was in my mid-30s before I started to be seriously interested in perhaps marrying and having a family. I was too busy in those earlier years for much more than weekend flings. As a matured into my early 40s, although I was very willing to start a family, it became apparent to me that the notion of many American women of child bearing age, starting a family with a man in his 40s, was almost unthinkable. God forbid American women should consider a man more than 5 years her senior.
Over the years though, I did manage a good amount of leisure travel around the world to places where the cultural norms are decidedly different than in the US. It isn't unusual for a woman in her mid-30s in some cultures to consider starting a family with a man in his late 40s. That's why I'm here. I haven't given up on the dream. I may just have to look beyond the borders of the next town over.