Thanks again for everyone's help since I have been here. This noob appreciates it. As you may recall, in my first post I mentioned a guy at the gym talking about a Russian Dating site where you can meet ladies here in the US. I went to the site and it seems legit. They are called www.RussianEngagement.com Apparently they set up a social event in San Francisco where only Russian women are in attendence. I wrote them an email and they responded promptly to some of my questions. This sounds pretty cool and I wonder if anyone here has ever been to anything like this. If anyone has any feedback I'd appreciate it. It costs only $1K which seems pretty reasonable. I just wonder the quality of the girls. Are there a lot of Russians in SF? I'll do some more research other places and let you all know if I find out any more. Thanks again for everyone's help.
johnwill: I don't know all the ins and outs of this planned event. My understanding from others I have spoken to is that they havn't actually run one of these yet and it is still in the planning. I suggest to you if this is correct, a couple of things.
1) It will be mainly college age and younger girls. (Maybe that suits, maybe not)
2) This being so, many will be near the end of their visa term. Maybe, just maybe another form of visa would be timely? :-) Hint hint before someone hits you with the "Clue Bat".
3) Anyone arranging anything with a price is trying to turn a profit, thus the main interest of the organiser is their own hip pocket.
All you are going to get out of this is a little exposure to a few eastern girls who don't fit the norm in their home country. They are most likely children of wealthy families, how else can they be in USA? If you are looking at it as a more economic way to start than going for a trip, the last thing you need to get hooked up with is some wealthy families spoiled brat.......go figure........Clue bat comes next.
Thanks for the advice I/O. It just interests me because I am new to the Russian theme and thought I can't go wrong at least checking into it. I have been corresponding a bit with someone from the site and I will bring up those points. I thought I would ask:
1) What kind of visa's are most of these ladies on? Student? Religious? Work?
2) What is the age range of the ladies?
3) I understand $1000 includes the social and overnight lodging. Why so cheap?
A little research led me to:
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Obviously not a shortage of Russian women in San Francisco. I don't live far. Maybe I should just go there myself and see what the women are like first. Anyway, I'll let you all know what I fing out.
Thanks for the scoop. I like the link they have, taking you to the Moscow Embassy website and the visa app stuff. A not-so-subtle way of saying, :Try our party, there's a lot less BS." I'll admit, johnwill, I'm actually inclined to check them out...hell, what's another $1000 at this point!
Well, I went ahead and signed up for the event in May in San Francisco. After lengthy emails and one telephone conversation, I feel pretty convinced that it may be a successful opportunity to meet a nice Russian lady. To answer some of my concerns:
-Women are on mostly work and religious visas. And also student visas.
-Women are between ages 23-35. I expressed concern about meeting a "college age" girl and that I am in my late 30's and am more interested in a lady that is within 10 years of my age. He said there are several women that meet that criteria.
-Concerning visa status. He stated that the only check they do is that they are here on legal visa. I expressed my concern that maybe many of the girls are nearing the end of their visa and could be looking for a way to extend (hint, marriage). In a very forthright manner he said "And the girls that you would meet in Russia that have NEVER been to America would be a less risk?" I thought that was a good point.
-As far as the $1K price tag for the event and lodging, he said he expects that will be raised as demand for future events goes up as well.
So, I figure since this is a Russian themed event with all Russian ladies then it will at least give me a feel for the culture. If I like it and don't meet a lady that I would marry I think it will better prep me for a trip that I ultimately will take. And if anyone else goes, let me know. It would be cool to meet some of you all there beforehand and go out for a drink.
You guys all seem very sceptical, what's the harm in Russian women from families that are better off than most in Russia? They've seen a bit of the American culture, have most probably seen a bit of the world, what better preparation would they need to adjust to any big move? And really? you think they'd be more spoilt than your average western women? I imagine life is very different over there and they may appreciate the differences here.
Hey johnwill, I bit the bullet. Dropped them my $1000, and I'm off to San Francisco in May. Have to say, I'm kinda excited. Thanks for the rec (and out of curiosity, What day are you getting in?)
So a russian agency www.RussianEngage.com Have set up a social event in San Francisco????????
are they aware that they are trying to recruit in the Homosexual capital of america?
I did a K1 visa with a very lovely young woman from Ukraine. She came to my city, and we lived together for 3 months.
As she was an attractive young woman, she very frequently got asked out while here. She started dropping the ‘boyfriend’ word in conversations with people at her school and language classes to convey the idea that she wasn’t looking for someone. “Oh, yes—the RedRoom. I know this club. I go there sometimes with my boyfriend.” :)
She was in a committed relationship, but if she hadn’t been, she would literally have had dozens of potential suitors to chose from, all of whom were coming to her and inviting her out.
( Hee—this is exactly why Ukraine women can’t get tourist visas! People are asking them to marry them before they get out of the airport! :) )
This all makes me very curious about this social. I wonder if there will be women there that are wonderful and beautiful. It seems that it would be very easy for a beautiful woman here to find a good partner, without going to a social. It seems to me that if they are beautiful and wonderful, people come to them and ask them out very frequently.
I’m in no way being critical of the California social. I’m interested in it! I’m just surprised, because it seems so easy for an attractive woman to find partners here.
The cost of the event seems very high to me. I’ve been to Ukraine 4 times, and Russia once, and attended a half-dozen socials. To me, the California social only seems cheap when compared to buying an international airline ticket, etc.
Do you know these SpeedDating events we have in most cities now? Like DateSwitch events, where there are 20 women and 20 men, and you rotate every 5 minutes? Those events in my city cost $35.00.
So, a $1,000 dollar event doesn’t seem inexpensive!
Even in Ukraine, a stand-alone social from A Foreign Affair is only about $350— less if you attend more than one. This is social only, not the full tour. (Of course, our expenses to get to that social are so much higher. But, the actual social event is much, much less expensive than the $1,000 event offered in San Francisco. I wonder why it is so much? It is cheaper than flying to Donetsk or Kharkiv, but I wonder how the $1,000 price is cost-justified? I’m just wondering.)
Please do write back about your experience! I am very interested in learning about the event, and how many men there were, how many women—and most importantly if you found the women in attendance to be wonderful and beautiful!
Hey johnwill and xopowo, can you get in touch with me about social in SF, I would like to get more info from you guys. I maybe interested. alberts18@sbcglobal.net Thanks!!
Domestic Russian Dating-Interesting..... LoL, thats funny. A social in America, where the men outnumber the women 10 to one. Do you really think a Russian woman is going to have a hard time finding a man that they need to attend a social in America? Are you really serious? Sounds like someone has thought of a idea to suck a grand out of every poor sap that is either to lazy, scared or cheap to get on a jet and fly over there.
Nasfan, you asked about how marriage works with another visa besides a K1. Do you mean, how does it work when a woman is in America on a different type of visa, and then chooses to become married here?
If so, I can speak to that a little. My closest friend Patricia came from Brazil on a tourist visa. She ended up getting married here-- and it was a simple matter of adjusting her status.
There are still a lot of steps to go through after that-- she eventually got her green card, and then her full citizenship, after a number of years. But, as far as getting married to someone that is here on a student or tourist visa, and staying here legally, it is 'easy.' You just adjust status.
If the girl is here on a K1 that SOMEBODY ELSE sponsored her for--oooooo. I've heard that can be REALY tricky!
As far as the American socials—I’ve been thinking about this, and I can see how they might work. I mentioned before that I sponsored a girl from Ukraine for a tourist visa (the best friend of my girlfriend.) She came to America and would have been interested in an American social while she was here. I can promise you that! She would have LOVED to become engaged or married while she was here!!!
She was single and pretty, and she did have men come and talk to her, just in cafes and such. But....she didn't speak English. (So, the guys would TRY to talk to her....) And, she was only going to be here a short time.
So, if there was an American social when she was here, she would have gone. Nice girl, pretty, single, on a tourist visa, interested in meeting a husband.
But, the circumstances were such that it would be hard for her to meet a man-- because of the language barrier. Also, most of the guys that would walk up to her at Starbucks weren't necessarily looking for marriage. You know?
At least at the American social, the guys going know that this is about marriage. I think it could be a much more direct path to starting a marriage than for a girl to simply start dating here. My friend might have found a good husband at an American social—-someone ready to get married—-much faster than she would have found one at clubs or Starbucks.
And, ‘much faster’ counts when the visa clock is ticking!