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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Mailing a parcel to Ukraine Author Post kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 7:27:52 AM   I suppose this is by no means a new subject. Anyway, I promised the girl I recently met in Ukraine that I would send her a few CD's she cannot find in her city. Do you recommend to use ordinary mail for that? How long can be expected to take for the delivery? Any further advice? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 7:38:02 AM   I would suggest DHL but expect the package to be held up in Kiev whilst customs inspect it and then she will be required to pay quite a significant import tax ..... if she gets them at all :) kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 8:03:34 AM   Thanks for your advice. I will tell the girl about these possible inconveniences beforehand. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 8:33:15 AM   KA, If you send via a postman the chances of it reaching it's destination are minimal and if/when it becomes lost nobody will accept the blame. If you send it via a courier you can track it online. Not so long ago I was asked to send some soccer stuff to Ukraine, from the soccer website I was given a choice of UPS or DHL, I chose UPS because they were cheaper than DHL but, with hindsight, I would speculate that UPS can do it cheaper because they're saving money on not paying the required bribes to the Ukrainian authorities. Well the shipment was held up in Kiev for more than a week, they were demanding all sorts of paperwork and money, and it was only after I cancelled the shipment that the Ukrainians realised that they weren't going to get their bribes, or 'their' soccer stuff that they had taken a fancy to, and they released it but the recipient still needed to pay import taxes. I would say that to try to send something to Ukraine is more trouble than it's worth, I take it in my suitcase these days! kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 8:40:30 AM   Martin, thanks again! You are a mine of information :-) chrisc4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 12:32:46 PM   Send they via the sign on delvery service never had any problems either 2 or from UK I also beleve that small parcels have no import dutys anymore up to 2 KG and about $100, kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 3:10:34 PM   So, as my parcel is going to be less than 2 kg and less than $ 100, the girl should not expect to be charged with any import duty, thanks for the info. Sorry, but I am not sure I understand this: "via the sign on delivery service". I mean, I understand what it literally means but what is it, in practice? DHL or what? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 4:16:51 PM   check if you have EMS - express mail service. it si global. it is cheaper than DHL and FEDEX, but the same quality. we have it in Russia and USA, I am not sure about Italy. kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 4:25:16 PM   Thanks, Olga. I have just checked through the Internet. Yes, we have EMS here as well. chrisc4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 5:37:10 PM   I just sent some documents from Ukraine to UK and it was $4, In the past from the UK it was slightly more expensive, it will cost you more for CD's as it goes on the weight, but last time we used dhl it cost $40 for a few documents ! jonny1973 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2007 9:40:18 PM   Hi Arthur: I regularly ship small packages from the USA to Ukraine— I would estimate about 2 or 3 dozen packages, all told. These are always small parcels of about 1-4 pounds. When sending packages, about 85% of them arrive successfully. So, some get lost, but not nearly as many as I might have expected. In Ukraine , I’ve shipped to Mariupol, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Nikolaev, and Kherson. I have also shipped to St. Petersburg with no problem. When just sending photos, or something easily replaced, it seems fastest and easiest to send by regular U.S. Postal Service. No insurance, no tracking—and it is only a couple of bucks to send it. If the package doesn’t get there—it is easy to print the photos again, and send again. If the package is over 1 pound, but under 4 pounds, you’ll need the small customs form (green and white, form PS 2976.) If it is over 4 pounds, you’ll need the big white customs form (2976-A.) The post office says this service, Air Letter Post, takes 7-10 days. I regularly had letters and small envelopes get to Dnepropetrovsk from the East Coast of the USA in that time frame—about 8-9 days. But, this is just the plain, no-insurance method. For cute little gifts – cd’s, chocolates—I send by U.S. Registered mail. It is the safest, most secure way the for the public, government postal system. The package has an audit trail. For every single person that takes possession of the package, there is a log of who got it. When that person passes it off, the next person becomes responsible for it. So, if the package disappears, and you file a claim, they go person by person to see who last had it—and that person has to answer for the package disappearing. To actually file a claim is a pain—but the fact that there is this procedure seems to make packages disappear less frequently. Also, with registered mail, the package is under lock-and-key all the time. Even at your local post office, after they accept it at the counter, they take it and put it in a little locked cabinet. In the USA, you can insure Registered packages for up to $25,000. BUT—shipping to Ukraine the maximum insurance amount is $44.86. SO—when using registered I never declare a value more (or less) than about $45.00. I declare $45.00 for the value, and insure it for the maximum-- $44.86. I didn’t see any reason to declare a value higher than it could be insured for. The fee for registered mail, above the normal postage, with the maximum insurance coverage is $7.90. With registered mail, all seams on the package have to be sealed with paper tape. They put a postmark all around, marking on the paper, and they won’t accept plastic tape, as the postmark can be wiped off. So, it has to be sealed with paper tape. This is to make the package more secure. I have experience this service taking about 20 days. (The post office says 7-10—but I have never had a registered package get there this fast.) If the things you are sending are very important, I would recommend FedEx (if you are sending documents for your partner to take to the Embassy, etc.). At least the documents can be tracked, and you have someone (FedEx USA ) to call and ask where the package is. But, it is rather expensive (about $100, for some very light-weight documents) and also not particularly fast, considering we usually think of FedEx as a very fast (or overnight) carrier. To small cities in Ukraine it takes about 10 days. So, for the small gifts you are sending in this particular parcel, it might not be worth the cost I had to FedEx documents, and when they were long in coming, I got someone on the phone in USA that communicated with the Kyiv FedEx office, and then they got back with me saying they had left Kyiv and were on their way to Dnepropetrovsk. For your parcel, I would recommend Registered mail. You can’t really track it, but it is a reasonably safe way to send things. Every person in the custody chain of the package, from you all the way to the recipient, a log is kept. (You can supposedly check it online, but all you will ever get is that the package was received at the counter in the city you shipped it from—they never have deliver information, even when the package does make it there.) Some recent shipping costs (including Registered Mail fee, and $44.86 insurance), to Dnepropetrovsk: 15.50 ounces: $17.55 2 pounds, 4.3 ounces: $28.00 2 pounds, 5.2 ounces $28.00 2 pounds, 5.7 ounces $28.00 3 pounds, 9.3 ounces: $37.10 By the way, is this all worth it? I REALLY think it is. E-mail is not nearly as ‘real’ as getting something in the mail-- even a postcard! Getting little packages has made so many people I have met happy. Let me share a letter I got on Wednesday: “Hello Jonathan, Today I was pleasantly surprised upon receiving your parcel! Thank you, I wish I could give you a big kiss right now! I enjoyed the card and its content. And the candies were so delicious(I have never eaten them before). I realize more and more that you are the personification of an Ideal Man! I am thinking of you often too...There are many things reminding me of you...” [Ok, the letter went on-- but that is the end about the package. She loved getting it-- as have other friends I made in Ukraine.] This is from someone I’ve spent some time with, a very nice young woman. Getting small parcels in Ukraine is pretty uncommon-- as the mail is usually considered so unreliable that people don’t really use mail there often! But, I have been successful getting most packages through. By the way, I have also shipped non-insured parcels. They often do get there. I shipped one girl 3 small parcels. One got there no problem, one arrived opene kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2007 12:01:39 AM   Thanks guys! Jonny, unfortunately I cannot take all of your advice, as I don't live in the US :-) I think I'll have a go with EMS. kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 9:06:51 AM   So! On March 23rd I mailed the CD's to the girl through EMS. The CD's are worth 50 euros, approximately. EMS charged me 50 euros for the postage!!! After the parcel had been awaiting delivery for weeks in both Germany and Ukraine, last Tuesday the bloody Ukrainian customs in Kiev asked the girl $40 in tax, which are obviously being paid by me. Now the parcel is supposed to be sent from Kiev to the girl, after about 3 weeks from the dispatch. Never again!!!!! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 11:38:07 AM   kingarthur, Not to say I told you so but: Martin_UK Send: 23.02.2007 8:33:15 KA, Not so long ago I was asked to send some soccer stuff to Ukraine, from the soccer website I was given a choice of UPS or DHL, I chose UPS because they were cheaper than DHL but, with hindsight, I would speculate that UPS can do it cheaper because they're saving money on not paying the required bribes to the Ukrainian authorities. Well the shipment was held up in Kiev for more than a week, they were demanding all sorts of paperwork and money, and it was only after I cancelled the shipment that the Ukrainians realised that they weren't going to get their bribes, or 'their' soccer stuff that they had taken a fancy to, and they released it but the recipient still needed to pay import taxes. I would say that to try to send something to Ukraine is more trouble than it's worth, I take it in my suitcase these days! olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 1:14:59 PM   EMS for a cd from US to Russia will be about $20. Russians can receive up to 300$ without custom fee. Ukraine is very screwed up today probably as they try to get bribes even for mail delivery... I sent used notebook pc that was bought on ebay for $100 to Kiev 2 years ago. they tried to extort big tax, but small bribe to a custom official cleared it up. but they did screw my friend's brains out. I guess everybody should be ready to pay a small bribe when sending something to Ukraine. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 2:47:55 PM   As has been mentioned previously in this forum - I work for the US Postal Service - and must tell you that as of in May 2007 we introduce a new Rate Fold - meaning that International Mail rates are subject to change. There will be fewer categories and those that remain will have different names AND prices. Its all available at our website. pe.usps.gov jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 2:49:23 PM   Pardon me - that's pe.usps.com jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 2:53:21 PM   Follow this link: http://pe.usps.com/RateCase2007/default_html.asp and click on "International" to get the new rates as of May 14th, 2007. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 3:11:37 PM   EMS that olegnay refers to above is actually done through the US Postal Service. Until May 14th 2007 it is refered to as our Global Express Mail product. AFTER May 14th I BELIEVE it will be Express Mail International - and the prices WILL be higher. As of March 23rd final decsions were still being made and as I understand it - have been published by now in the Federal Register. At least four major features of the new rate hikes still had not been determined as of last week (pretty funny when you consider that these changes take place in about a month) and the USPS was still educating its clerks and major mailers in hastily arranged classes at every large Processing and Distribution facility throughout the country. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2007 7:00:52 PM   jetmba, I mention Express Mail International,as Global never worked for Russia. so it wa shigher. I said around $20 meant 20-30:) but anyway I always use EMS even for big packages to Rrussia. It has worked reliably for lat 6 years. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Mailing a parcel to Ukraine
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