As you Guys may have notice I am new here, and learning as I go, I really need this forum, One of the concerns that I have is corresponding with a Lady, and agree to go on one of these trips to the respective city, Meeting the Lady that I have been corresponding with and she may or may not have other correspondeces there to meet also .
This thread can quickly degenerate into "How to do it" arguments. I would prefer not to see that happen, however, I feel it necessary to point a few things out to you at this stage.
The lady who is using a face to face marriage agency in combination with a website, whether or not the two are part of one company is not important, but if she is prepared to use the face to face agent and be a part of a group meeting at one of these socials, she is likely to be more bold and forward than the one who plays a private style of game in all of this.
Be realistic in your thinking. Words are words. If she is communicating with you, she is likely communicating with others. That is normal. You have nothing exclusive between you right now. I suggest you keep it just that way until after your first trip. What is the point in getting all strung out over someone you have never met. Too many risks.
Your first trip SHOULD be a discovery trip with possible bonuses.(Finding someone special) If you get all hung up that "This is the one" before meeting, it may work but there is a high chance it wont.
I suggest, go meet your lady early in your trip. If there is sparks then great, you will have the trip of your life. Have a back up plan. I suggest, although I don't like them much, form an association with a reputable agent on the ground, and if you need them for logistical support, transfers, apartments, terps etc, pay as you use and if the first lady goes south, revert to using the agent for meeting several ladies. Leave the back end of your trip a little open and you have many choices. If you decide the lady/s are not for you, go siteseeing and enjoy your vacation. If someone turns out to be Ms Wow, you then just might have the most personal and pleasant guide you can imagine and still do the siteseeing thing together. Can be lots of fun and little or no pressure.
I'd like to see you get a grip on the idea that you should be thinking in terms of several trips even if you meet Ms Wow first up. If you are hoping, one trip, meet Ms Wow and K-1, then the more likely result is tits up at a later stage when it has cost a lot more time, money and emotions.
No harm in writing several ladies, but simply do it with integrity and don't get all romantic about it. If someone asks if you are writing others, tell her. Personally, I don't think it is important one way or another at this early stage. I am very much a one woman man, but that comes after you have decided on an exclusive relationship. If she is meeting you as part of a group situation, she is almost certainly meeting one or two others. The trick is, you have got to be good enough to stand out above the crowd.
I/O
Your words are very excellant to adhere to and great advice,and I have been trying to stay away from the remeo type letters, some of these Ladies are hung up on the love at first sight and make it sound like i am the greatest thing that walks, that the reason behind the question, I am going to have to make a decision to spend the time off work and the time to go one of these socials, Are the Ladies worth that much?
You are speaking to someone who is totally and unashamedly biased. I think the eastern ladies are IT. I can't say I am convinced about these "Socials" because frankly I am not sure that you will see the "Cream of the Crop". However, I would be quick to qualify that by saying that several guys have met and later married, first rate ladies from these socials. Just kinda seems like a meat market thing to me. But again, others can advise you better in this respect, because I havn't ever been to one of these socials.
The ladies hung up on love at first sight, are IMHO more likely to be "Fat Yuris" posting ladies photos. Decent Russian women are no pushovers, and if the L word starts to appear early, I would be very suss of it.
I/O, I couldn't agree more about the socials. I've been to socials in Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Krivoy Rog, and Kherson. I would agree that they are not filled with the best and most wonderful of Ukraine.
In the Odessa social in December, there were-- I don't know-- 200 women? And one was beautiful.
One.
I mean, there were many, many women. But, it was NOTHING LIKE the scenario painted by the websites promoting the socials, where there are 200 women and 100 are so beautiful. There were many women, many girls. Some were very nice.
One was beautiful.
And just like with any beautiful woman at gathering in America, there were very many men at that social wanting to talk with her.
Do you know that at the Odessa socials, they give away door prizes to the ladies? If the woman stays the whole night, they hold a drawing at the end and give out prizes. PRIZES.
Champaign and hors d’oeuvres, and then door prizes.
My good friend Yana now lives in America—she met her husband over Elena’s Models. She regularly went to socials, and is a very good woman. In fact, I first met her at a social.
And, a woman I wish I DID marry met her husband at a social. She is wonderful, so incredibly beautiful, and I only wish I had married her. She went to 1 social, and a met a man who had the good sense to marry this wonderful woman.
Ok, so, with that said—two wonderful women that I know personally who have gone to socials (including one that went regularly)—it is my personal opinion that most of the women I would be interested in don’t go to socials. Perhaps they went once, and they would never go back.
The websites (and their DVD’s) promise wonderful things about the socials. But, a lot of reasonable women in Ukraine think about the socials exactly like a woman in America would think about one. I might venture to guess that if you showed a female friend, colleague, or family member the promotional information on a social, many of them would think it was unpleasant or distasteful. Like ‘shopping’ for a woman.
Well, many women in Ukraine think of them the same way. And they would never go to one.
Maybe you would be lucky, and meet that wonderful woman on her first social. Maybe it would have been her first and only social, because she never would have gone back.
But, instead it is her first and only social because she met you, her perfect man.
For the socials, I really would be prepared for a room full of women, most of whom hopefully are deeply wonderful people. But, have reasonable expectations and know that it is very unlikely to be a room full of models that the promotional materials promise. They might be wonderful! But it is not a room full of models.
I would be curious to know if others had different experiences—where there really were many beautiful women at a social.