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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Fiance or Spouse? Author Post Navarreman1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2007 7:47:00 AM   Not making any big or sudden plans yet but would like to inquire as to your opinion on whether it is best or advisable to marry in Russia and then K3 or to K1 and get married here. Which is easiest? Which is fastest? Are there advantages one way or the other? p.s. Thanks to all of you who steered me to www.visajourney.com. Extremely helpful website. A must for anyone looking to take the plunge! DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2007 12:59:51 PM   Visa shouldn't be the sole perspective here. Perhaps, you want to get to know her during the 90 days allowed by I-129F petition and K-1 visa. I-130 and K-3 is a more assured way of getting her into the country, if she's a prize. eye Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/3/2007 3:31:16 PM   I agree with dr take advantage of the ninety days and whip out a prenup drawn up by a russian lawyer. jjbarrier Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/4/2007 7:09:10 PM   I was told by someone at USCIS that marrying abroad takes a lot longer, up to 2 years. I was strongly advised to use the K-1 visa instead. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/4/2007 7:28:35 PM   It used to, but thanks to Clinton, there's now K-3 (spouse) and K-4 (spouse's children) visas that take as much time as K-1 visa to process, while processing of I-130 continues for a couple of years. Navarreman1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2007 7:09:47 AM   I contacted John Roth's office on this one and they advised me to go K-1. It is cheaper and offeres a smoother process than the I-129f and I-130 route (K-3). I was surprised at their answer as I would have thought it would be the lesser evil to marry first and then import rather than the alternative. But Roth's office recommends the K-1 if you can get it and they're the experts. Dr. K, I am not bringing her here sight unseen. I have and will continue to make more trips to visit her. I was merely inquiring about the process I will face when the day arrives. As you said, the I-130 can take quite some time and that is the drawback to that route. The K-1 can lead directly to the I-485 and permanent status in less time and cost than the I-130. So sayeth the Office of Roth. I did not know any of this when I started this thread but I feel confident in the info supplied by their office and once again thank those of you who helped by supplying their contact info. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2007 8:57:27 PM   I-129F is the CIS # for fiancee petition, while K-1 is the DOS # for K-1 fiancee application. Filing I-130 + K-3 + (Lord Forbid) K4 altogether can be a lot of work, but she can have a green card at least 6 or 7 months sooner than going with K-1 first. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2007 3:14:45 PM   Thats not True! The time frames are similar for both a k1 and k3 visa's and it also depends on what service center you apply through. My wife came on a K1 her friend came on a K3 the disposition time is very similar. My wife arrived 2 weeks previous to her friend. Their green card timelines now are very similar. They both should have their interview close to the same dates, with the exception my wife may not be required to have a interview since they shipped her documents to California from Chicago. The verdict is still out on that. You won't get a green card any quicker using a K3 v. a K1. It doesn't take 2 years for a k3 visa. As for advice from Roth, as much as he charges it shouldn't be any different. He's way over priced for the service he provides. He's been a disaster for a couple of my friends on this forum. If you can read and have a high school education you can do your visa applications. Go to visajourney.com read on k1,k3,k4 visas. The expense isn't that much more, with the exceptions you are applying for dependent children. The attorneys want you make you think it is significantly more that a k1 so they can charge a more ridiculous fee than the 1500 dollars some try to sell on their clients. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2007 10:04:23 PM   Hey Nasfan Do you if a girl from FSU country can get a visa to US if she has a close relative living here in States? Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2007 10:24:22 PM   If they have already filed I-130 for her, she can get working viza HIB1 working for international company L viza fiance viza K1 she is not eligible for J or F student visas. The first consultation lower is free, Call them and ask. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2007 6:42:52 AM   Man, things really need to spelled out before a couple of you federal employees, like Nasfan get it, and what does it say of others when they specifically address their questions to these individuals? Read my postings just above my last posting. I do say that K-1 and K-3 processing times are about the same. But if you go with K-1, marry when she comes here, and then file I-130, you will have delayed her green card processing for this duration of at least 6 or 7 months. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2007 2:01:08 PM   Uh, Dr. Koop, legal advisor, you don't file an I-130 for your spouse under a K1. I-485 AOS is what you file. I think you're the federal employee, you absolutely have no clue. My wife will have her green card in approximately 1 year after she set foot on the ground in the US. You need things spelled out for you buddy! Stick to medicine your henhouse lawyering sucks. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2007 3:49:24 PM   Change I-130 to I-485. My mistake. But it still doesn't change what I was trying to explain to Nasfan. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2007 7:51:17 PM   Nasfan, Adjustment of Status (I-485) is for going from a 2-year (temporary) green card to a 10-year (permanent) green card. You still have to start off with I-130, and file a I-485 after you've had your temporary green card for 2 years. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2007 7:16:20 AM   In some cases the I-130 may be approved prior to the K-3 being processed. There are certain advantages if this happens such as receiving an Immigrant Visa instead of a K3. Please read the IR1/CR1 Guide if your I-130 is approved during the K3 Process to find out what you can do. So Dr. Koop is again wrong. You file an I-130 only for K-3 visa's. This is just FYI. Can you legitmately Put Dr. in front of your name if your only a high school grad? Well I guess you can in the cyber world. Beemer I'm going to let the great Visa co-ordinator Dr. Koop Answer your question. Since he wanted to insult our intelligence, I want him to elaborate more on his quite defined experience in this area. If he doesn't I will shortly. But Please define close relative. K1/K2 fiance spouse and children and K3/K4 married spouse and children are operating under similar time lines. You can go to the USCIS website or Visa Journey.com and investigate timelines. The only thing that will affect the green card application is when you file your I-485 and where the application is run through. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2007 5:21:24 PM   Nice one Dr. Koop I truly know now that you have never been involved in this arena. Again, You do not have to file I-130 for a K1. Sorry Pal. After two years you get conditions lifted. Though a member here at one time did it the same way and his wife got a ten year green card. After you marry a K1 holder you must file an I-485 adjustment of status to become a permanent resident. After you are married you must file an adjustment of status. Also when you girl arrives take her to the social security office, as long as her I-94 hasn't expired you can get a social security card immediately. It's scary when guys post their intellect here and never have travelled down the road. Be wary of Information here. Some of these clowns only speculate. By the way this is for American Immigration information. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2007 7:13:23 PM   Nasfan, I directed my question to you in particular because you speak more from actual experience and DrKoop speaks more from interpretation. Question is in regard to a couple girls that told me of being in States recently(last couple years). One has a father living here and other has sister living here. I am not sure if they are truthful or just setting me up for later??? I was hoping that jetmba would chime in also. Thanks nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2007 6:33:24 AM   No problem beemer. Most of what I learned is from others that went through the process ahead of me. Saved me so much grief. Also www.visajourney.com will give you all the information you need in the future with a comprehensive forum that can answer any questions you may have. Definition of a Sibling (per the USCIS) A sibling is a brother, sister, stepbrother, stepsister, or adopted brother or sister. For the necessary sibling relationship to exist, each person must have been a child of at least one of the same parents. The siblings need not share the same biological parents as long as both became “children” at the appropriate time (before the age of 16 in cases of adoption, and before the age of 18 for stepchildren). Overview of the Immigration Process A legal immigrant (or “lawful permanent resident”) is a foreign national who has been granted the privilege of living and working permanently in the United States. There is a three-step process for your brother or sister to become a legal immigrant: The USCIS must approve an immigrant visa petition that you file for your brother or sister. The State Department visa bulletin must show that a sibling immigrant visa is available to your sibling, based on the date that you filed the immigrant visa application. If your brother or sister is outside the United States when an immigrant visa number becomes available, your brother or sister will be notified to go to the local U.S. consulate to complete the processing for an immigrant visa. If your sibling is legally inside the U.S. when an immigrant visa number becomes available, he or she may apply to adjust status to that of a lawful permanent resident using the Form I-485. Depending on the relationship and the country involved, the wait for an available sibling visa number may be several years. You may refer to the Department of State’s Visa Bulletin for current priority dates. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2007 5:54:22 PM   To follow up, yes it's possible Beemer, but I would question the hell out of it. I don't think the numbers would play out that many you would happen to correspond with, would just happen to have relatives living in the states. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2007 6:07:29 PM   Yes,Nasfan, it does seem farfetched. One girl told me last June her father lived in Philadelphia in an early letter. I have no reason to doubt her. She told me she is going back to visit this summer. Other girl told me recently she has sister in Miami, this one I am questioning. Thanks for info. 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