We find out (from inside story I guess) that women really do care, do listen and watch etc. Hurrah!!! At least there is one site where women are given a bit of respect and dignity they deserve.
After being on here (as basic) for over 6 months, I have received only a notorious 32 letters! But... Hurrah!!!
Sorry girls in Tomsk or wherever but I never really intended to write to you - I only joined in order to send flowers to a girl who works on one of the participating sites (and, YES, I got this website through Anastasiaweb - where the girl was registered)...yes, I met her, yes I fell for her (completely), yes we still keep in touch through SMS, personal email etc.
As Ukraine well knows, the first step to democracy, is through people's power.
I don't agree with the pretext of foreigners going to Ukraine, Russia etc, for marriage when they just want sex.
If they just want sex then they should learn Russian and join one of the plentiful sex sites in the Former Soviet Union. They don't need a pretext of a marriage site to do this.
If they, afterwards, fell for the girl (and it was mutual) then I am sure that she would most certainly oblige to being transported across to a wealthier State!
If the foreign men made the decision then it would also get rid of some of the scammers out there on the marriage websites, who are only interested in getting gifts (or money) in return of some flattery and maybe sex!
Gotta a feeling we have found ourselves another of these "I've done something amazing, I survived the FSU Zoo and have the T shirt and phone bill to prove it" types here.
Beanstobe, if you want to moralise to the world, you'll find that on these boards, you'll be generally preaching to the converted. SMS's and such are great, but there is no substitute for "Face Time" to really figure out if you actually have something more than a dream.
I don't approve of the S-Tourists anymore than the next person, but as my other half says, these women are big girls also, they are not babies, they usually get their pound of flesh out of it also.(No pun intended) I think the eastern girls are IT, but don't think you've done anything too amazing by hooking up with one and don't for a minute think they are Goddesses. They are IMO the most wonderful women, but the are still human and many are quite capable of eating your luch from under your nose. You figure.
Of course I have been on sex websites Martin - but not in FSU as I don't live there.
No I haven't been to Ukraine and got the T-shirt yet. But yes I was dating a girl in Ivanofrankovsk for about 8 months back in 2000, have met a few girls in Ukraine during the past three or four times since then, worked a year non stop in Tajikistan (2001) and now live on a country bordering FSU.
True I/O that this forum has a way of cutting people down to scale, in often, I have to say, a sarcastic and demeaning way. Beneath that though of course lies some truth. I don't deny I/O that many of the girls out there in FSU can fend well (very well in fact) for themselves, but foreign men on this forum, are, in my humble opinion, often degrading in the manner that they describe the women that they meet or wish to meet.
That is why it is so good that there is also a woman's site where they can bitch about the various men whom they meet (as another thread showed)...
As for the Ukranian girl that I only contact by SMS, phone etc when I live 7 hour drive away from her? God only knows - she is not a pretty as the Romanian girl I recently split up with, nor as smart, and definetely not as wealthy, but she and I had some very strong bond and connection. Where it will lead to - I don't know. But, yes, your right I/O, it is of course a relationship based upon illusion. Any visit of hers here (as she had planned with her friends last summer) is most unlikely for the simple reasons that Romania is in the EU, Romanians don't like people from FSU and one major political party here advocates a bigger Romania that would see the area where this girl live be part of Romania. As long a one sees it for what it is, there is nothing wrong continuing dreaming though, is there I/O?