I am hoping some of you might be able to provide some of your thoughts on my situation.
I am have been corresponding with a lady from Lugansk for 2 months. I am planning on meeting
her in a couple months. The positives are that her letters appear very sincere, real, no requests for money or "I love yous", etc. she offered to meet me at the airport and also to find me a flat to stay in. she also turned down my request to spend a weekend in Kiev (i think this is a good thing b/c we are still strangers so I probably s/not have offered so soon)...anyhow some of the negatives: except for the first letter (i wrote to her first), she has not really asked any personal questions of me. although this has happened to me in the past w/ other girls and i know they were real, sincere i.e. sent me regular mail letter, acknowledged flowers sent from a 3rd party). Also, she did not acknowledge flowers i sent to her for Women's Day...i will be talking to her on the phone for the first time tommorow and will ask for her phone number. she did give me her address a month ago, although i realize that doesn't necessarily mean anything...did some scam site checks on UA profiler and other sites and was okay...i think i'm talking to her but i just hope if i go there that it isn't a "freeload dinner/gifts" type of thing and zero sincerity, so a scam...and also, what to think of her correspondence to me...Thanks!
packer,
Have you been asking of her, approx, 2 questions in the early on letters and has she been answering your questions in detail.
Could be the 'freeload' scenario, run whatever information you have on her thru google, her name, first name followed by Lugansk, her address, her partial address, and one or two paragraphs from her first or second letters.
Should have stopped right when you said Lugansk.......nothing ever came out of my correspondence with a girl from there and several have been rouses. This may be real but would you bet on the 5% over the 95%. Better have your back up plans ready to go.
I've had similar problems where there seemed to be an unusual lack of personal questions. It is easy to loose sight of the fact that our letters and her letters are frequently filtered through a translator. Even in the best of circumstances, that places a limitation on the communication to at least some extent. One time, under similar circumstances I began writing to the woman in Russian. After a few emails expressing shock and amazement, and a few others designed to test whether I could really read and write Russian, the tone of the conversation changed. Indeed, the translating party between us had been eliminated.
I'm not saying that this is the problem in your case. I'm just sharing one of my experiences.
Packer , it is a tricky situation and one that I find myself in at the present time (with a different girl , I hope !! )
It is impossible for you to trust her 100% simply because of a) the fact you have not met her yet and b) the many stories you see and hear about girls from this part of the world.
I would be a little wary , if I were you , I do not want to sound too negative but there seems to be a few doubts which is not a good base on which to start ..is it ?
My girl sounds very similar , they are clever , you know , she does not ask any personal questions and seems reluctant to give a home number - I have her mobile but I guess this does not mean a lot - she could be anywhere.
Go with your heart mate - this is the best & only advice some-one can give...
Cheers
I would discontinue relations with this woman immediately. Any woman that would not meet you in Kiev is not worth it. If she really liked you, she would go to Kiev. I'm one of those people that decided NOT to send Women's Day gifts BEFORE meeting the person first. She sounds like someone in her early 20's who might still be one of those university students. Try again and good luck.
If she were, is, a respectable and careful lady she might not want to get herself into a situation, in a neutral city such as Kiev, whereas she thinks that the guy will expect them to sleep together from day 1 nor that she might be dependent upon him thus if they have a falling out then she would be on her own and far away from home.
Do you know how to detect a serious lady? When she wants you to meet the family, how the fock are you going to do that in Kiev?
I assume the both of you are rich and are already married to women of the former FSU. You are on this board to serve as legendary advisors to all of us. You are here to guide and lend advice to us desperate single guys who can't get women in our own countries to even look at us. Thanks for being there. You guys rock! With that said...I have to go now. I gotta take a dump. Later...rams it 2 ewe
Thanks for all your replies, I appreciate it. Martin - I will do some more searches as you
suggest. I hope this will answer your question: we have been writing for 2 months. during this
time she has answered all my questions in detail, she just hasn't asked a lot of personal questions
in return yet. I tend to agree w/ your reply on her declining to meet in Kiev. She is 30, I am
38. Her letters really are quite sincere and very thoughtful (but of course could be a great letter writer too for the wrong reasons)...I'll see how our first phone call goes later this morning - i'll post back later today. Also, i should say that i am doing a background check on her and will wait for
the result of that too. but if i do end up going, which i think i will i mean to lugansk that is, and if things turn sour, then plan B would be to possibly stay 1-2 days there and meet someone else if possible, or just more than likely take the first flight back to Kiev and just site see and if i meet someone great if not then try to have an interesting vacation.
One more thing for now: its interesting b/c some people have said,not only here but other sites, that
no more than 5% are legit from Lugansk. At the same time, others have said the girls are more than likely legit it is the agencies that are not. Then a couple days ago I was given the names of 3 agencies that were told to be very honest (of course who knows right away)...now this morning another poster who lives in Lugansk and has worked w/ this industry intepreting and such said to me "all women who use internet" are scammers and are after your money...but that is not true at all...some cities more than others and some the root of evil w/ the women and some the agencies or both...
Are you going to spend the rest of your natural born life nitpicking what other people say? You have no ability to accept the views of other people. It's all about, you, you, you! By the way, since you are a king, what kind of throne do you have? Mine isn't special, just the toilet in the other room. Know what I mean?
David,
With all due respect you jumped straight in by telling Packer, to the effect, to dump her immediately, you didn't even advise Packer to 'proceed with caution', you went the whole nine yards and why, because to dump her would have been your own personal choice.
So when you meet and subsequently marry your lady and she wants to holiday in one destination but your choice of destination differs to hers, what are you going to do, divorce her without so much as discussing where you go on holiday together?
I've got a girlfriend in Lugansk. She's a student of Institute of Culture and Arts of LNPU. She's very serious about our relationship... I just wanna tell you... all girls aren't into scams... but be careful... good luck...
Packer,
But only 5% of men that write letters are said to be legit so that puts guys on a level playing field with Lugansk ladies.
Yes, Lugansk is renowned for scammers 'Loo-Gangsters' but, from memory, some tell-tale signs are that they ask for up to USD10 per letter for translation, in their email full header appears something like cci.lg, they have an underscore in their email address, and when they post their profile they claim to be from a town or village near to Lugansk and only admit being from Lugansk in letters.
All women who use internet are scammers? Give us a break, so what are all men that use internet?
DavidUSA.
He -kingarthur is not really a king and he does not have throne because he is italian and as we all know italy does not have a monarchy. nuff said