LITIGATOR, homebuilderjoe, why do you use different IDs. one is enough. We all heard your concerns. email to admin. How your post is realted to the subject? what is wrong with privacy here on the forum? read our terms and conditions.
homebuilderjoe: give it a rest. If you had any credibility to begin with it is gone. If your goal is to make a fool of yourself here - you are doing an excellent job. But I suspect that you do that a lot in day to day life anyway.
yes homebuilderjoe, we remove posts when we want to it is our forum we do not do it secretly:) forum members, do you see nay benefits in this post from homebuilderjoe? and yes we are very sensetive about one member accusing somebody else with names on our forum. yes, other people requested us to remove posts, we removed them. If somebody find this post offencive and report it to us we will consider it for removal. I personally consider this post of yours offencive to me. and to our forum/
Stop trying to justify yourself by repeatedly citing me, I am not criticizing what you have been doing the past day or so, so far I have been abstaining which for someone who is supposed to have a big mouth is quite an achievement.
If you really want to find someone with a big mouth then try looking in the mirror, you're all bitter and twisted because you were the focking idiot that is said to have sent USD5,000.00 to Lugansk, given a choice between such stupidity and a big mouth I'll settle for a big mouth every time you focking idiot.
And $5,000 isn't just money. Its BIG MONEY!!!! in a place where people might make $2,000 per year. Not a lot of sympathy from someone willing to send that. Nobody can protect you from yourself if you choose to ignore every caution.
First of all Homebuilder, Frank Johnson was at the bottom of the post. Second, I have very little sympathy for you. It is amazing guys like you, supposedly are smart send 5Gk's to a woman 5000 miles away and expect everything to be alright. First of all and I speak from personal experience, any "normal" self respecting Ukrainian woman would'nt have accepted such an amount without thinking there had to be some obligation to it. So you got juiced because you thought the almighty dollar was going to give you some influence with her.
I don't understand with all the information accessible to guys that idiots like you still send money without prudent study. You guys just enable scamming. Second you make an idiotic statement that Ricky is probably receiving the same benefits as you were and it wasn't worth it? Really? It must have been worth it to you, you shelled out 5 grand you fool. You chastise Olga for making a joke out of it. No sir you made a joke out of it when you thought real decent people can be bought with money.
You make the insinuation that she got to you using your son. I think before I would let anyone use my daughter in anyway to emotionally use me, I would see a red flag from that.
End of story. Scammers don't care how they use you, that's the scammers MO, they look for a weakness and exploit it. You tipped your hand way too early. You're looking for sympathy here, you sound too much like Amir. You got spurned and now it's time to make the world your stage.
This is why I have a big problem with scammers being listed on this forum. With the access to information, this is the last place they need to be listed on. Discussions of scamming is idiotic. The real intelligent guys here, know they exist, I knew they existed before I even attempted to contact a woman from here. I had researched enough to know what most of the scenarios are, with a few variations on a theme. Though the common denominator is you can't get scammed unless you send money. A real relationship isn't based on money. I mean do the math, she was existing in her life way before you showed up in her life and she was surviving. Who and what where you trying to impress with sending 5G's to a woman 5000 miles away that you had spent very little time with? Now that you got punted to the curb you're making an issue out of this.
Hell we don't know the Rickyr sent any threat to you. That's your accusation. The thing between Martin and Thunder wasn't a direct result of violence, but a discussing of resovling a problem with a pugilistic exercise. Thunder didn't say I would check my mailbox each day before you opened it. You guys sometimes act like a bunch of pussies here. Oh, he threatened me, oh I'm going to tell my dad, My dad can beat up your dad. You sound like a bunch of children. If someone threated me the way you said he did, my ass would be on a plane to Great Britian and see what this guy's problem was. You know so many intimate things about both of them, it seems finding his address wouldn't be too difficult.
Sorry pal, but your an idiot who thought you could buy love. Again the next great scam. You can't buy real love and I don't know why guys think they can. It's as old as written language. You can't buy it.
What the in the hell is going on here? Donít any of you have real lives?
I guess I must be of the minority who come to this site to learn something about what it is going to be like to find and hopefully marry an FSU woman. I was hoping to find out about others experiences and problems encountered as well as the positive side of such endeavors. Quite often there is very good information out here. What to expect from customs, what to expect from police, what to expect from the woman and her friends and family and a myriad of other information which is helpful to those of us who havenít made a career out of traveling to the FSU to tag the young stuff.
There are a certain number of you that have made this forum your own little campground and you sit around the fire and shoo away the flies and tell stories about those of us who are lesser than you. GET A LIFE!
Go ahead and check my threads and posts. The only time you have seen me get negative is when I wrote that one of the members here actually appeared to be dangerous and a threat to any girl he got in his crosshairs. In other words, clinically psychotic. That was not meant to belittle anyone but to warn that this nutcase was out there.
You guys look for the poor bastard to cut down just to make you feel better about your existence. Americans are better than Brits who are better than the Aussies. Who gives a shit? My girl says that she is interested in me. I am not in competition with anyone but myself. So who cares what the flipping British passport says on it? Mine says United States of America so I guess that makes me turdish. So what! Who cares? Does it affect your lives one bit?
Joe, dude, you lost. Report her to the blacklist, LEARN FROM IT and get on with your life. I just learned a lesson the hard way and I came on here, told folks about it put up with the smartass, egotistical remarks and moved on. I know it hurts. I know it puts a big dent in your ego and your heart. Pull yourself together and move on. Just for therapy I sent all of the info I had on this woman to the proper authorities and reported her to every blacklist I could find. Now it is on with my life and my search. And wouldnít you know it; I think I found someone very special and will go and visit her next month.
As for the rest of you, spend more time romancing and less time typing and maybe you will soon find the one youíre looking for. What we need is your information on what to expect and how to overcome the difficulties you have experienced. What are the keys to success? What restaurants to visit. What do the girls like to do when youíre there? What do FSU woman find interesting? Etc.
MIKE00, thanks for your guidance and wisdom in all you have taught me. Your words, though difficult for me to understand, ring true and I have learned much from them. The few others of you that have actually tried to help rather than find faults with what I write I thank as well. I feel I am adequately prepared for my trip and I hope and pray that it will be a success.
I will now save some of you out there the time and trouble of being tricky and searching for the answer, my name is Bill and I live in Navarre, Florida. I am a licensed Paralegal and Pricing Analyst for a government contractor. I am ex-military and have traveled extensively during my time in the USAF. Married 3 times and divorced 3 times. Looking for something wildly different than the women I have met here. Thatís my story, nothing to hide, no games.
You can have your soapbox back. Thank you for letting me use it. Good luck in your search for that special someone.
If you read all the things you posted before about not sending money, listen to others here etc, etc, etc. Where was the voice of reason in your head?
You say I don't care about anyone? Well you're dead wrong. I'm willing to help anyone here with all that I can. You still can overcome stupidity. I've helped others in the past with places to stay, SOP of certain agencies in Mariupol. So don't lay the I don't care about anyone because I zipped you because of your lack of prudent judgement. I just thank the guys that were here over three years ago with their advice. The biggest one was don't send money to someone you have never met and then do it with prudence. It's simple easy. I can't imagine what a woman from Ukraine could possibly need $5000 except to rip someone off.
The average Ukrainian lives on about 1800-2500 a year. Thats around $200 a month. So what could incredibly could happen that she would need five grand? Sure as hell wasn't for a sick mother I hope. Since medical expense is next to nil unless you go into the private sector. In the two years my wife and I were seeing each other, I think I only sent her about $800 total. 300 of that was for some dental work she wanted to get done before she came to the states, which due to the quality of dental work there we had to have redone anyway. So sending a woman 5000 just flabbergasts me. If you expect not to get flamed then you shouldn't talk about stupidity, since in a previous post you made the adamant annoucement to others not to do such a thing.
What irritates me, is guys that do this just perpetuate the scamming. You don't think scammers don't come onto these forums and read this? Before fiance.com took off our emails addy's it was a field day for some. The scammers are clever, and they variate all the time, but they still can't accomplish a damn thing until a fool parts with his money. And each time it's done, it just brings another scammer along to keep the tradition going.
Then some idiots post how they throw money around because it's their money and live like tommorow will never come. Well they also help perpetuate the scamming. So decent hard working Joe's that are trying to find a lady have to pay for their stupidity also. They also perpetuate the scamming. I won't for one minute give a guy sympathy if he gets scammed out of his dough and comes crying on these sites about it. You have been duly warned. On the other hand, some clowns come here just to destroy someone who shunned them or kicked them to the curb. Equally as stupid. You can't believe what they are saying is fact because they come here and tell one side of the story.