Gee, Bored I see your about as educated on gun crimes as your Buddy is about gun laws. I was reading in the London times you're having problems with gun crimes now. Funny how it's a culture related thing according to the Brits. But the same Leftist Elite Brits were the ones saying it was because of the proliferation of Guns in the United States is why Colombine happened. You can't have it both ways, it's either the gun or the Culture. When you look at the gun crimes in the United States you can pin point it to the inner city criminal element. Most of the gun crimes committed are used with unregistered and stolen firearms. Europe likes to make is sound like there is a gunfight on every corner in the States, which is totally untrue. Funny How Switzerland has very liberal gun laws and a low murder rate by firearms, though suicide is a problem. So it must be the gun causing the suicides. Funny thing I also read in the times is the political elite is having a gun amnesty program, that was a farce and absolute failure in the states. Another, look at what we are doing! Funny gun theft increased so the criminals could turn in their illegal weapons for playstations, Nikes and other items. Silly assed amnesty. The following is murder by capita world wide, with and without guns. The US is a paltry 24th. Now I hope you feel real safe traveling anywhere else now. In this same polling Russia refused to reveal their gun crimes and they have the toughlest laws on the books also with a black market gun economy that is flourishing. My wife was worried about living here, until she saw the truth, We have guns in our house, we don't have a security system. Why because it take the County Police 8 Minutes to respond to a call. A lot of carnage can happen in 8 minutes. Plus Criminals don't like to break in to homes that the inhabitants are armed. Indiana is a conceal and carry state, we have lower home invasions and muggings than most states, plus are murder rates are lower than most other states. Funny must be a culteral thing.
Enjoy your trips to the following countries
Murders World wide per capita (With and Without Firearms)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
#26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
#27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
#30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
#31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
#32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
#33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
#34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
#35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
#37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
#38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
#39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
#54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
#55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
#56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
#57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
#58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
#59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
#60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
#61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
#62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 peop
Gee thanks, I am fully aware of the Jamaica situation as I was one of three key experts on a world bank funded Jamaican Inner City Project focusing on crime prevention - more info is on the worldbank.org website. At least I can console myself that the country I plan to live is not even on the list and can somber at the reality that the country in which I do live is close to that of the rest of the EU.
The statistics given do seem to confer the impression that boredfukka wants to marry a colombian, to transport her by private yacht to South Africa with a stopover in Jamaica, so as to set up a bussiness in the meditterean to transport Moldovan workers to Ukraine and Russia or vice versa.
Anyway I do laugh at the prospect that some people here think that like this these crime figures are a deterrent - just like earning 18 miserable dollars an hour is a profitable bussiness. It equates to 9 quid an hour - which is not much for London standards (consiedring these figures are gross) - and even less when u consider the prospect of being shot. But then I guess we must let the former old colonies believe in themselves a little bit before their invasion by the trosky chinese at their doorstep.
What I like about the above statistics is what is shown on Jamaican Constabulary Police Force GIS maps that provided the above information (and then subsequently supports the above with these maps) is that the process to have got there was managed by a UK guy called Mark Shields - and some of you not so ignoramus might now who I mean as he appeared on TV fairly recently on matters relating to a murder charge of some cricket player - cricket is a sport for those don't know!
Anyway, Mark Shields, high pofile UK based police constabulary showed the statistics between 1998-2006 regarding weapons in UK that were known to have transited through named individual gangs and gangleaders that were named and pinpointed on a GIS satellite map in Kingston jamaica. More interesting the weapons that were later found by the bove branch of UK police, via these individuals, had been proven to have originated from pinpointed x,y,z satelitte GIS co-ordinates in the USA and whose destination was a,b,c in the UK. This was part of a not so secret British government plot to dismantle the cocaine cartel transiting Jamaica.
Anyway so much for our former colonies CIA involvement who the past 20 odd years preferred to leave these strenuous culturally linked drug cartels to fall on the befriended English sods to sort out.
Wonder what coordinates miss pinky, or miss rose or miss natasha would be, but anyhow thanks to UK's Scotland Yard, the US is statistical safer now to the Jamaica led cartels, than it would be without - thanks to our friend Mark Shields. Maybe Scotland yard will beat MI5 at a future rugby to prove and celebrate their worth!
Thanks Bean for the information. I hope Shields also solved the cricket fixing and the murder of Woolmer. Yes we were really worried about the Jamacian drug cartels, like this was something new, I don't think Sheilds had a whole lot to do with that, Since the FBI and the DEA had been tracking and busting the Jamacians for years in the US.
I'm sorry the old Colonies cause you so much heartache. It's a shame that they must feel good about themselves. I remember the Japanese invasion into the states. Now it's the Chinese. Sorry pal the death of the United States is highly exaggerated. Though that's what most of the Liberal leftists in Europe wish for.
I'm really impressed that you were one of the three experts working with the World bank on a Jamacian inner city crime prevention. I just wonder what cartel got the money from the world bank to promote drug trafficking in the US. Since the world bank has financed some highly rogue governments and financed a few coups in their history. Along with starvation of mass amounts of people. Oh I forgot some of the money that went to Aids prevention in Africa that never made to doctors, but helped some rogue leaders run the doctors out of the country when they found out where the money ended up. You know something really smells in an organiziton when the most corrupt union (Teamsters) in the United States boycotts the World Bank. You know even the Teamsters will only lower their standards so far. 5 Jobs and 150K what happened? Hell you should have received at least 6 times that amount of kick backs from the world bank.
Wow global tracking of firearms, now I'm really pissed. Doesn't seem logical to have to register firearms here, since they can track them so easily. Damned bureacracy anyway.
Oh you forgot to Mention that Woolmer was potentially murdered for getting ready to rat out the fix in Cricket. Oh, now maybe we should outlaw rope, or shoelaces as weapons, since it wasn't gun that killed Woolmer. Now I know what really happened. When the bookies in Vegas learned about this they sent some Pakastani's to his room in Kingston and they stangled him. That's why they found him dead in his boxer shorts. You don't mess with the Mob in Vegas when they have the fix in on Cricket matches. So much for the bookies in Vegas being ignoramuses.