Well guys. I've been searching for my FSU bride now for about 4 years. I've pretty much seen it all and have tried it all. It has been a wonderful experience even though thus far I have failed. The marriage agencies are now just too corrupt and even if you do find an honest one the girls in the agencies turn out to be corrupt. I've also met many girls by chance in the street, cafe, and discos. Met many nice girls but most of those type don't want to live abroad. Well, my friend known as RK on this forum has met a real nice girl by using the services of this guy named Slava in Kharkov. For $130 Slava will place my personal ad with photo in some kind of local singles paper. The ad will run for one week. He will be the point of contact for the ladies. He will then ask all personal information and make a list of ladies who have replied to my ad. We then go over the list and choose the ones I wish to meet. He placed my ad today because I arrive next week. He said expect about 30 to 40 dates. 5 will turn out to be model quality. 10 will be very pretty. The rest I will find average to not attractive. I wont have the luxury of a photo so I will have to blind date on personal info he gathers. I will be doing the short power dating for a few days. Hope to find one that captures me and I capture her. Wish me luck. I will let you all know how it turns out when I return.
I did the same in Lugansk :))) That was interesting experience... and it works, I am telling to do it to everyone, but for some reason, most of the guys prefer giving money to agencies, who create false supply for them.
John. I read you return trip thread. Good thing you had multiple backup plans. It's hard to believe there are still some guys who preach "Only go there to meet one girl". Your trip is perfect example of why to have backup plans. John did you hit the streets and cafe's and disco with an interpreter? I found it very helpful in meeting the ladies. But in the end the girls mostly never considered or thought about marriage to a foreigner.
Alexander, I have heard about you from RK. If I ever decide to go to Lugansk region I will be sure to use your help.
Tony, I sent Slava an email and invited him to join this forum. Maybe he will post his contact information for you.
Also, I don't want to misquote Slava. The model, pretty, and average girl percentages I mention above came from a guy named Thor who passed it on to RK. Thor is now married to his girl. RK seemed to have found the one. So, now I'm going to give it a try. I leave in two days. Wish me luck!
Deano - few credible people say "Only go there to meet one girl." What they say is don't lie and try to convince multiple girls that you have been writing to - that you have only come all this way to spend two days with them.
You HAVE to have a backup plan - and if you actually read johnwill's account - even his backup plan failed to pan out. That's why you need some names and addresses - or at least as johnwill did, an idea of where an agency is - that was how he met Irina.
It didn't work to have multiple girls and lies for each one - what worked was a new girl that he was not even aware of when he left.
You say you are going to Kharkov? I'll be not far away in Donetsk.
Deano, seems like I need to move to Kharkov myself :) I was wondering why Thor is not online anymore... well... I guess no time, to much to do with his pretty wife... He sent me a photo before... they look very nice together. Anyway, I plan to go to Kharkov it the end of May or beginning of June.
Interesting approach. I was just wondering what type of girl would respond to ads in a newspaper. Since this is Ukraine, I would defer to someone who knows the area. Just sounds a little seedy. Are the girls responding marrige
minded....you would be one of the few if not only foreigner on there. Is that a positive or not??
Good luck deano!!is only for Kharkov???
Jet, Good luck in Donetsk.
I'll be in Sumy in May.
How's THIS for a new approach - I know that some ofthe ladies from the other forum check in on us regularly but don't post. Well if any of the visiting ladies from the other forum are from Donetsk - write to me at email@example.com. Perhaps we could meet.
Just about finished packing and leave in a few hours. Beem, I'm assuming that these girls are just looking for nice guy due to the fact that a nice guy is hard to find. Especially in Ukraine! Remember from the very beginning the two main reasons these beautiful girls even search for a mate abroad is because the number and quality of the men avaiable to them is bad. Then there is the economic factor. So, Im hoping these girls are trying local personal ads to find a good man. Being a foriegner may help me or hurt me in these ads. I'm not sure how it will turn out but thought it was worth a try due to the success of Thor and my buddy RK. Next update in about a week! See ya!
Well I am going to be in Kharkov from th 22nd May if I can negotiate the jorney from Kiev airport to the train station, got no plan B just hoping that the girl I'm meeting pans out so maybe at a loose end from the 23rd.
get on internet and google marriage agencies in Kharkov and get phone numbers and addresses for agencies. If they have a site you can look at some girls and have your backups, just in case, which usually becomes needed.
Well, I have returned from Kharkov and now will tell you all how this new method for me turned out. First I must say that Slava's service and professionalism was 100%. I was very impressed with him. He gave good advice and his method of meeting the ladies was solid. His interpreter service is excellent and he is not greedy when he is working on the clock for you.
I purchased the one week ad with photo for $130. I think this is the way to go. I provided Slava with all my personal information similar to my profile I would send to ladies in the marriage agencies. From this he wrote my ad on my behalf which included certain instructions by me. The ad was a huge success in terms of response. All total we got about 70 replies. From this 70 I was only able to meet 12 ladies. Why? I had a time factor problem. I was only in Kharkov for one week. I recommend two weeks or more. Or a 10 day trip which will include two weekends. The problem is the ladies are usually not available to meet during the day. Busy working or in University. So, our meetings usually started after 4 PM. During the weekends they are available to meet throughout the day and evening. A few of girls replied by email with photos, some replied by sms (Text message), and some did what is called a missed call. This is a signal for the man to call her back on his money. Slava provides this service included in the $130. 80% of the information will be without a photo. So, I narrowed my list down by age, height, and weight. I got my list down to about 40 and then we started making the calls to arrange meetings. Again due to the short time factor and the narrowing of my list I was only able to meet 12 ladies. Slava's method of meeting the ladies is perfect. Being that most of your meetings will be blind dates it is good to have a back door to escape. Slava arranges the meetings in front of a McDonald's near a metro station which is simple and convenient for the ladies to find. When the lady arrives Slava will introduce you. If you're not impressed with her initially you can suggest coffee in the McDonald’s. This is a signal for Slava to know you’re not interested and the meeting will be kept short. If the girl impresses you then you will suggest a cafe for coffee or tea and Slava will lead you to nearest cafe. We scheduled our meetings every hour. 4 pm, 5 pm, 6 pm etc etc. This seems to work best even if you like a particular girl. It's best to move on and set up a second meeting with her another day because the next girl could be even better. Of the 12 girls I met 2 of them were very beautiful, 2 were not attractive at all, and the rest of them were what I would say good looking. This was the percentage I expected. You’ve got to sift through the coal to find the diamonds. In the end I have met two girls that I would like to return and meet again. During the meeting Slava encourages you to take charge of the conversations. I agree with this. These are not marriage agency girls expecting the same kind of questions from and interpreter who works for an agency. This is a girl who thinks Slava is your friend helping you out with the meeting. It's all about you and the girl. Of the 12 ladies I had met not a single one of them was a scammer in any form. Trust me I know the type. I have met hundreds of ladies in Ukraine. Of course Slava will pay attention to the girls and offer you his opinion but during my meetings we both knew the girls were all sincere. We even met a local rich girl. She pulled up in an $80,000 Lexus. She owned her own business. As far as the cost are concerned. Well, it can add up at $10 per hour which is Slava's interpreter fee. This is the going rate. But even at 5 hours a day working with him the cost will be less than dating a marriage agency girl and you can take comfort in knowing you’re not getting cheated by the agency interpreter and the girl you are meeting. Sometimes they work as a team and split the interpreter money. In conclusion I think this method of meeting the ladies is a good idea and can work very well if you have the time and will to put some work into it.
Seems great and I wish that I would have known of such people as Slava when I was looking.
Just some points though, Slava makes money from interpreting, you say he/you go to McD's or a cafe, might one presume that none of these ladies speak enough English to not leave Slava behind, could it be that English speakers replied to you ad but it was not to Slava's advantage to tell you about them?
Dosent that give you the shits deano birds too busy chasing $250 a month to be available for the ''better life '' when the man turns up = damn rude if you ask me !
If she is 100% keen ON good bloke and a better life work and uni is a long last when the man alights the plane .
I must admit in 2004 mine did the same ''darlink i must is go work'' i said forget it sweetheart you go work leave the boy at home or in hotel narrr its not on .
you go work ''baby" i go home its that simple !!!!
you make time for them 24/7 they can do the same --if they dont--- then they are just shopping you around =forget em move to the next section of the bus stop ay. nexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxt ----------
Forget the agencies mate its dear enough on the ''chase'' as it is without feeding the snake oil merchants mate.
The agencies about as shallow as a politicians promise ay ! i dont believe in the tooth fairy delivering a cat walk doll ''perfect in all ways'' ready to die for you for $100 lol lol lol.
Dont believe in easter bunny either i learnt that back in 1999. agencies agencies what a lotu crap they are sell the same bird 15 times then tell her she can have a day off you know.
Tell me you guys when you go there you have worries speaking the russian ?
My girl does a bit of interpreting on the side these days -still you would need to be where we live for her to be of any benifit to you -------
Ive been lucky ive always had a ''bridge '' english speak girl 2 of her friends same and i worked with poms over there so my need for speaking russian was ohh so little .
Deano mate i could not do what you do mate meet 20/ 40 birds just not in me i went for 1 in 1999 stayed with her 30 months went for another in 2003 stayed 6 months with her then another short timeR now last few years same one ------i dont know how guys could play a field of 40 the ethics of that i doubt very much sit well with aussies very much 1 women men --they take a punt hope for the best .
Seems to have been the way for 200 years -seems to work in most cases -but no the you know comparing one bird to the next busting a few hearts nar i could not do it .
they become like a commodity then --------but iS it right ?
actually you know iam a non believer in agencies --il be long time dead before id walk into one --------but having said that mate if you are paying one they should get it right for you -------first time up -------if not-- then they really not doing thier job .
Thats when agencies graduate to ''scam'' ohh sir she not good for you nyet !! here sir for $200 more i have another in the cupboard and of course she has a friend ( she's another $200 plus taxi of $35 ohh plus flowers at $35 more )
these two just happen two know 4 more birds down the road that for just $75 ea hell !! they'l even meet yu for coffee .
mind you it just so happens we have an interpretor at $15 an hour she just happens to be in town ------------------sir your looking quiet pissed off --hell its 11.30 give us a chance -you have only been hear 5 hours ( yes grumbles the guy and iam already $650 up the creek )( glass of water just set him back 100 rubles) ---there not bad are they ???
( he could have gotten the best small town hooker in the area for $650 for a week so far )
Sir you to look such pissed off !!-------whats that you say you want go samalot / airport?"?? ohh ok we just so to happen have taxi driver that be $150 sir you to have good flight home ------yes i know sir its plane very old tuppelov 154 but !! if it to crash we save is much money on retiring / storage of plane DA DA DA !!!!
Have good flight sir i is to hope you better mood tomorrow ?? you nice man --you come hear as rich man give to us in russia ohh we such grateful---- --now be good boy buy few tourist hats as you to leave please -------
sir i can too ask ??what put to you such bad mood ??----somebody family to die ?? you look as such !!! be happy sir!!! WEE ARE MUCH HAPPY NOW -DOBRA VECTRA .
( woman in agency turns to her offsider) --lena dear she says we get is ''4 live ones this week'' !!!! nice fat sucker --err i mean man !!!
So ok who can relate to that above -------agencies huh yeahhhhhhh hey i met my first girl in the street minus 8 degrees good sort instant type girl whom knew what she wanted in life just went and got it -------we can all do the same!!!! easy easy happy happy and she never cost me a nickel !
morel of the story = mug and his money soon parted !!!
Glad you brought up that point Martin. I forgot to mention that 6 of the 70 replies were from girls who spoke and understood English. I was able to arrange meetings with three of them. And of course there was no need for Slava's service. Of course Slava is hoping to get interpreter work from this but one of the things I liked about him was he never pushed his service on me. In fact on one date we met a girl who spoke and understood some English but she had not mentioned it on her reply. Slava could tell she was understanding what I was saying and he asked her if she understood English and could speak it. She said she could but not very good. After the date Slava told me if I wanted to see her again that there was no need for him. He said she just lacks confidence but if she and I were alone I would see she could manage to communicate with me. Personally I hope this idea spreads thoughout Ukraine. We need an alternative to the corrupt marriage agency business.
Alternative to all marraige agency -walk straight past em like a polluted bread shop
find your girl in the street/ bar / park/ bus/ anywhere but in agency .
Thats how we all did in for 5000 years before the snake oil shops '' agencies sprung up ay ''
you dont need an agency to hold your hand -(bit like paying a guy to mow your lawn - when you can do it yourself )---agency = lazy man's way out --he'l always end up with what the scammer behind the jump wants him to have - yes ! please to TAKE GIRL NUMBER 3 we tink she very nice ---( last 5 guy all say she very nice ) 5 from 5 = $$ usd yahhhhhh!!!
We sell her / you $100 --ok !
Deduction is take out $5 condoms , $25 taxi ..is $85 hotel --ok you just pay to us is $100 --but all costs $115 ---letters she write to you 123 letter x $4 ea you to owe us is more monies sir ! --pay pay or we to call militia .
( mind you you only been in country 3 hours yu near bust already ) that lump is still in your pants ---------a service is starting to look like something that only happens in the Vatican ---its a worry ay !!!
Have faith guys you need faith -- after all you no money left thanks to "ANNAS FAST FOODS& MARRIAGE BAR !!.
Come on guys scrub up ay down to local haunts forget the idiot agencies .