You don't get it and I think you never will. You cannot tell genuine until you meet and spend time together.
Dinners are okay, it gives you a chance to get to know each other but shopping??? Girl is 100% into what she is doing, finding a nice outfit for herself to know there is someone waiting for her. When it is time to pay for clothes you are king of the hill, until there is another shop and she ignores you again. I've seen it you haven't, so your comments on this have no bearing, unless you were a shopper girl!!! Only GUYS experience these things. I see it coming all the way and steer clear, at that point you find out who is sincere and who isn't. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the kiss on cheek as long as its real, not a thank you for buying me $300 in clothes and 'when are we going shopping again'. I don't go to Ukraine to get laid....I go to find a wife, I'll steer clear if girl only wants sex because I won't be the first and won't be the last. If a girl is serious, things will go slow, and cheek kisses are proper and time will be spent getting to know each other.
I was not a shopper girl, guys... I NEVER asked any man nor to give me money, nor shopping... except twice I asked to buy winter Colombia cloth and bicycle for my kid...
Totally a few coming to meet me men gave me a bit more then 5000$ ended in my hands.
No body counted shops, dinners and taxi spendings...
How much did the last MAN spend hm... never count... this process in endless : ) )) )))
Yea, I am spoiled... But it's not my fault. I never asked. I hate asking.
True, if man is not able to give money himself or ask "what you want?" .... he will be piced offffff in a very polite manner sure.... with a kiss to cheek and hug:))))
It's in my case. I don't need ANY man. I want the BEST ONE FOR ME. Ready to fullfill my every single desire and put everything to my feet.
Don't fall under the table guys... I'm ok. I a good woman for My Man. His every desire is fulfilled also... even more :)) ))
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Underline. I was a serious girl ready for seious relation with a serious smart "above middle level" man.
I wanted "full packege" and no less. To get "less" in life I don't need a man.
And with My Man or from My Man I want to get my EVERY DREAM.
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There was one funny thing:
I never called any one to come and meet m e and refused to meet a lot of men after corresponding.
I decided that too many men visiting me is bad, and I didn't want ot waste myself... Ha... if I call everyone who did want to come... I could finish in trouble with annoyed people falled in love with me and got refusal... I didn't want to hurt anybody. But I did it... It was hard.
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The ideas is: if you wanna wife, be ready to spend money for her.
Bem18, not everybody who pays to "buy" me is asble to buy.
After you've bought anything is life the second question is: how to keep in hand what you've got now and how to use.
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Th at's why MY price is a little bit high fro average men :)) I hardly be able to be by side of weak one and to say the truth, most of you are scared of such my type women.
But that doesn't meant that there is no One who sais: "This excatly what I am looking for".
1/ My Man will never be blind.
2/ There is no place of lie in our relations.
3/ There is always place for freedom in choice and actions.
If you don't understand what I mean, again, don't even try to. It means that you are not grown to certain level.
Monada, if you are such a good women you would never leave your child at home. Knowing a number of FSU very well (I'm married to one) your logic and views are perhaps typical of many FSU women (...but I don't know any who would leave their child). Having you on this forum is probably a good thing for the guys here to see what they are getting into.
I do feel sorry for your Aussie boyfriend, having to support your lifestyle in australia (if you get a visa), and at the same time send money to your family to feed the child (and the rest of the family).
Good call, also on the flip side, guys who dump their children are also as bad. The one thing I would disagree with you on, at least in my case, my wife in no way resembles Monoda in any way what so ever, nor do any of her friends.
Monoda being spoiled is your fault. Because your definition of being spoiled is materialistic. Put everything at your feet? You can't be first in anyones life until you are willing to be second. God pity the poor sap that gets entangled with you.
ben2006 and nasfan6,
My hust reads this forum. He'll notice your comments, fo sure :))
By the way to the feet of MY MAN I put everything whatever a woman can put :)))
that's why ladies of my type are not for most of you, guys.
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D iamonds are for those who know their price.... for poor one diamond has no value, bcs it can't feed family.
Hello there, I am the “ poor sap entangle with Monada” ….I decide to make history for my self and post my first and last message to this or any forum and give you all some little advices……yes it is your lucky day….. you see .I had the fortune to live in Ukraine for 2 months where I met the most beautiful and intelligent woman I could have dream to meet, I really love her.
In that time I have realized that UA’s women don’t really have a problem with their local men if he’ll bring money at home by hard work, loves them and respect and does not get drunk, but unfortunately for a lot of hem is not to be….
What they will not accept are some shallow men from rich countries, showing off they good fortunes (good fortune for us is a few million dollars. for them could be just able to pay dinner at restaurant) for self gratification and not sharing that with the woman, in wealthy countries money is more important than life, more important than the woman they want to love.
(I suppose nothing new there!) .. UA is not a spare container of “cook my dinner and clean the house” good looking and subservient wife, it is just full of intelligent and attractive women ready to give everything to their man if the man is ready to do the same. But obviously some men got no ideas…….lost in crap such how much is a taxi or the cost of apartment etc…..man…. look at the big picture.....
and if you met the lady you like…don’t insult her intelligence….and don’t be miser…no one is trying to con you….
Finally to suggest the “Monada” does not love her kid, has made me fuming, how dare you make such judgment, in my book you are cowards just hiding beyond this forum, made mostly of losers, incapable of looking after themselves and looking for excuses for their failures….
Hi Quasi
Interesting ??
To be perfectly honest with you – I haven’t really read all of the “Monada” posts. I have been actually half suspicious of the origin and genuineness of them/her.
Your partner has a very power-full approach (on the key-board at least) If you go back over ALL she has written – you should be able to absorb some of the reason why a few on here have made reaction and criticism back towards her.
Anyway – pleased you spent 2 months there – I did exactly the same 2 summers ago. Not that my wife or I needed it for our own building process – but it sure helped with the Red Tape saga with NZIS
Good luck man – you have got a fiery one on your hands !!!!!!!!
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Who's making judgements? Seems to me Monada has been judging a lot of guys on this forum. I made the comment that I can't understand how anyone can leave a child in the Ukraine or any country for that matter. Surely a child should be with his/her mother and you should tell her that you want her child to join you and be a family together.
I only commented on a what she posted here. If you don't want people commenting on something don't write about it.
"Totally a few coming to meet me men gave me a bit more then 5000$ ended in my hands."
She certainly accepted something from some shallow men.
Congrats to you both anyway, but this is the easy part, it will be harder when shes in aussie. Good luck Quasimodo, i think you may need it. Clearly you understand what its like in the UA having spent some time there and have won the heart of this girl and treat her very well which others should learn from. But...geez, I won't want to be you mate.
NOOOO.... I NEVER ACCEPTED MONEY FROM SHALLOW MEN :)) ) ) HA H A :)) any ways... it was fun.
As for my kid. Since I am ALONE with my daughter, you undertsand that my kid has lost my already and "full" mother, bcs I work, think how to get money to pay for everything and how to build new life.
That's why ny task is not sitting days to day with my kid - I won't be able to do anything.
I'm not going to take my kind and sit in the head of my hust, eating his money.
I'm going ot join him as partner and work together for our goals. that's why there's no need to strees my 2 years old daughter by moving to anither country to foreigh people, foreign food and invironmen.
Now here in Ukraine my daughter has everything the best whatever I caught do for her: the best kindergarden, the best foo, the best cloths, the best toys. She has people around he, my mom and my dad...
Yea, it's difficult to live kid and go smthere, but not forever. Finally we will decide if to move back to europe ot take my daughter to UA.
And, ben2006, if I will need 10 000$ for my kid ot to give my mom, I'll find money even under the ground :)))
But from men coming to meet me it was easier, isn't it?
Note, I never ask and piced off a lot of those who did want to see me.
.. maybe the stile of my correspondence was very clearly shown what they should do :))
I was not "money" orientated girl and was choosing a prorer person for ME with certain qualities, but most important - with inner strength.
Monada, all you need is love and a decent man who will accept your kid and be able to provide sufficiently for you.
Monada, don't be so bitter towards all men. Not all of us are ass holes!
Being rich can not make you happy.
The marriage vows..to love and too cherish, to care for in good times and in bad..until death to us part.
Life was not meant to be predictable...every one has good and bad times, especially with money.
I am having a bad time with money at the moment as I have suffered an income drop for up to 2 years, but I know its temporary until I am medically fixed as I need to have the surgery for my work damaged hands as they will get worse without treatment..I will return to work eventually as good as gold, will not be the same job or occupation my doctor thinks because being an Electrical Tradesman is what damaged my hands, too physically hands on so it will be something else such as Technical support advisory role in electrical wholesale/retail business and clerical duties..still in electrical business but not pulling and cutting cables anymore.
I do have enough money to live, eat, pay my bills, run a car, have broadband adsl internet and go out from time to time and provide for my kids when they visit me and yes I do have to budget and count the pennies and be careful how I spend my money ( being responsible )
If your man suffered a work injury like me, Monada and had to go on a pension for a while, until he could be fixed up medically and there was a real drop in money and you were not able to get your new dress or shoes and had to wait, would you dump your man in the garbage because he could not provide enough for you.??????
Aussie
When doors close there are other doors we can open. Maybe you could start an electrical business in a different field without having to pull all those cables. A friend of mine is an electrican and he has an infra red camera, which he uses for fault finding in big industry electrical cicuits. We sometimes work together using his camera to find faults in buildings. The guy charges $150 per hr so its a good little business. Better than the benifit. Something to think about.
I did look at trying to buy one of the infra red cameras in Russia, because they make something similar there and I thought they would be cheaper. Can you believe it, they wanted 10x the price I can buy it NZ, They quoted me $100,000. I can never understand how the Russian ecconomy works.
It seems the that Monada isn't the only self centered person at that IP address. Making history by posting, please give us all a break.
"What they will not accept are some shallow men from rich countries, showing off they good fortunes (good fortune for us is a few million dollars. for them could be just able to pay dinner at restaurant) for self gratification and not sharing that with the woman, in wealthy countries money is more important than life, more important than the woman they want to love. "
What an indignant post. One that lacks any character and any substance. First and foremost, you don't know any of us here. Second, your other half is the one posting her dyslexic view on life, who only bases life existence on material quantums. Since you're so experienced in life in Ukraine which after two months hardly qualifys. What is the problem with a guy asking the price for a taxi, or where is the best place to stay, or how they can save a buck here or there? Misers, really, you've contradicted yourself in one post almost as much as your lady does here. First you condemn men for coming from wealthier countrys and being shallow, then in the same post deride a guy for saving a buck on a taxi. You're an absolute joke. You couldn't see the big picture if it was painted in front of your face.
You're other half or should I say other personality, quotes inner strength,
She couldn't define inner strength with a websters dictionary. I guess taking money from strangers is your definition of inner strength. I think Ben hit it out of the park. So who is the shallow person here.
You're own post is cowardly. You assume way too much, mostly losers and failures. You're pathetic. "The Monada" that had me falling off my chair. You must have went to the Mike00 school of blistered and bastardized english. Save it Modana/Quasi for the real guys here that are making this venture and not hammering a culture or a certain lifestyle. Sounds like you both are full of class envy, that in itself is enough to tell me that loser that you are.
I don't think thats the first time "the Monada" has tried to deceive guys over the internet. Nice touch thou...using bad english I mean, I really did think an aussie wrote it.
nasfan6 - I don't know anyone here, but also you don't know Monada, your comments have been inappropriate, also most people did understood what I was referring too, but you obviously are the "special one".... seek attention.
ben2006 - I did come in Australia 24 years ago from another European country, also if you don't understand my English and what I did point out, you should join nasfan6 in what i suggested above.
And finally if you could really read where my IP address come from you will notice that there are about 18000 km between me and Monada (I may add unfortunately) Monada enjoy debating in forum, but some of you are simply below expectation to really understand what she really mean, but don't worry been simple is not a sin.