I would have to agree with Monda to a point. The question is how much money does it take for a woman to love a guy? Every woman is different. Some would be satisfied to follow their heart if a guy puts food on the table, is romantic and treats her special, yet as a human being. Other women may need more to feel fulfilled, such as fur coats, diamonds and a mansion. Now if they truly love the man who provides those or just in love with what he can provide is another question? Of course there are those women who are in between too. Sure there are those women out there who would follow a man to live in a cave for love but the majority I believe are looking for a man who they can love that can provide them with safety, security, romance, and decent food. Those all take money to some extent and if a man does not have it in him to provide those things then he will lose most women who he cares for, even if the woman feels a certain love for him. Part of who a man is I believe is his character and what he can provide his family.
Now there are those women out there who are really men (and some women) only looking for our money... but that is another story and we call those scams. :-)
It’s ok Thunderdome there was a bit more to understand in my reply, nothing to do with long leggy Tina……she can’t really do much from “beyond” ….I should really make it simpler for you……because it get too long to travel between your “immeasurable” space………..they say if goes through a “black hole” it get there quicker……but also that is why thinks get distorted in space….don’t need to be a clairvoyant to work this out…..
Shallow guys? Monada..I define a shallow guy as someone who beleives he is good looking and Gods gift to every woman and he roots around ( in Australia that means fooks every woman, sows his oats everywhere and does not know the meanings of the words "faithful and loyal" )..such men are shallow..the so called "rooters" that can never be trusted!
I don't fall into that category..one of my ex-girl friends described me as a rare find..a man that does not root around and is a one woman man..pity she did not practice my values and I dumped her and also for being a silly shallow bitch!
I'll will be satisfied if man gives me HIS ALL.
He may be millionair and give a part of himself or smth...
He may not have millions but to give me ALL. ABSOLUTLY ALL.
That's what I need.
As for the rest we will reach all tgether.
Rich people tday can be poor tmrw, and poor today tomorw may be rich, isn't it? Who has any guarntee?
Everything is Desire, Hardworking, able to work in Team for certaine aims.... if you undestand my crooked English....
and etc etc etc.
Twice I tried to build family relations and rise my husb... the last one had sssoooo heavy asssss, that for me was easier to go and do everything by myself then oush him to do smth in life....
finally I desided that without him my life is much more easy and to provide MORE to my kid I was obligated to leave him.
Not me, but HE made that decision by his attitude to his family.
And my principle is: EVERYBODY IS FREE. "You don't want? Ok, bye." That's all....
... and do cry then, don't crowl on you knees. You've made your choice - be responcible for that.
That's how I think.
As I wrote for my kid I don't give a shit to anything and nobody. I'm without heart if smb or smth maked harm to her and destroy even her own father if need. I did it. Mentally, he is dead and he never ever will see his daughter.
What was funny, my 2 yo daughter looked at Quazi, thought for a while and called him "dad".
And he is perfect father. I'm happy. Thank you Quazi.
Jealous of a fantasy? I highly doubt Beemer is Jealous.
Read your Philosophers Modanamodo, What does not destroy us, makes us stronger
Frederich Nietzche. Though, us westerners aren't nearly as educated as you two, Would you like to discuss Hegel or Kierkgaard? Run and google them, along with you routes to travel around Ukraine.
WOW!! I am impressed…philosophy!!! That will help on your relationship issues…last time I check the best seller book in the west was “Get a fiancé for Dummy” …….you definitely making progress……..but it only comes with Philippine’s street directory………..
You know Monada, I think you have a "timber brain"... people try to explain you that normal people seek love and not money, and you just don't get it. Of course you must be able to provide for your wife and kids, show me one post where someone says the contrary. But you wrote, you will only settle for the best, a man that can give you everything and fulfill all your desires. That's money talk, baby...
And finally you admitted: "So. If I ever say that I love man only for him – it will be lie."
Which proves tha point that, you're not looking for love, but an easy materialistic life. First money then the person.
I rest my case, as you have answered my questions with the phrase above.
But hey, it's your life and you do as you're pleased. I just hope that some of these post enlightened quazi and he knows his place in the relationship now. Not enough money, no love and cy later.
To each his own, but I would be kicking someone with this mentality further she can run...
What i dont undersand is that, why you guy's think if you will find girl from russia, ukrain or some other country- you shuldnt spend money on her?
she wuld be same girl like from UK or USA, she needs to good clothes, good food, wants to get presents like all normal girl (surely if your relationships r siriuos).
noone normal man wont count how much he spend on his girl, cos he wont wait till she ask him "lets go to shop for buy new panty's for me"
and surely wont post on forums like "OMG i payed for her taxi it was my last money damn, better i wuld sit at home"
if you r bored from ukranian/russian want only money from you... get girl from your country, where is the problem?
or you guy's r too poor for girls in there ;)
PS: sorry for my poor english, cos noone pay lessions for me :)
If you seen her personal pics ( I have and she is hot ), Monada is a high class Ukraine woman and demands the best.
She is very good at flaming everyone here and we all love to bark..it make this forum fun when a real Ukrainian woman adds her seasoning to it..things were getting awfully dull around here before Monada came and started stirring up the shit pot here!
3. There are people on this forum, not one and not Quazi who understand me WELL and appraciate my opinion. "
You still don't have a clue, don't you...
You don't know how much money I earn and you will never know, let's just say I earn enough to have a very comfortable life. But what you fail to understand, again and again, is that 99.9% of people on this planet start a relationship because they love EACHOTHER and not THEIR MONEY. You are this 0.1% for whom money comes first.
Even with your simple English, it should not be that hard to understand, I would think...
And you're free to post your opinion, but I really hope I never meet someone with your attitude as I will be running faster than light. I, and like said 99.9% of others, don't want someone who loves their money. Yes, if I would be 60+ like your quazi, and want a young chick, I would pay for this too. But please don't call it love. It's a contract. But you won't see the differance anyway, so I wasted bandwidth again...
Oh, and you will never be with me, don't worry. For one simple reason: after reading your posts, I have zero respect for you. So I'm this one and only guy who is not dying to meet you ;-)
Oh, and one more thing (and last one). I fullfill my gf all dreams, but with one difference: not because she would leave me if I didn't buy the cloths or vacation (like you would), but because I RESPECT and LOVE her, and want to do this. Do you see the light now: must <> want ?? Your quazi MUST buy whatever you want, or you will leave. I WANT to buy whatever she would like, because I WANT TO. I can't say it clearer than this.
There are a number of reasons that men find themselves here in this forum, looking for an FSU woman. Some of us are here because we tend to find women with whom we have troubling relationships. Some of us tend to gravitate toward opinionated, selfimportant demanding and controlling women, - maybe they remind you of a domineering mother or teacher you had fantasies about. Hard to say.
When you GET such a woman, from the FSU or the west, you have nothing but trouble with her (of course). Relationships break up, she gets your house, etc. etc. etc. etc. - you find yourself HERE (or maybe the less clever in a local singles bar).
And the process repeats.
I wouldn't be with a woman like MONADA, even if you PAID me (and even if she WAS REALLY HOT!!).
Unlike (it seems) you, I'm not one of those into cycles of destructive relationships. There are OTHER reasons that I am here.
You know, also the difference is we will spend in Airfare what the typical Ukrainian makes in 6 months. It's all perception, that we are coming so spending money is going to be the case. Well that all being true and you Snow compare it to our local women, I never bought my ex girlfriends day to day necessities, I didn't buy their cell phones, If I bought them clothes it was for special occasions like Birthdays etc, but I hardly bought clothes it was other more personal items. I surely didn't pay for the grocery bill. That's the expectations of many women in Ukraine today. With the fallacy that we are getting something for this, their time.
As for seeing your lady, you pay for these things, like airfare, taxi's etc. I see women going overboard and like MonadaModo ripping guys off. I wouldn't have the courage to look at myself in the mirror for scamming someone for 5000 dollars. Character knows no nationalities or income level, you either have it or you don't.
Aussieman, please define for us what a High Class Ukrainian Woman is? Or first Please define what Class is? Monada is far from class, I don't even need to see her picture to know that she's just nothing more than a petty thief and couldn't wipe my wifes shoes. Hell I highly doubt that she's married, sounds more like a psychotic sponsorship to me. I sure would like to chat with her ex husband. Oh wait, he'll be posting soon here I'm sure.
I'm still amazed that you guys are catering to this idiot. I'm still waiting for her most informative post about Ukrainian women? Hell the scammer mentality has been played over and over in this forum.