Poor girl, you couldn't express yourself, couldn't bring here what you really mean... May be because of you bad English? But i must admit - mine is not much better either. Anyways will try to say what is on my mind.
You try to say that man should treat his beloved girl and making gifts for her should be pleasure for her? Yes, that's true. It looks miserable when he is collecting bills from restaurants and calculates how much he spent for her taxi...
But girl should never demand it from him, as you do. Respect yourself. If you want such a man, walking wallet - search for him, be happy if you have found - but don't declare your poor thoughts. Your slogan is 'NO MONEY - NO LOVE'. Excuse me, dear?! Love is not about money. Money makes our life really comfortable and blablabla. But I can't imagine myself loving somebody more then other if he is having longer account in bank.
Some things are understandable WITHOUT saying, you know.
When man invites me out for dinner I normally suppose he is to pay.
But I never discuss such things. If he asks for separate bill - it's ok, i pay for myself, no prob, but I make my conclusions and according to this i decide to go on dating with him or not.
If there is my b-day i normally wait for some attention and congratulations.
But I'm not searching in shops for gift which i received to know it's price.
When I'm in relations with somebody I normally suppose to get some gifts from him, I will not resist if he wants to buy me nice dress or pays for both of us to go for holiday.
But I never tell him to do it all if he wants to be with me.
I just look at what he is and how he treats me. I make my choice myself according to all what he is (including money - it's true, because it's good future of our family and children) but not only according to his income.
We may disagree on this but I think a lot more Ukrainian women, of different ilk, read this forum, than we generally consider.
Many read English very well, but are reluctant to contribute to a male forum. For whatever reason, with Monada, the dam broke. And Molekula feels compelled to respond.
I would have expected a letter like the one right above - and I think that both are legitimate.
Molekula,
Why can't I meet a Ukrainian girl like you???? Thank you you for pointing out what a real women is looking
for when they are looking for a partner. The money issue seems to be prevelent and it almost comes as an expectation from girls when a western man comes to meet. I don't come with a stack of cash to buy my way through
to find a girl. If I am to spend money on her, dinners, shows, taxi,.......or even to go shopping..it will come from me as a gift inspired by how I feel toward her, certainly not to buy my way in. Love comes as an emotion based on how you feel toward another and can NEVER be bought. What can be bought is a person's physically being with you and when money stops or girl sees another it will be over.
Molekula, your English is very good, much better than some guys here where I have to turn my head to try to figure out when way is the top!!! I did go in site you mentioned, my russian is so so but I did get what was being discussed...quite an eye opener, makes this forum seem boring!!!!!!!
beemer18, may be you can't meet a Ukrainian girl like me cause I'm not searching for partner in virtual net?
May be some day we meet on vacation somewhere in Spain, Turkey, Cyprus or other beautiful seaside place... then who knows?
You got me - i'm really good (it's not too modest to say such things about yourself.. but it's true), almost perfect, I make my man happy just being in his life, I'm good in everything. I'm unique. And i know this.
But I never pose myself as a auction lot like Monada does - who pays more, gets the prise, nomatter the personality on the buyer. I respect myself; it seems - she doesn't.
I want comfortable life without saving pences on chocolates, I want enought money on my account. But first I want beloved man near me, loving and taking care of me, understanding, and making one with me, cause I wanna do the same - to give him all my soul, all my tenderness to him.
Great if we do it the president-suit while vacation in 7* hotel in Emirates. But if not - I can live happily anyways just being loved and protected.
ps Thanks for complimenting my English - it's not really good anyways. In russian i could express myself much better :-)
I DO have SEX ONLY WITH THE MAN I TRUST AND KNOW GOOD.
I don't have the habit to pass men though my bed and body.
That's why I can allow myself not to use condoms :))) as you know there are many other contraceptives.
Yes, sure, probably for YOU protection from deseases in an important part of sexual life :)))))
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YOU ARE FFFUUUUN< GIRL :))) ) ) if you only understand what you've wrote........... :)) )) )) )
Oh yeeee, Molekula..... on vacation somewhere in Spain, Turkey, Cyprus or other beautiful seaside place you use your condoms to protect from deseases : )) )) )
Ah, you also want a "comfortable life without saving pences on chocolates, I want enought money on my account."
- REEAAALLYYY??????
If your beloved man will not have a pence in his pocket, what will you do, dear, still love him and bring him food from other man, as one lady (I read here) did?
No-no-no... business person is not for you, definitely... just some garson from hotel, or animator, or seller in shop... guys there are so sweet and sexy : )) ) ) ) ) )
Hey, may be some body from this forum whould like to pick you up :)) ) ))
Monada like debates in forums, to extract as much controversy and the worst and best out of people, her point o view may be see and taken too extreme, sometime (like mine ..) is lost in translation, in brief she want to see from a man the willingness to work, succeed, and than to share the spoils with the woman (her) that has help the man’s career.
She is very supportive, a loving partner and also a friend, in regard money she is quite careful how those recourses are spent, as we have plans in life. It is true she has come out of bad relations, but her inner strength has been her blessing, not many women would have the courage that she had in dealing with that issue.
Also she is the most honest woman that I could have wish to find in Ukraine after previous experiences in Kharkov I was wondering if all Ukraine’s women were lost in the dating game (I can share some strange experience there..) .
Finally we are planning to have a life in Australia for a while, and than go back to Europe (I am European born) she want to help in my work and we are debating if is better to live her daughter with relations, not disrupting her life and been in AU in a totally strange environment at her age, we will travel often as I have business interests in UA..
So I wish all the single men on this forum to find what they seeking, and Molekula… in life you never assume, with all respect one thinks that I did find attractive in Monada is her happiness and she is right…we are never bored …..
By the way I am in my mid 40’s, I am not sure where the 60 come from, also I am not disclosing Monada’s age, but some of you need the eyes been checked as a matter of urgency, her age start with a “2”
Thundrdome - you still don’t get it…. I was not trying to explain any scientific data…..read between the lines….. Ciao!
MONADA:
is it really that difficult to understand another person's point of view??...each time somebody comes across with a different view on life,you react like a snake spitting venom and casting scorn on anybody who dares to disagree with you!
You have made your choice...and good luck to you with that,but at least try to understand you don't have a monopoly on viewpoints.
It's a welcome addition to have some ladies posting here,and I've no doubt there is a hell of a lot of useful information to share.Useful information that is Monada.There are times when some home truths need to be told,and as you will have noticed there are no shortage of members willing to do it either!But if all you intend to do is glorify yourself,your life and your choices then this isn't the place to do it.
Respect for each others decisions,choices and goals.......thats what it's about.
Monada, why are you so agitated about condoms??? My suggestion about your unplaned baby were true I suppose from your reaction... I'm not trying to offend you baby, wish him all the best and long happy life, and even respect you for being mother.
/by the way - don't try to provoke me on that site where you posted link on this forum - most of users there are just silly dummies - and you know it yourself cause you can be everything but you are not stupid. First they started to humiliate you then you said them about my answer to you here and of course few of them appeared to throw shit at my side. I prefer to speak to adequate people - it seems here there are more of them. Ïîâåðíóòûå íà òóðêàõ ïèñþõè ñëèøêîì ïðèìèòèâíàÿ êîìïàíèÿ, ÷òîáû ÿ ñíèçîøëà äî îòâåòîâ èì./
About contraception. Your position about such simple and cheep item as condom is really strange!! I hope teenagers are not reading this forum - as you really promote venerial desease and abortions dissemination by what you're saying :-)
Guys you better put it on :-) instead of hoping to fish your buddy out before coming or hoping on hormonal peels, rings or whatever.. Condoms have the highest persentage of protection, don't they?
End of lection :-)
And don't try to offend me by your miserable suggestions conserning my sex-life, Monada :-)
I know myself where how and with who to do or not to do it.
And let me suggest that my sexual life is more emotional then yours as my boyfriend is in his best age, full of energy and experienced enough. But which is more important we love each other - and my activity in bed does not depend on thickness of his wallet today.
Ah Ha
I was not off track after all - Jet-ski
I am usually VERY accurate with personal judgment. You had me a little worried there - but I have been on my own for nearly a month - so - perhaps the rot was starting to set in, all back to normal in 2 days !!!! :-))))
You do sound like you have your life together, are happy and in a meaningful relationship...that is good. Being happy and comfortable with your life is most important then you can go out and make anothers life happy also.
I don't think you are asking for too much and certainly are not expecting anything.....I have a saying,' it's not where you go or what you spend..... it's who your with'. I wish you my best.... maybe that chance meeting in Turkey or Spain...who knows!!!!
How you know - how she look ??
I tried a link address - but no work 4 me - but would u actually think the photos she/it would portray - would be genuine - now that’s the $64,000 question -
mmmmmmmm
Now how come that figure and Monada have a similar ring to them ????????
Your joking - U are saying she hasn't aged well for someone in her late 20's (she is actually 27 according to her profile on that link)
One of us has bad eye-sight - she looks pretty good for a mother with that (Turkish-Caucus blood-line - that should get a reaction)
You must have your sights set to a VERY high level - Jet - goodluck !!!
I will bet all the money in the world - if she did not have a child - she wouldn't/need be looking at ANYONE outside her own country.
Peter you caught that also, did you notice also the copy and paste in bold letters, that's a trademark of a former moron in this forum. Also Monada makes mention of this idiot in another thread, but Monada came along well after the idiot disappeared. With the controversy this Monadamodo is causing now, I high doubt that he/she/it would have taken time to read past threads for knowledge.
I just wonder if this pathetic idiot still has pictures of the lion in his lap, looked like he was ready to crap his pants any moment, and he claimed to be 49 but looked more like 60 in that picture. LOL, Modana is a farce and not a real person, but someone playing in drag, or living their computer life in drag now.
Jet this is semantics, there is no deference here. I mean to say their aren't slick women in Ukraine looking for sugar daddys, isn't any different than in the States. My point why post in this forum, he/she/it adds nothing but irritation to many forum members. No insight into a real woman. She's just bullshit fromt he get go, along with that joke Quasi, funny how she uses that name, then it just happens to pop up in the forum under that name. I would have chosen my own name, not one some bimbo selected for me, at least a real quy would have, but since this is one in the same person, they stuchk the quasi, since I have a hobby of study speach patterns and handwriting analysis, this person mirrors themselves in many was to a former character, especially trying to use the broken english syntax in writing, but totally understands much of the slang used. My wife's difficulties with english in the states is the slang. So to understand it, means you have some fluency which he/she/it/we/they deny. Just another fraud in the forum sucking up air and wasting peoples time.