The last two paragraphs written above (see "To Nasfan", page 1 second from last post) ring loud and clear as to the purpose and mission of this forum. I could not agree more with Nasfan in that the majority of us are here to learn about the journey we will face in trying to find that special person to share our life with.
I have found, by-and-large, that the information presented here has been very helpful and I have learned things that would have taken many trips and much money to learn first hand. I applaud those of you that have taken the time to relate your own personal experiences for the benefit of others. Someday, maybe I too will have some useful first hand experience to share with the next generation of searchers.
Tuesday I leave for Taganrog and my first face to face with a wonderful woman. All aspects of my trip will be facilitated by information I have learned from you members that have offered your experience so willingly, though not always from the same perspective. But that is what makes this forum so valuable. The things everyone says to do or not to do are the cardinal rules that you should not break. The ones that ya'll disagree on, well those obviously can be left up to ones own particular situation.
I thank those who have helped me so much in my endeavors. Mike, your knowledge and wit have made me believe it is possible, even though my goal is slightly different than yours. I am still the hopeful romantic that believes in marriage and hope I will find (or have found) that person who shares my dreams. Nasfan, Jet, Gladiator, Toad, KingArthur, Adman, DavidUSA, et. al. I thank you as well for your advice and wisdom which has prompted me to embark on this journey far more informed and prepared than if I had just hopped on a plane and hoped for the best. I feel optimistic about this woman and hope that I am prepared enough for the impending journey.
I am relatively new to this forum and have posted maybe 20-30 times on various subjects. It was a difficult decision to take on the Martin issue but his attacks on me prompted me to fire back. In hindsight, I really should have just ignored him but there is a side of me that just would not let it go. I think it is sad that a person finds consolation in their life revolving around this forum. This forum is nothing but a tool, a tool to use to reach the real goal of finding that special someone who you will share your life with. Some of you have achieved your goal and have come here to help others. Some still use this to solve problems that have arisen after the fact. Regardless of your reason for posting here, we should all be focused on the precept that this tool should be used for a common goal rather than a battlefield of egos.
I wish to all of you out there the best of luck in your endeavors and hope that we all find the happiness and success we search for in our lives.
Bill:
I'm sure I speak for many when I tell you that my purpose here is to try and help those still looking,and to try and avoid the pitfalls that this journey can bring.Unfortunately in recent times this forum took a decided turn for the worse thanks in no small part to some really intense bitching.......yep you know who I mean!Even with hindsight it was still incredibly difficult to ingnore personal attacks.And should you care to search back through the forum you will see just how many people got sick and tired of it........and thought what the hell am I doing.
Speaking personally,any help I can offer is given freely and without any hidden agenda,whoever is in need only has to ask.........and surely that is the reason for this forum being here isn't it?
good luck navarreman1 i wish you all the success that i have had here meeeting my wife and im sure the others here that have had success wish the same good luck hammer
Trip of a lifetime!!!
(Late post due to problems with forum. Got back 5/24/07)
(Posted here because still cannot create new thread)
I just returned from Taganrog and 1st face to face with my lady. She fulfilled my expectations of her with much the same result of a person trying to take a sip of water from a fire hydrant. She knocked my socks off and rocked my world!
Taganrog is a cute town of a couple hundred thousand on the Sea of Azov. Weather turned unseasonably warm during my visit leaving me stuck with cold weather clothes. Mosquitoes were awful. But I live in Florida so not too terribly different than what I was used to. Except the traffic. Reminded me of Mexico City.
Her family and friends were the best people. All very down to earth and pleasant company. Had a great time and wined and dined like a king for very little money relative to me. Yuriy the translator and agent was the best and always at hand. Used the Ectaco Translator for private discussions and that worked out very well. Had several "Yuriy Free" days so we could tell if we could do it on our own.
Interesting thing about our situation; we spent the first months of our relationship writing to each other at great length. Some of you feel this is a negative thing but if you can maintain a written relationship without other "encumbrances" then you have established a foundation of communication that is of the first magnitude. Everything else is icing on the cake. We communicate very well and we fell in love with each others thoughts and emotions rather than physical or other attributes.
As a matter of fact, things went so well that she said “Da” and we have her family’s blessings to proceed with plans for marriage. (Mike, she is amazing! I know this is not your style but I can live with it.)
Had a romantic day in Rostov and went on cruise of Don River and ate at nice restaurant on banks of Don. Her close friends are photographers and donated 1 day to following us around recording our “moments”. A priceless and generous gift. We now have photos of those precious moments that would have otherwise been unrecorded. I would recommend hiring a photographer or at least a person to take photos during your first meetings. Develop them later if you desire but they are priceless memories. I am trying to set her friend up with a location on FlickrLeech to display their work as repayment for their generosity.
My feelings of success on this trip were confirmed when at SVO2. Russian Inspector found the 4 bottles of vodka bestowed upon me by her father. He said I must have really impressed someone as this was the good stuff. He did not keep any for himself nor ask for a bribe. Very nice man!!!
SVO needs to come out of dark ages. Big international airport with no adequate transportation between the international and domestic terminals. And no A/C. 5 hour layover really sucked!!! Aeroflot bus driver lied about his route. Said to take different bus but then appeared at SVO2 when I was getting out of taxi. Don’t believe the damn Yuriy!!
Bottom line: It was a very good trip. All expectations from months of letter writing confirmed or exceeded. Marriage is on. Visa application in process. Taganrog very nice place with plenty to see and do. She is a woman of high moral standards, impeccable grace and beauty, character, class and intelligence. I hope I can live up to all of her expectations.
I will say that I have been very lucky in my search for the right person. I am not even sure if I made a decision or if this whole thing is simply fate or destiny. There have been too many coincidences that have brought the two of us together to say that fate did not play a role. But the relationship appears sound and has solid foundation and we are confident that language will not be an issue. I am now paying for her English lessons and may send her to the Language Institute in Tagarog if she says she is interested. There is now a period of time where she may benefit from full time English instruction while the visa process progresses.
Thanks to all of you who have been instrumental in our developing relationship. Each of you has played a part, in some small way, in our finding happiness. I thank each of you out there and wish you the same success.
Bill
p.s. On a negative note, I witnessed a man in Atlanta bragging about this being his 3rd trip to Russia and not having much luck. He was trying a lead in Kazan this time. He was wearing what looked like knee length black denim shorts with black socks and brown loafers. He had on a tie-died t-shirt and an old green fatigue military shirt unbuttoned over the t-shirt. Now I am no clothes hound. I was traveling in blue jeans and a pull-over golf shirt and tennis shoes for comfort, but if you are going abroad to “strut your stuff” try to look a little like a peacock and less like a pig. The ladies do their best to look good for us. Spend a little time and effort to dress yourself up a little. God help the women of Kazan
Nope you didn't get lucky, we'll maybe a little, but those who prepare the most are the luckiest. You played it right, did the right things, pretty similar to my experiences. Congrats I hope the future trips are just a wonderful for you.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knowing what you are looking for is key. What I found greatly exceeded my expectations. An exceptional woman and human being. Thanks to everyone for helping make me a very happy man.