I've been wondering about this for a while.
I've read countless girls profiles and i think only 1 out of all of them mentioned that she would like to leave the Country to live elsewhere.
I understand that things have improved over there a lot and quite a lot of these girls are happy to continue living in their homeland.
BUT.... surely 90% + of guys looking for a "Russian bride" have the intention of taking her home to his Country right?
We know that, the girls sure as hell know it, so why is it not mentioned in the profile?
Is it an Agency thing? It's clear that a lot of Agencies have set formats for profiles but it just doesn't make sense to me.
But remember - these women are individuals. They may be willing to relocate in some situations - but the situation has to be right. If you are looking for an earmark for desperate women - who want nothing MORE than to leave - you aren't going to find it. It is mostly a MYTH anyway - that they are so darned desperate to leave. I heard it mentioned again while I was on a Romance Tour though by guys who firmly believed it.
Marriage agencies puch the concept that women are desperate to leave, that Russian guys beat them regularly and that Russian men are terrible husbands and fathers - just to sell WESTERNERS on the idea that these women are easy pickings. Women in the FSU may also encourage you with lines like that . But the reality is that it ISN'T that bad over there. ANd most aren't going to leave unless it is for something PRETTY GOOD.
Baz,
Surely it should be assumed that any girl on agency site is looking to possibly leave country. Whether she actually does or not is another story. I agree with Jet that it would have to be the right scenerio. But I think many are in these sites for a different reasons,
money, attention or just something to do. This makes it very difficult on guys.
many do want to leave but like said above it has to be a good reason my wife wanted to leave and she did does she like here in the usa? yes would she rather live in her on country ? yes as long as i go with her
so are plans are to work her in the usa a few more years the retire in her country i like it there and do read and understand some of langauge(russian,romanian) and i try to study it everyday but sometimes i cant my wife and her son speak romanian when they speak and when we speak its english but from time to time i will speak russian and romanian to them it make my wife very happy when i speak the other langauge
life seems to be alot more simple there and if you have the money to survive then thats good
Thanks guys all interesting points of view.
I can imagine if an Agency had a box to tick in the girls profile that said :
1 : Willing to relocate anywhere
2 : Willing to relocate to (certain countries)
3 : Not willing to leave FSU
Holy shit wouldnt they lose "customers" !!
But still, if a girl made it clear in her profile that she is willing to relocate it would certainly grab MY attention.
I think there is more to this situation that meets the eye.
Baz, if a girl registered with an agency or an international dating site, it is by default that she is ready to relocate. otherewise there are hundreds of their local country dating sites. if she is not ready, well who knows why she registered:)
Hi Olga, yes I understand, but relocating will probably be one of, if not THE biggest decisions in her life. I just find it hard to understand that a woman would not mention it in her profile about what she is seeking in life.
You are saying that by registering on this site that the women are, by default, ready to relocate, right?
And yet the guys above, who obviously have some experience with this say that MOST of the girls DONT want to relocate.
Some (I know of a few myself) want very much to have foreign boyfriends who will visit them a few times a year - and send them something every month. Of course that gets old very quickly for those of us who are serious - but its a dream for some FSU women. Doesn't cost much to sustain themselves and a couple guys (who don't know about each other) means they only have to "work" a few weeks a year. Its called "sponsoring" an FSU lady and it occurs pretty frequently.
Some are truly waiting for their "prince charming", you know, the Richard Gere character who shows up in so many romantic movies. For a long time Pretty Woman was the most popular western movie in the FSU and many women were holding out for a character like THAT to come along.
There are many stories in between - but just because they advertise doesn't mean they are willing to leave.
..... How about this for a loose sort of analogy - I might be willing to post my resume on Monster.com and move to the other side of the country - for a dream job paying six-figures. So I might list myself as "willing to relocate anywhere". But if you offer me an ordinary job - or a job flipping hamburgers at McDonalds - you couldn't move me with a crowbar - DESPITE my claimed willingness to relocate. These women are thinking along the same lines.
But for an ordinary job
Olga, if they are putting their profiles in the wrong place then as you say, then thats misleading isnt it? :)
Put a checklist on the the Fem profile such as :
1 : Willing to relocate anywhere
2 : Willing to relocate to (certain countries)
3 : Willing to shack up anywhere with a Richard Gere type
4 : Willing to shack up anywhere with a Danny DeVito type
5 : NOT wishing to leave FSU
I think many women looking would prefer to stay in Europe. Just so much closer to their homes. It was that way in my case. It was a difficult decision for my wife to come to the states. That's why our courting process took almost two years. It wasn't that she didn't love me, it was a very difficult decision for her to leave the country she had know all her life and come all the way to the United States. I admire her for the fact she took that time to make the decision. Just reinforced to me her seriousness of our relationship.
It goes without saying they all will relocate, just depends on how far that relocation is. Some don't mind coming far away, others would prefer to stay closer to home in Europe.
How right you are jet the girls ive been with have reeled back in horror the thought of leaving mum and granny -------yes it is a myth they all want to leave ------the russian bad guy syndrome though -well i dunno .
If ever present russian guys 70% of em much prefer a vodka that to feed the family -i cant say ive ever met you know -a great majority of good family orientated russian guys .
they dont treat woman good .
mine crosses the street to aviod em her friends do too --------so there is a vast element of truth on the ''russian guy '' nasty type scenario !
Put it this way after what ive seen mate id hate to have been bone russian bird and spend life trying to find a good apple in the basket of russian guys - i think over time a bird id find one buy she be a year long hunt i reackon .
they do exadurate the bad guy element a lot but it is thier certainly - i think the agencies paint it 99% all bad guys where i think in reality its 70% of em.
Baz i agree with you 100000% yes i hear you somebody said ''warranty with the bird '' yes in a way my bloody oath .
HEY WE CAN STAY AT HOME FOR NOTHING --CAN'T WE !!!( IF VISAS WERE DEAD EASY DO YOU REACKON THESE BIRDS ID BOARD A PLANE PAY ALL THE FARES JUST TO MEET US ???
It always amazes me why WE have to go to them !! about time they came to us i reackon !
let them sample all the costs and you aussies on hear must know just how hard/ expenso it is us to get russian visa --
i seen last trip at singapore russian bird aged 25 and her brother going to see thier mum in melbourne they got visa family helped a lot but this bird said to me jeses what men go through the grief / the money / the papers to come to russia seek a bird she said now i realise --all the effort grief that goes into it .
well she said the birds in russia got a lot to learn about being thankfull .
she was shocked at the thought men go through all this grief --only to end up at times with a head case at the other end .
I asked her opinion the situation men going to thier -her answer was yes for all effort they should be treated like gold .
they must take the 2 main factors into account
(A) MOST HAVE NO IDEA THE HUGE COSTS INVOLVED HEADING FROM AUSSIE TO RUSSIA FARES / ACCOM / ETC THE UNKNOWN , SOME DANGER !
(B) HEY WE DONT HAVE TO BE THIER --------ITS FAVOUR MODE ALL THE WAY SOON AS WE LEAVE THE AIRPORT IN AUSSIE !
Show me 1 russian / ukraine bird that upon us arriving says hello darling so glad your hear and you have put all that time cost / travel to see me --darling she says its my shout $$ your stay ????
we not going to hear it are we??? ive never heard it in my time -------they on the bite in 100 different ways moment we give that first hug !!
no bullshit to that if i was starting over again there would be many things id not entertain
woman who can't give committ at once!!!!
and with at least for 30% of lifes costs can't pull her weight --- well she wont be with me thats a fact .
the sugar daddies are a fast fading race .
Why should they not put thier bit into the pot ?? they want you as much as you want them well a decent bird will try .
but if you arrive to a ''brokey '' well give your bank a ring because you have just taken on a nightmare .
What happened to Darlink?????? I guess just by showing up you should be treated like gold? That's called Narcissim. You earn being treated like gold, not just by showing up. Hell you want to be treated like gold send a scammer a few thousand bucks and she'll love you in three days.
Wow getting played a little, many things you wouldn't entertain? What a joke.
My rules mate man with a quid makes the rules respect is like courtesy use it --its free no really sorry nasfan - to many guys get the short end of the stick .
the birds really should you know put a lot more into it i think -i do ok but you know certain things i doubt i will be happy about ---treated well just showing up hey its a long way to this strange place = fair go ay !
DARLINK IS VERY GOOD never fear smith is hear lol lol
I have been involved in this "business" off and on since 2000. I call it "business" because I've spent a lot of money on correspondence, flowers and trips and still do not have a serious relationship with a woman. Companies have made lots of money thanks to me. I have been to Russia twice and Ukraine twice. It's very easy for me to see that women from the FSU are happy with their homeland and probably don't want to leave their country for a guy. In my opinion, it's going to be tougher as time goes on, for these women to leave their country. Life really isn't that bad over there. You won't find little old ladies standing in line for hours to buy bread. That's just a myth for those of you who have not been to the FSU. DVD players, cellphones, fast-food chains, nice clothing and other western items are among the things that are easily available...and actually, affordable. Communism is getting deeper into ancient history and it's easy to see the results. The economy is getting better. The women are very close with their families and friends and spend lots of time together. Many times, women I have corresponded with have cut off communication with me because they found someone in their city. Divorce is high there, but it's also the same in the USA where I live. I think that the "FSU men are all alcoholics" may be true somewhat, but that statement is a selling tool. Add all of these things up and draw your own conclusion. Right now, I'm hanging by a thread on this venture. I'm close to "retiring" from this part of the world. If FSU women are proud of their home and don't want to leave, I think that's great. I don't "hope" that women from the FSU experience difficult and frustrating times because it could work to my advantage. I don't wish bad things on people from any country. What good is that? I don't need an FSU woman, I need a woman who will love me for who I am. I don't care if she is next door, two hours away by car or across the ocean. There will be certain guys who will get lucky with an FSU woman, but the odds may get tougher as times goes on.