Well the woman I had given up hope on in Moldova suddenly called me up about 3 weeks ago (after 2.5 months had passed) rather late at night a little drunk and sort of asked me to call her back.
I called back and had a few language problems - She was also a little incoherant and I'm sure there was a little alchohol there somewhere for "Dutch Courage". Anyway she decided it wasn't such a wise idea and hung up due to the language problems.
Well this had me shocked, excited, confused etc so there was only one thing for it. I called her back the next day. She was pleased that I'd called again but still couldn't get alot of english out - She could just about say a few simple things but understanding what I was saying to her was not something she'd given a lot of thought to obviously..
I found out that she speaks Russian, Romainian and Italian and said I'd call her back. I don't think she understood the "I'll call you back" bit because the next 2 days I missed a call at about the same time from a "ID Withheld" number (never heard the mobile ringing) and not many people have my number.
So I got a interpreter! - Great that went down a treat!. She couldn't beleive her luck when I called back and there was someone there to translate what was being said.
Now the thing is she's 34 and I'm still in my 20's. I did tell her that I'm 27 and that was a little shocking for her. It appears she's got used to the age thing as she made it quite obvious the next time we spoke that she was waiting for me to make a definate move (dinner invitation worked a treat - she travels to the Uk every few months so we've agreed to wait until then).
I'd like to know your thoughts about the situation - She is older but I find her very attractive and very talented. I also thought she was 26 when I first noticed her which was why I was so drawn to her. The thing is she also has a 7 yr old son (this doesn't worry me in the slightest - I love kids).
Your thoughts? - Am I taking on to much? - Is this a wise idea?
Like I said, I am extremely attracted to this woman for reasons that I cannot even find words to describe.
When I was in my late teens and early twenties, I was attracted to older women just as I am attracted to twenty year olds now that I am in my mid-thirties. When I was 19, I was extremely proud that I was invited in the UK by a 25-yr old woman with all expense paid. I never gave a thought to the age difference until I was in my early thirties. That's when it hit me and I started looking at the young ones from another point of view.
A woman typically ages worse than a man. But, then there are exceptions. If she is 34 and looks 26, then this is a very good indication she may be the exception. If her age was taking a toll on her, at the age of 34, you'd be able to tell.
It's better to be with an older, beautiful woman than an ugly, fat kitten.
A woman with a child I would never consider. Kids are trouble and if they are not yours ...
If the child is not a problem for you, then go for it.
Language barrier is exacerbated on phone conversations, it may not be so bad when you meet her. Make sure she understands she'll have to learn English. Romainian is a commonly spoken language in Moldova due to the proximity with Romania. Italian and Romanian are very similar languages also. I have seen women from Moldova and they are astonishing.
Yes I would have to say she is the exception - Actually I'd say she's literally THAT one in a million. As I said when Ifirst saw her I thought she couldonly be 26 - Someone that was with me also said the same thing. We were both shocked to find out she was actually 34!
I don't have a problem about her son - At first I was a little deterred but it's the same woman I originally liked right? - All that changed was what I knew about her. I'd accepted the age thing, so I got used to the idea of her son too.
I've never seen Moldovan women so I can't say about what most of them look like (though I have heard that there's a lot of beauty's in Moldova and the Ukraine). I find this woman fascinating - Not just because of her looks, but because of her career and a few other things besides. Is it true that Moldovan women don't shake hands but they simply nod their head instead? - If it's true I gotta say thats strange!
Anyway she's agreed to a dinner date when she's next in the UK. I hope the language thing won't be as bad. Talking to someone through an interpreter is a little awckward. You can't really sit there and say "I find you very attractive" whilst your looking in the interpreter's direction LOL. I get the impression I'm going to have to take the interpreter to dinner aswell when I meet the Moldovan (But hey, the interpreter's not bad for a Bulgarian! - I have no objections to being seen with 2 gorgeous women!).
Like you said, if she's 34 and still looking 26 then the chances are she's going to keep her looks for a god while so I'm happy to chase after this one. I wouldn't normally look at an older woman though..
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but don't forget to consider this woman's judgement. She reappeared after several months of silence. She also used poor judgement in doing it under the influence. Best advice I can think of - contact many more women and then see if you still feel the same way about this woman a little way down the road. If you do, great.
Sure, if you want a prune. She sounds passionate and thats good.
Age is just a number if u ask me. In the viking days it was the norm to marry a woman 10 years older than u. But u live now. Now its sosially very important that a woman has smooth tight skin, perky breasts. Thats the advantage of a younger woman if you ask me.That and men that are seeking their youth back half way in a mid-life crises. Totally banal, but what society thinks, no matter how banal, is important. Hard to be a rebel, requires stubborn guts. Personally I feel that if you are marring somone that could have been you're daughter or mother, then you've crossed an unfortunate boundary, getting a bit fishy, smelly and pervers.
I never said anything about marrying her! - I said she's accepted a dinner date for the next time she's in the UK, but I never said anything about marriage (though several people I know think it may be heading in that direction because she's from Moldova). Marriage isn't something I'm thinking about though I haven't ruled it out - Who knows what might happen!.
At the moment I just wanna meet this woman and find out more about her!
Norway dude, wake up in 21st century. Che Gevara is dead. He was wiped out many years ago. There are no rebels anymore. Where are you getting all this sociological fuzz? You stubborn James Dean, you make us all jealous. Every guy that I know likes much younger women. Guys who married after college are stuck with aging cows, 2-4 kids and long live boredom. I see a lot of unhappy souls finding escape in long work hours, taking kids to soccer games and the like.
Attraction to youth is at the DNA level and has nothing to do with sociological patterns. For some weird reason all creatures from the tiniest to the hugest have the tendency to make sure they pass their genes successfully to the next generation. To ensure that their genes will survive, living creatures have the tendency to mate with the ones who look the strongest and healthiest and thus the most likely that their genes will survive. Youth is associated with strength, stamina, and health. The attraction is at a level that you cannot control, no matter how renegade you think you are.
Look it's my personal view. As a father I don't want a sexual partner and spiritual companion as old as my daughter. That's wierdo stuff if you ask me. I don't even feel the need to justify this.
As far as the Darwinism goes, "survival of the fittest", let me ask you this wtrav. Who is the fittest man in modern society?
Is it the black dude in outer bongo land that sires about 100 kids with 80 different women? Stricktly Darwinism speaking it is. Others argue that the black dude is not top, fittest doesn't mean no. of CHILDREN, it means POWER. Bush is the fittest. Others say no, Bill(Microsoft) is the fittest because he is the RICHEST. Others disagree, it's Ricky Martin because he's the most POPULAR with the girls.
Just what makes you a survivor in modern civilization? If you tell me once more that it's something to do with blank heads giggling constantly with banal humour, or that thing of tight skin and perky breasts, well I might just give me a heart attack from the laughter.
Perhaps fittest means Ms Universe (muscles) not miss World (beauty). Perhps you should concentrate on body builder woman and marathon runners, and check how old their grandparents and family became to be sure you have the fittest DNA.
Turboz, Fittest means the person who has the spirit who is strongest. Do you give a damn if the kids of the future look like you. No but perhpas it is more cool if they have your spitit, your thoughts, are a little like you. With an older woman your spirit can grow. Those going for youngsters, well they get what they asked for. Turboz, respect man. But you're not talking marriage. In marriage you need a permanence dimension. Something to think about when you get older.
In fact darker men are considered more attractive among many women because tan skin is associated with health (you are pale when you're sick right?). And, you cannot deny that size does matter or that the younger is generally healthier than the older. Bush may be very influential and Bill Gates may be extremely rich and Ricky Martin very cute. When it comes down to the molecular level, there is only one factor, i.e. pass your genes successfully to the next generation. There is no influence, no money and no fame that can substitute this need. Sure there are lots of influences but they are on the surface. The real need is far below the skin level. Why you think many people who seemingly have everything that would be satisfying from the society's point of view are depressed and unhappy?
Thanx for the respect!
No I'm not talking about marriage to this woman but I've not ruled it out as a general option. She's made contact with me after 2.5 months so I figure she's done it for a reason. Maybe life in Moldova isn't as happy as it used to be - I don't know.
Anyway she's agreed to come out to dinner with me so I guess I'll find out more about her then. She seems decent enough as when I asked her out to dinner she said yes but id didn't have to be anything special - She would be happy just to sit on the beach with a can of coke! (Though if thats the case I'll find the best god damn restaurant in town! - She won't forget me in a hurry!).
I do quite like older women. They seem so much more mature and in general they seem to be more serious about their relationships especially when they're foreign!. I've lost interest in the british women as they seem to like playing the field to much. My only problem now is the interpreter - She's female, 29 yrs (approx), Bulgarian and she's given me several indications that she's interested in me herself!. Needless to say when I take the moldovan to dinner the interpreter will need to come too so at least if things go badly with the moldovan I will have already taken the interpreter out aswell!!!
LOL I have no objections to being seen with both these women at the same time! (The moldovan is the nicest looking but the interpreter is nice too and she has a nice personality!)
Wtrav, so bascially your role model is the black dude in outer-bongo land who sires 150 children with a hundred different dark-skinned teenager (=healthy) women. That is the key to happiness... .. .. .
He is top rung on your pyramid. He is a Man who you envy and strive with your every sinew to immitate. I mean it's no secret that black are more healthy, stronger and faster than white. You have a point there. Why didn't I see this before.
In the 17 and 18th century all men and woman of wealth and class want around in white powdered faces and wiggs, because this was supposed to be attractive. In fact it was so important that they didn't bathe or wash more than once a year. The animal smells where considered attractive. These where your great great great great grandfathers.
Whilst I'm not really attracted to the interpreter she is quite an attractive woman in general and she's got a nice personality and is very approachable!. I almost have to use dynamite to get her back out the door after calling Moldova!
Still prefer the Moldovan though!. I can't explain what it is about her but I just found myself hopelessly drawn to her and THEN I heard her sing! - There was no hope for me after that. She's fascinating andd when I say that I mean it. I've never seen another woman like this in my life!
Will post more after I've called her again tonite..
Just like your other postings you take a piece of information and manipulate it until it fits your agenda. Science is based on facts not on undocumented assumptions. A white guy or gal with clean, bright, well rested, brilliant looking face looks much healthier than a black man or woman. The issue is not a comparison of the different characteristics of the white and black race. There are many factors that influence how we react and to whom we are attracted to. Inevitably we gravitate to the youngest, healthiest and strongest. This is caused by forces that reside in our brain cells and are not controllable and have not been explained. This is proven fact of science. You can twist and manipulate every detail to produce groundless conclusions that are based on nothing more than fluff, but the fact remains the same. You need to rethink your tactics. Good luck!
'Guns, Germs and Steel'by J. Diamond, is the education you guys are looking for.
As far as genes go...we barely understand them. Nonetheless, we do practice 'selective breeding' and have since year zero.
In my opinion, there is a sweet spot of about 27 to 33 for middle class American women; too young and she's too 'empowered about herself' to be good mother.
There are exceptions; character, as always. I would think the older woman is an advantage in many ways. Benjamin Franklin sang the praise of older women, back when wearing powder and wigs was meant to obscure age, among other things.
Age aint easy, full of potential, or passionate about fantasy. Its more real, right?