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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Gentlemen - Welcome to the Real World Author Post Vee4ouR Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 4:50:49 AM   I suspect I will get some flak for this and am sure there will be lots of counter argument and comment. Having read many, many comments on other posts I felt compelled to create a new thread in an attempt to bring some common sense to the table. 1. Eastern Europe is not another planet inhabited by alien beings with a totally different outlook on life 2. It is not even vastly different in terms of culture or history, only just over 100 years ago (a blink in the historical eye) the Caucasian peoples of Europe were happily sharing art, music, architecture, science, philosophy and beating hell out of each other under the leadership of a bunch of Royals who were all related to one another via Queen Victoria. If you are British you have more in common with white Russians than you do with the Spanish or Italians. 3. The women of Eastern Europe are not all subsistence farmers shackled to ploughs and desperate to be rescued from their plight at all costs. The ones that are won't have the time or money to be registered with dating agencies. You can find the same mix of education, aspiration, hopes, fears, dreams, cunning, conniving, honesty and dishonesty in the high street of your own town. 4. Certainly the economic situation is worse where they live, the dream of everyone being as well off as each other has been replaced by a fledgling economy where the disparity between rich and poor is much more pronounced but I can find people in equally bad financial positions just down the road. 5. These are dating sites pure and simple, they hold the same pitfalls and opportunities as any other dating site. The same proportion of female gold diggers and male liars and deviants as you'll find on Match.com 6. The majority of ladies on these sites are here because they think they will meet someone kind, industrious and with better prospects of a secure life for them and their children. That is not a bad thing, it doesn't mean they are mercenary or deperate. 7. These sites are not a place to find a cross between a bread winner, domestic servant and a baby factory. The ladies can be treated badly without leaving their home towns. TOP TIPS - collected wisdom and good advice from other threads a. If you are looking for a pen pal say so, dating is commonly believed to involve meeting face to face so if you just want to exchange letters with a lady (or lots of ladies) be honest about it. b. If you are looking for cyber sex join Adult Friend Finder where you will find lots of like minded people and cam, call and instant message your way to ecstasy. Same site if you want one on one "no strings action", you don't have to travel to get free sex! c. If you are contacted by or are contacting glamour models half your age think very carefully about it. There is less stigma attached to young women marrying older men in the East but that is not where you live is it? d. If you are thinking about pre-nuptual agreements you are probably American and definitely planning to fail. Pre-Nups are just a joke in Europe (all of Europe) and associated with failing "celebrities" who marry simply to get a few more column inches out of the marriage and subsequent divorce. e. Don't lie about your circumstances, income, lifestyle or character. Don't post photos of yourself taken 10 years ago when you had hair and for God's sake don't send the woman of your dreams pictures of your genitals; its not nice and gives us all a bad reputation. f. Don't be rude, if you are going to reject a contact or break one off be honest about your reasons but try to think how you feel when you are blown out, be nice. g. And don't forget that a lot of the ladies use agency mail accounts and offices, do you really think that they don't compare notes? Get Real!! And finally ........ It's not all doom and gloom, the smart guys are here coz they know the secret (not the one about positive thinking and the universe delivering) which is; the ladies of Eastern Europe are more inclined to see the family unit as the centre of the universe. They are more inclined to see the man as bread winner, protector and partner. They are less likely to view their man as a sperm bank to provide children as fashion accessories to be looked after by a nanny while Mummy gets on with her life outside the family. But be warned, they will have great expectations that you will play your traditional part and put the family at the centre of your universe too. If you are prepared to do that and have realistic expectations you will (probably) find what you are looking for. Good Luck! skiired Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 7:44:17 AM   I agree with you, you shouldn't get any flak for this post. With this kind of outlook you should be clear about what you want, what to expect. "But be warned, they will have great expectations that you will play your traditional part and put the family at the centre of your universe too." If anyone dosent think this is true you are doomed right from the get go ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 8:09:51 AM   Vee4ouR This is one of the best posts I've read on here. Vee4ouR Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 9:15:28 AM   Aww thanks guys, I'm filling up :) Seriously though too many posts on here from guys who don't seem to have given a moments thought to any of the above. Was starting to wonder if it was me that had dropped in from the "Farside" js Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 3:01:56 PM   I agree. great post and from my limited experience VERRRRRRRRRY TRUE. I have met some very nice girls in ukraine (just a few) so i ma sure there are many . guys need to have reasonable expectations and go there hammer6832003 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2007 8:32:04 AM   i agree 100% couldnt have said it better. it should be all should follow and there wouldnt be the problems that a lot of people are having when i went i had a certain things i looked at and even thought twice adn 3rd time about what i was doing and the woman i found i wanted to make sure about everything. she as well as i did some very deep soul searching before we decided to get married and her and her son came to the u.s. i thing everyone should read what you have posted great job hammer beanstobe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2007 3:52:02 PM   Vee4ouR, I agree with your comments about the women, family virtues and expectations of what we as foreign men are expected to deliver to them in terms of family being at the centre of our life. But your history is way far out too over simplistic. For example if I go for a night out in Chernivitsi, I meet ethnic Romanian women born and bred in Ukraine (or, if u like, ancient empire of Moldova). Yet when I meet ethnic German or ethnic Hungarian across the border in Romania, I can tell you that they stick out as a sore thumb (and say that they feel that way). One thing for sure: these ethnic groups tolerate each other but do not understand, mix or intend to mix with each other, which dates back 500 years; or in other words: - germans/hungarians/romanians do not like Russians and vice versa - germans and hungarians tolerate but do not understand romanianas or moldovans - romanians and ukranians joke about moldovans This is in part why, Ukraine is ethnically mixed and politically divided. And then you get to central asia republics and caucasus: - Tadjik are not liked by uzbeks - Uzbeks do not like krgyz - turkistan people are a law to themself - georgia is not liked by russia. - etc. Vee4ouR, much apparent similarity is hidden by many historical conflicts. At least that is my humble three year present work experience in this small area of the world of eastern europe to central asian republics. Much history, which is part of the joy of being here. aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2007 9:56:34 PM   Agree about this ethnic dislike business. My Hungarian parents do not like Russians and they shot me down over the idea of me even considering a Russian mail order bride..such a thing would not be accepted by them, but I am alienated from them and do my own thing and I am 43 and don't need approval from my family to do anything and if they don't like what I do, then they can blow that out of there asses! Polish don't seem to like Ukrainians either, my Polish friend has great dislike for them and thinks UA women are nothing but gold-diggers and liars and would not trust them as far as he could throw them! He calls Ukainains greedy, money hungry bast>>>>! westerngent44 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2007 4:28:27 AM   Hi,i'm just new to the forum,first day infact.what a great thread to start me off.i'm in contact with 3 russian ladies through e mail.i used a site called russian euro.com.i will read as much as i can,and listen to all you experiened gents. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2007 6:20:12 AM   Welcome westerngent44, lots of good information on this forum,good search facility,and numerous good members prepared to help.if you can't find the answer you are looking for don't be afraid to ask. Good luck with your search. gladiatorUK skiired Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2007 7:59:27 AM   Russian mail order bride????? Are you kidding? Get out of 1995 and welcome to 2007. Good luck westerngent, educate yourself before you go and I assure you it will pay off Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Gentlemen - Welcome to the Real World
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