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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > These women will use you and leave you Author Post tjh Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 2:42:52 PM   I have known many FSU women, and married one of them. I treated her like a queen. I loved her to the depths of my being. My wife split when she found a wealthier guy than me, and I bought her a new car, house etc. She was happy until she realized she could have MORE with some other guy. She was living in a crappy apartment on her parents sofa when I met her. I was a big step up for her, but just the next step. I am convinced that the depravation these women suffered living in the Soviet Union has scarred them permanently. My wife and other FSU women I have known are like drug addicts about money. They are using it to fill some hole in their soul, and there will never be enough. Money is their god. It's a lousy foundation for marriage. I know six men whose Russian/FSU wives left and they were all dumbfounded and devastated. They thought it was love, but they were wrong. It's about money, not love. I'm done with these women. They are nothing but bad news. westerngent44 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 3:44:40 PM   thank you for your honesty,you've just helped me from making the same mistake.i'm just new,only joined,but i've read enough already to make me think again about my quest in the fsu.women are all the same today............flash the cash get the gash.........no money no honey. xtc11 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 3:53:03 PM   tjh i think your very sad experience is more common than many people realise though i suppose somebody will say they have been happily married to a russian lady for so many years. In my limited experience i am inclined to agree with you , i guess i am no expert on this as i have only been to ukraine to visit ladies on 3 seperate occasions. I have not been to Russia so i am not in a position to judge russian woman mentality. I think ukraine woman though is similar in temperement to sicilian woman an an explosive sound waiting to go off. They seem to to go through the menopause and volcanic activity about every 7 to 14 days as well. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 4:21:29 PM   You are your six men should be happy that some nice intelligent ladies gave them a years of their lives. FSU women have no holes in soule. Be sure. To live with man, get from him whatever he is able to give is a natural behavior for any woman. And western ladies are more peofessional in that that FSU. I think your wife was just too much for you. Do find smth siplier in your pwn country. Balvennie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 6:42:27 PM   Wow Monada! Call me old-fashioned, but I still firmly believe that marriage is supposed to be for life, and is supposed to be based on love, respect, trust, and the strong desire and expectation to spend the rest of your lives together. Condoning women who marry for money, and saying that getting from him whatever they can is natural behaviour for any woman, is completely cynical. I pray to any higher being listening that you're wrong. No man should be happy that a "nice intelligent lady" gave her some years of their life, only to leave him as soon as she found someone with more money. I'm not convinced that you were being serious - maybe you just like to stir things up on here? I'm sure there are a lot more of these unscrupulous women in Eastern Europe, because in the West, women at least have many opportunities to make good money on their own, without having to marry to improve their life. In Eastern Europe these opportunities are few and far between. I don't blame a woman from the FSU for wanting to improve her life, but it should be in all areas (e.g. emotional, romantic, environmental), not only financial. Marrying a man just for his money, with the intention of leaving him after a few years, is just using him. It's wrong in every way imaginable. Any woman who would willingly do such a thing doesn't have a hole in her soul - she simply doesn't have a soul to begin with. Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 10:38:55 PM   Oh she's being serious, the Ukrainian women I have met had this same mentality unfortunetly. When I read this Monada woman's posts I just cringe and remember the awful women I have met, she reminds me of them. It's almost like they think a man should just hand over all of his hard earned money to them without question, for gifts, paying for everything and anything they need and giving them money whenever they ask for it. All of course just for the pleasure of them being in your very presence and actually being "interested" in you. They also except it even though they are not serious about marrying you, not actually caring about you or in showing you any interest, or ever having any intent to sleep with you. All of these women I've met have been out for money truly while hiding behind the guise of wanting "a relationship, love and a family." I've heard it all before and have been tricked, lied to and conned so many times now it's almost funny (if you can't laugh at it what can you do?) Before I get jumped on by others who will say somehow "it's all your fault" and "not all Ukrainain women are like that" I would like to say I am not a keyboard romeo and not a sex tourist. I went into this because I want to have love and a relationship period and I really want to believe it when I hear that there are some actual good geniune Ukrainian women out there looking for love and not the almighty buck. I really do want to believe it but after all of my experiences (not to mention hearing other men's experiences) I'm sorry if it's something I find hard to believe anymore. I feel your pain for what happened to you TJH, I'm sorry man. It's bad enough to getted screwed over by a gold digger women you only met but to get it after you marry one of them is really bad. tsr05 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/8/2007 11:41:54 PM   i don't think RW nor UW are bad news. it sounds to me some members have had bad luck. how long did you know them before marrying them? how much time did you spend getting to really know them? how about the 6 friends that also were "devastated". that's a pretty amazing statistic that you know 6 other men who all "dumbfounded 'and' devastated". hmmm...there's some other RW forum sites around that have many fine examples of good relations, you just need to look around and talk to more people than just your 6 acquaintances. I think you need to look at things objectively despite how this may be very upsetting - it still does not change what is actual vs. what is perceived. sandipan11 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 4:48:22 AM   Hi MONADA I think marriage is good institution where people learn a lot of experiences, share a lot and help each others to be happy. Obviously there will be lot of pain and sacrifices also. If according to u "FSU women have no holes in soul. Be sure. To live with man, get from him whatever he is able to give is a natural behavior for any woman. And western ladies are more professional in that that FSU. " Then what is logic behind getting marry. Two things we can do 1. Instead of giving wife prospect, we can call it my registered prostitute. Or. 2. We can keep woman as you keep pets in your house....If anyone want to offer better food they can move for them as a pets OgdenDave Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 6:42:51 AM   tjh, I married a fellow American and she riped my soul out, and took me to the bank. Dont just beat all the women of the FSU because you got hurt. Any woman from any place in the world can and will hurt you, IF YOU PICK THE WRONG ONE. I have met many wonderful women on these sites and have met quite a few in person. They are regular people just like the rest of us. No better or worse. Balvennie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 6:49:20 AM   I get the feeling that "New Money Mentality" (NMM) is responsible for a lot of these women's attitudes. In recent post-communist years, they have been exposed to a lot of men with a lot of money, almost always gained easily and illicitly. These men throw their money around in blatant demonstration of their wealth, buying cars, apartments, and expensive gifts for their numerous mistresses, none of whom they are serious about. This 'easy-come-but-don't-take-it-seriously' attitude can lead women losing sight of what's important in life, and to have a false perspective of the true value of earned money, as well as commitment. This theory works for women who marry for money as well as for women who scam. These women will never be happy, and will ultimately find themselves alone. However, I know for a fact that not all FSU women are like this. I feel for any man who suffered as a result of meeting one of these mercenary women, but there are genuine ones out there. My advice is keep your eyes open, your objectives realistic, think with your head and not any other part of your anatomy, and don't use money to impress. If she likes you for what you have (e.g. designer suits, Rolex watches, 60ft yacht, portfolio of property, brace of Ferraris, etc.), she will not be thinking about true love or lifetime commitment. So if you have these things, keep them secret (don't lie about it, just underplay it) until you're married - it will be a nice bonus for her. If you don't have them, chances are you'll find someone who loves you for who you are (although if you have absolutely nothing, you probably shouldn't be considering finding a woman in the FSU, as it's a pretty heavy financial undertaking). The happiest East-West marriages I've seen are with average income husbands. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 8:23:02 AM   GREAT. 1. The man with mentality and level will never ever discuss any woman, nor matter, FSU or other else on any forum. 2. Those who are here, and wives left them - it's all they deserve. 3. Western women - they want money from men the same as FSU women do. 4. I know a lot of western men whose westen wives took not only money from accounts, but even furniture from house. 5. So, now you tell me how horrible and materialistic ukrainian ladies are. All you discuss in this topic is shit for loosers. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 8:30:37 AM   I forgot to tell that your western wives also do love to take husband's money and leave children instead : ) )) I knew a lot of these stories. If you are looser and wester lady doesn't want you - the FSU woman won't want also. Ukraine is not a poor country, keep it in your mind. And we do have a lot of rich people here. Another story that money in UA are not clean and to rise business you need more than in western country - good political conections. Well, but most of you here are not higher that ordinary middle class men. so what you are talking about judging our women??? WHO YOU ARE TO JUDGE US????!! tjh Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 10:27:34 AM   Monada, you sound like a classic negative stereotype of a Russian woman; arrogant, ungrateful and cruel. Learn to spell for christ's sake. This woman ruined my finances and my life (For a while anyway). Nobody deserves what she did to me. Let me tell you some of the other things she did... 1) Got caught stealing from her job. 2( Had a DUI with a .24 BAC level. 3) Committed adultery in our house, in our bed with the rich guy she found. 4) Took as much money as was possible out of our bank account before she left. 5) Smashed my car into the garage causing major damage to both. This was and is a nightmare. However the law of Karma, or God seems to have caught up with her. Her rich guy dumped her. Those guys are often capable of having any woman they want and she didn't make the cut. Now she is a custodian at the local high school. Her lawyer said she was destitute at the divorce hearing. She screwed up and she knows it. My lawyer had just finished with another case where the Russian wife had been posting nude and semi- nude photos of herself on the internet. Her unsuspecting husband found out through a co-worker who saw the pictures on the web. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 11:21:54 AM   Why men here are sure that rich man doesn't deserve or can't meet the true love????? most of you want to protect themself from saying "I have nothing"???? To have own house, work and some car for western man means to have nothing in my eyes of FSU lady. bcs to get that is easy in your countries. You don't need to be smart or strong personality. but to get wealth with "designer suits, Rolex watches, 60ft yacht, portfolio of property, brace of Ferraris, etc" (as one of you said here) - that meant to be smart, hardworking, goal orientated, ambitious, strong, able to loose and recover and much much more. ********* that's why I, Woman, say you: I will RESPECT and LOVE this MAN from all my heart, till the last breath. Sure, that doesn't mean that I'm able to love ANY successful man. I will choose the one to love from top level. I am not able to love looser... not able to love average man... that's pity... that's hard, beleive me... but in my eyes the word MAN is closly connected to meaning SUCCESS. If you are not hardworking and successful - you are not men in my eyes of FSU woman. Balvennie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 12:08:30 PM   Monada, you're as guilty as the rest of us for making judgements (and I don't mean your judging of Western men). I bet there are plenty of FSU women who would vehemently disagree with your notion that it's natural and acceptable for women to get whatever they can from a man and leave them after a few years. With a few exceptions, most of what is said on here is commentary of personal experiences, and general advice, not judgements. And unless I'm mistaken, this is a forum for exactly such purposes. Yes, there are those with bad experiences (both Western men and Eastern women), and sometimes their stories come across as sweeping judgements. Those of us with at least a modicum of common sense will understand that every story has 2 sides, and every nation has good and bad people. I've seen plenty of happy and successful East-West marriages, and I've met and know personally plenty of FSU women who are absolutely genuine. I've also met some who definitely aren't. Nevertheless, my worst relationship experiences were with Western women, so whatever anyone says, I'd rather have a woman from the FSU any day! By the way, I think it's good to have the voice of a FSU woman on here, however provocative she might be ;-) Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 2:06:29 PM   Tjh, I agree with Monada and other posters here. Man, blame yourself too. It is not Russian, American, Eastern, western women. you had problem with a particular one. she could be from anywhere. and we did not hear her side f story yet:) do not generalize. people are people everywhere. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 3:19:12 PM   I think tjh's problem can be summed up in one sentence he wrote. "My wife split when she found a wealthier guy than me, and I bought her a new car, house etc." For a marriage or any other loving relationship to work out - two people have to become one. You never made that step. You talk about buying her things as if she was a pet or a servant who did things for you in return for you buying things for her. If you base your relationship on the things you BOUGHT for her - well of COURSE there will always be someone who can buy more. But if your relationship is based on mutual love and respect - you realize that you didn't buy HER anything - you bought it for YOU (or more plainly - your other half). If she is getting your full love and respect and the relationship is BUILT on that - she will never find anything better with someone else. You can NEVER "BUY" yourself a wife (who will be true to you anyway). You can only love and respect one. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 3:23:47 PM   Well, if you want a sample of absolutely genuine woman - it's MONADA : )) ) I, Ukrainian Woman, lie to other people less then you, men, lie to yourself. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 3:25:16 PM   Well, jetmba, BRAVO! TRAVELLERVA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2007 3:40:45 PM   MONADA is correct to a point, so is tjh and jetmba... You can buy love but you get what you buy. It is important to be able to afford a decent living standard. But what I have found is that FSU women, like women in the western world want a MAN that acts like a MAN, not a wussy. You're suppose to be the head, she will be the neck that supports the head. You lead, she will follow. Have respect for her, and she will give you the same. American men have been taught too much PC BS and believe it. FSU women don't care about that, make decisions and follow through. She isn't a slave or a servant. The ones that I have been with will take care of the house, not because you tell her, but because she feels that is her part. Your part is to provide for the house. She'll give you all the sex you want, anytime you want, anyway that you want, but you have to treat her as your good woman, not some slut. Make sure she feels protected, be the man, step up to the plate. She wants to be proud of you, but in return, you have to be proud of her. Gifts are fine, but only given with respect on both sides... Like with all women, be positive, glass has to be half-full, not half-empty. Don't be lazy, stay in shape, and she will do the same for you. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > These women will use you and leave you
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