I have been on a particular dating site for sometime and have chatted via email with many women. I resently met a girl I really like from Kazan. I initiated by flirting with her and she wrote to me back. We have been writing everyday for over a month now, sending fotos, etc.
have verified that she works where she said she did (as a manager of another/different dating agency) and really feel that she is genuine. I sent flowers to her work address and she thanked me the next day. Her photos are of her friends, family and are not all done up and air brushed. She is just 9 years younger than me and I feel that we both are very attractive in our own right. All of her emails will specifically answer the inquiries I have for her and seem very genuine.
The only reservation I have is that about two weeks after we were talking, she is wanting for us to meet in a foreign locale for a vacation together. I have concerns that this girl may be a "vacation hunter".
She has traveled already to many exotic places but I believe she also makes a good living in her own right and may have traveled on her own.
She has never asked me for money or anything else but in one email stated in a description of herself that "she is a bit traditional and that the man should pay for dinner, vacations, etc".
I am just curious to any advisors if some girls are just on the sites to vacation shop?
You have been writing for over a month and see wants to met you somewhere already? Are you paying for her air ticket? I think that the man should pay for some things but you need to be a little cautious going forward. I met a vacation hunter and while the trip was great, it did not lead to anything long term.
There is only one way to find out truth....only question is....are you willing to take that chance?????
Girls are on these sites for many diffferent things, marriage, shopping, dinners, good times, companionship,
and vacation shopper. I have been in correspondence with a girl since February, we almost met in May but this summer she told me she wanted to meet away from Ukraine. I was unsure about this since we have never met personally, I wondered how we would get along, her English is poor, my Russian is poor. Also, what if there is no
chemistry, it is not like you can just leave. It turns out, I am not meeting her in another country, I feel more comfortable in her city or somewhere near. Lots of scammer stories of girls out of Kazan.
I meet a scammer from Kazan who resides on a number of free dating sites..it calls itself Julia, has Russian facial features ( you can usually tell if girl is Russian looking by her facial features ) and she uses a Yahoo mail address on a loop back feed for IP addresses of 127.0.0.0 which makes it impossible to trace her IP address ( this ip is a network card loopback address ) and she uses "The Bat" mass e-mailer,sends letters and pictures for each reply that don't make sense and its all automated replies and template letters.
I told her to go "play with herself and dream of a man" and she sent me a full page letter with pictures, telling how much she enjoys my letters!
Its a bloody laugh!
Kazan is a well known place for scammers or is used as the city where they claim to live but "shazzam" you usually find a scammer!
Do an IP trace on all e-mails from Russian/FSU girls to see where they actaully come from!
Ah yes beware of the girls who would like you to pay for their free holiday in another place and don't want you to come to their home town. I met a girl from Melitopol a few times who was like this. I always had to pay to meet her in another city. I of course had to pay for everything else too (gifts, resteraunts, hotels etc.) I did it 3 times and only because we had a good time with each other and I thought she was serious about getting married to me and coming to live in my country. But after the third time meeting where she kept repeatingly asking me for money in our emails, not to mention the fact that everytime I would ask her when she was going to get her international passport, when we we're going to work on her coming to live with me and get married and when she wanted me to come to her town and meet her family she would basically ignore it all and not answer me, I kind of knew that she was not really serious about me at all. We had not spoken much for a few months and out of the blue she emailed me again last month and asked me to come and see her again. I wasn't sure if I should again because I didn't want to waste my time and money on a visit that would go nowhere, as I'm not looking for games but a real relatioship. So I decided to do some searching of her on the internet and sure enough I found her on a couple of scam sites that she was put on back before we knew each other, she also had just joined a new marriage agency without me knowing it (if she wanted to see me again so much why do that?) so I confronted her about this fact and told her I wasn't sure when I could see her again (it's the truth as financially right now I'm tapped out) Well she got mad and told me she couldn't wait for me forever and basically tried to justify her behaviour to me and I haven't heard from her since. So basically a girl I put my hopes and dreams into (not too mention lots of money) in the last 2 years is gone and I'm left wondering why I've ever bothered to try to be with any of these women. It's things like this that make you think being single your whole life is not such a bad thing. So yes I would be on your guard about a woman who does not want you to meet in her city.
Oh ya guys... she is listed on Fiance.com too and she is probably one of the prettiest women I've ever seen and is very, very hard to resist, so beware...
Hey guys, thanks for all of the input....
I should be clear in that she has not asked that I pay for her ticket to travel.
Here are her words,
"Maybe from my culture or traditions beliefs, I still think
that a man should pay in a restaurant and for vacation costs and
regularly make presents, surprises, flowers. I
would probably be a little uncomfortable if my partner cannot make
enough money to provide for himself and I will have to financially
provide for him. I would also feel uncomfortable if I don't earn any
money at all and completely depend on my partner financially. I need
to have some independence in life, both financial and emotional."
I had mentioned to her that I would like to come to Kazan in October and she said that would be fine and that she would then just take her vacation in July or August. She said that she is in need of a vacation and that I am more than welcome to visit her in Kazan. I just assumed I should be paying for the ticket if we meet somewhere.
Her words,
"7 days is such a short vacation for me. But I need a vacation. I
planned to spend it with you. But if you prefer to come to Kazan in
October - you are very welcome. and I will go for vacation in August
or September. I would rather go for vacation with you..."
She manages a dating agency and I sent flowers there in her name without telling her and she got them the next day. I "googled" the agencies in Kazan, saw her listed as director and sent them to the address in her name. She got them the next day and wrote to thank me
In trying to size this girl up, I have considered a number of factors. She speaks fluent english and lived in the USA during her senior year in high school. Her letters are truly genuine and she goes into great detail to explain or answer any questions I may have. There just seems to be no holes in her story anywhere, not that a good con won't show any.
Is it okay to expect her to pay for her own plane ticket if we meet in the middle?
My gut tells me that this is the real McCoy but a vacation like that will set me back about $4,000 when it is all said and done. A bit much for the first date. I am living in Central America and I am thinking of flying her here as she does not need a VISA and I could handle other expenses here.
timber
i was also writing to a lady from Kazan last year. Regina was her name.She was on rbrides.com and their other site2date.
after the fifth e mail she asked for money airfare to vist me in Denmark.Of course i refused.It seems she has tried this scam with other men as well.
Timber,
that passport to me is telling a storey,
mate all good if you don't mind spending money go for it.
personally she would be coming to my country so i can dictate the spending.
vacation is about money as she kindly hinted.
its interesting how she expects this, bit of spending and you haven't met.
tell her New Zealand we will go, good skiing, she wouldn't like that ticket.
for a person in her position you would think she would have a better understanding not to ask so much at first.
it is a lot of dollar for a first date i agree.
another stamp in the passport.
you can only go on your gut feeling, you pay you dictate, she pay she dictates no you always pay.
your country mate.
You are living in Central America? Have you tried Colombia, Venezuela, Costa Rica? There are many beautiful women from these countries who are looking and they are a lot closer to you. cheaper than $4000 to fly there. I just married a lady from Venezuela after two trips to the FSU without luck.
Yeah, I have been down here almost two years now and have done the latin thing.
I prefer the FSU girls a little more (I dated one before I met in my town). Nothing against Latinos at all.
Check out amigos.com for meeting. I met a girl from Costa Rica there and we dated a while.
Some of the most beautiful women are from Venezuela, Columbia and Brasil.
Just watch out though, Latinas can be vicious as well and very tempermental!
Pura Vida
I am originally from El Salvador so I know spanish very well. I met her on a site called Latincupids or something like that.
The women from FSU are very beautiful but the distance from the US, language, and cultural differences make this an uphill battle to find love.
timber, good luck with your lady. Remember one thing. These women prefer strong men that makes decisions for them. I have been three times now, three different women, and three different FSU countries. I have had three wonderful experiences and the last one was a vacation hunter. Also, once you set a precedent, that behaviour will be expected by your lady in the future. Globus, sorry to hear of your story, I can understand where you are coming from. With each of the ladies I visited I could have continued my relatinship with each of them but my instincts told me that there was no long term future. I think what has struck me most in the past 14 months is the fact that these women adore and crave attention and we as western men can all to wrongly get mixed signals. I will get there....eventually!!!
its does suck- i have been allready hit up for the same thing! all the flowery words are written and then some signatures with hugs/kisses and then those famous words are conveyed to a tune like this
"We need your help and care my
Sweetie.
Honey, if you're really serious about our relationship"
yessiree bob! just another $ hunter and the rest is water under the bridge.
stay the course globus! damn the torpedoes full steam ahead
Hi Glob, of course you must move on!! Yes, you feel like crap just now,but the fact that you will read this reply, means that you will carry on and succeed in your quest. Give yourself some time and then when you are ready you must have no doubts, just pick yourself up and start again. All the best!!
timber, she sounds as close to the real deal as you're going to find. I personally would get to know her for longer than a month before I visited, but that's just me. Usually scammers have very short patience and will start to hit you up for money almost immediately. If you've been writing every day, and in a month's time she hasn't hit you up directly for money (usually a sob story that she's being evicted or her mother will die without surgery, etc--i.e. something to pull at your heartstrings), then she's probably legit.
Whatever you do, learn from Globus's lesson. No offense to Globus, we do a lot of dumb things for love and my heart goes out to him. But if you start getting that feeling in the back of your head that you're being played, then listen to that feeling, and listen to it early. Don't let yourself get strung along in the hopes that she will change. Don't go broke trying to turn nothing into something.
Otherwise, enjoy your trip! I'm headed over that way in September. Can't wait!!