I have been talking and writing to a girl form Mariupol for a while and she says she is only communicating with me
but when I do a search for her on the net her profile pops up on many different websites, with new pictures of her.
She has not asked for any money but I think she she might be lying about not corresponding with other men.
Is there a way to find out the truth or just trust her because she hasn't asked for money? She is 23yrs and name is Maya.
Set yourself up with an alias profile, false pics that you have copied and pasted, an alias hotmail or yahoo email address and then write to her under your alias, tell her that you are the best thing since sliced bread, and see if she replies and then you should know.
jnp007: i have been really irritated when ladies tell me that i am the only one that they are writing to. sometimes i really wonder whether this has become something common to say to all men they are writing to but in fact i cant really stop my curiousity whether i am really the only one or not.
from my experiences, some ladies might be very sincere about this, it all depends on the sincerity of your conversation but I have never tried to sign up with a different nickname and send letters to them. i have tried to find some different ways to justify it.
It is common practice for agencys to steal pictures of girls from other websites. See if they respond to you? C'mon Martin you've used this trick before, I wish I could find the thread you posted that in before you schmuck. Also if they are an affiliate of Anastasia, they could be one loveme.com, Oneandonly.com the list goes on.
Of course she will respond, but then which one is legit? Get her cell number, phone number or address, if they won't give that to you move on, research is over. No need to do it the way Martin_UK suggests.
Most of you guys bitch that the girls are less than honest, what the hell is setting up an alias? In my book that is dishonest. Also if you buy into the fact that she is communicating only with you, better take the blinders off. You better have a damn good reason to think you are the only one. Like long time communication, seeing her a couple of times etc.
Also 23 years old and named Maya, that's cutting the list down. What agency is she from? You should be able to provide that. If you don't know her agency, you've got some problems from the start.
nasfan6, I think you are right. If I expect her to trust me I should trust her until something suspicious happens.
I guess I am kind of paranoid because I was scammed before on a different website from a Romanian girl.
I think I will just try to meet her soon and hopefully after meeting I will know if she is right for me or not.
I would like to know if any of you are corresponding with or have corresponded with her. Her name is ...
I meet her through Anastasia so I guess she has profiles on lots of other sites. I have been communicating for around
six months with her so it would be interesting to know how popular or not she is. If she is corresponding with other people
I will just ask her about it and see what she says. Thanks for your responses.
Personally, I would not want to devulge name of a girl I am very interested in on any public forum. An old guys saying is all fair in love and war. Maybe for some you have just got them to inquire about her, even maybe your competition. I know your are honest but never put a girl between yourself and another guy. Good Luck!!
You made me laugh when you said...she told you she is only communicating with you.
Do you think it is dishonest to have flowers sent a girl from another person/alias? I always wondered and it has been brought up recently, when was picture taken of girl holding flowers? I thought if you sent flowers to girl from two different sources and got same picture, you would know for sure about girl/agency.
Beemer, I think you will find out without using an alias. I sent flowers a couple of times. One time to a woman who I thought was playing me and in fact found out she was. The address she gave me was some old womans house in Magadan Russia. The florist asked me what I wanted to do with the flowers, I told them to give them to the old lady.
My problem with the post your talking about is, and I may have missed something, is did he send them to her directly or to the Agency for her? Hell the florist will take pictures for you. I've used Flamingo here, a little pricey but reliable. I've used different florists from time to time as a competitive price check. I also wouldn't send flowers to the agency. I sent them by surprise to my wife, and signed it guess who. When I called her the next day she said hello Guess who. I teased her a bit and said I didn't send flowers, then she referred to something on the card, that we had a phone conversation about the previous time. I tried to stay away from anything with the agency, flowers etc. If the girl is real honest, she's going to give you her address, her agencys address, her translators name etc. I feel the more information she divulges to you, the better off you are. Vice versa. More she wants to really know the better.
I don't think you need to use tactics Like Ivor_BoredMartinUK uses. But then he's been a fraud for a long time. Also his reference is idiotic regarding 6 months communication before going. Whatever works for a guy is what it is. One minute he was here just like one of the guys looking for a woman, and the next thing you know he is married and in the in with some agency. What a joke.
If you want to work this with deceit involved then you get what you get. If you use common sense, you don't need to be deceitful. I don't know why guys leave their senses and try to make this some mysterious system, some adversarial game in searching for a lady from the FSU. I never broadcasted when I was sending flowers. I just did it and waited for a response and when they arrived. Nothing is certain, but this will help seperate the wheat from the chaff at times. I refused to use agency services of any kind except their translation services through fiance.com. That will seperate the players from the real ones or translators. The agencys play games with the girls and guys. After we were together in the states my wife gave me the lowdown about it. Amazing that many girls complain about certain agencys in their city. Actually when I learned more about it, I began to feel for the girls as much as I do they guys that get scammed. Also how they (agencys) breed the mindset of corruptability within the girls. Older ones don't buy into it too much and the young ones do, because they are programmed early that most guys aren't coming over to visit them so get all you can get up front.
For Ivor_boredUK, it was 9 months from beginning of my correspondence until I stepped foot on the ground in Kiev to meet my wife. It would have been sooner but there were complications that delayed my arrival with my work, and as dissappointed as she was she understood and still hung in there. I was lucky, I really thought I was going to lose her. I called her everyday during my lunch hours and stayed in communication with her. 3 months after the first miscue, she was standing at Borispol with a single rose in her hand, a picture that I will never forget and is burned in my brain just like it was yesterday. I wonder how many girls were standing at the airports waiting for guys to show up that never did?
Yeah Nas, 6 months should really be the limit if you are serious. Lucky she didn't bolt, but she really liked you.
Your right about wondering why a man has to be so adversarial and antagonistic in regards to determining a girl's sincerity. I don't get it. If your this type of guy, your not going to be able to handle ANY type of relationship with any amount of trust.
Get the address and sending flowers via an independent 3rd party is a very good idea.
Only just started using fiance.com and see that a lot of girls have quite a good english level so why do they need to use agency email why dont they have private email.I am referring to a post above which basically says use agency only when you have to so in the letters i sent i enclosed my email but they still use agency to write back.
I have been through a lot of posts on forum and a lot of times its saying to be carefull of agency as well as girls as they send letters on behalf of girls with out them even knowing about it.
Stevey: I have found through my experience that most Russian women are "glued" to the agency's. They don't want to leave it or in some case the agency doesn't want to lose them and probably do all kinds of things to keep them around. I'm sure some agency's pay women to write to men and to even meet them. So not only are these unserious 'daters' making money from the agency to see men they get free dinners and gifts (if they're lucky) too. Watch out for girls who are on a million sites and have been on them for years and years. That's not a good sign. She may just be really picky but usually it means she is a pro dater.
A lot of girls don't want to talk through email, even if they have good english, because they don't want to make the effort to go to the internet cafe and pay to talk with you (Even though the internet cafe costs are next to nothing) They would rather just go to the agency where they get everything done for them for free (get the letters translated)
I have been to these internet cafes plenty of times, in Russia and Ukraine and I can see why girl would
not want to use it. The cost factor can really add up if you are reading and answering many letters. You might
need several trips to answer all of them. In agency, I am sure girl does not pay for anything and there is a translator there and also maybe could make a few bucks. The older a girl is and if she has a good job will tend to have a private address.
Strongly agreed - Internet cafe's can be expensive for a girl with a limited budget. Agency's offer a girl a bit of security from the unscrupulous types who don't read forums and head out thinking they can 'bag a babe' because they think Marriage Agency girls are easy pickings.