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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > question about the agency i'm using Author Post hfiske Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2007 3:08:03 PM   kiev connections, i've had a hard time finding any one that has used it. any info is appreciated. i have paid for some of their services and have had a few emails that weren't answered so i'm a little concerned. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 11:03:23 AM   I really (strongly) advise not to use a small website for correspondences at all. It's not exactly a dedicated agency, its an affiliate type of website. Big difference... Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 12:53:48 PM   I checked them out in the past and you have to pay 10 dollars to send or a get a letter on there! That's really a lot. I suspect that the girls on that site are paid to have dinner dates with guys especially since you have to pay the agency a fee to go out with one of their girls if you came into their agancy in Kiev. "Jim" has the site on his gold list on his site but he also has love.com and elena's models on there too and those sites are pretty bad too IMO. I would not use that site if I we're you. Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 1:35:40 PM   that should be loveme.com, sorry. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 4:48:03 PM   Yeah loveme has been around forever. Most expensive site there is, and its common for a girl to never write you back. Sent a few -- received one, and they wanted to charge $15.95 for me to read it. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 11:42:19 PM   Hey Globus..... hfiske.....call up agency and complain to Jim...his number is on site. I met him last time in Kiev, seems nice but I am sure he has a goldmine there. How long has it been for e-mails??? I agree it is very expensive to do anything with that site. I 100% agree with Globus....I did use them for dates. It costs $40 for them to set you up with meeting with any girl on site. It is amazing, they call girl right there and set it up before you leave...even same day service!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now bad part, girl has no idea anything about you and all you know is her beautiful pic, not big chance of anythings working out. For me. I got lucky and me and girl hit it off and spend several evenings together. I still think girls like one I saw, are only daters, for guys visiting Kiev and want to meet a girl. These girls could be married or even have a boyfriends..who knows. My first and only time ever using an agency this way...maybe never again..I hope apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 11:50:51 PM   A PG-13 rated escort service eh? :0 hfiske Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 10:31:22 AM   ok, then who should i use, i'm in the process of setting up a trip to kiev next month. i assumed this agency was reputable, i sent a bio with pics and they sent those out to the 10 women i was interested in. that's not good? do you really think they're just pro-daters? i appreciate any input, you guys know better than i do. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 7:11:40 PM   If your asking us for specific advice, unfortunately, you have to give us a bit more specific information. If your a first-timer and don't have a 7-figure bank account, steer clear of any very pretty agency girl in Kiev. Possible 400k/yr+ could suffice if you are decent looking. That's as honest as I can be... Head to the smaller rural towns and cities if you are in the 80-150k range. Girls aren't as money-centric. And if you can just hire a local college kid who speaks English for $5/hr - go for it. If you are set on Kiev, and don't have tons of money and looks that kill? Stay out of local Kiev agencies and go to the malls, museums and bars you like - bring up a conversation with a pretty girl who is with one girlfriend. You'd be surprised at how much more down to earth they will be over an agency girl who writes 20-30 guys a week and meets a new guy every week or so. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 7:55:47 PM   hfiske <i sent a bio with pics and they sent those out to the 10 women i was interested in. that's not good> Mate every girl is going to know you have written to all the others and so there is noway they are going to take you seriously. You may as well throw your cards in now because if you go to see them it is unlikely any will turn up and if one does, it is only going to be for a shopping trip. I lost some very nice girls in St Pete because I wrote to many girls from the same city. The girl I write to at the moment is on a big russian site where there are thousands of girls from her city. She has told me of a guy that wrote to her and wrote the same stuff to 3 of her friends. They think he is a joke. This is certainly going to happen in a agency where there may be only a few hundred girls. I now do not write to more than one girl in a city. The more personal you can make it with a girl, the more chance you will have. I expect the same from them in return. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 9:28:52 PM   Adddy, I disagree with you on several things but agree on one aspect. In regard to kievconnections, who cares if other girls know you are writing....they will ALL me with you. Reason I know this, I was there, in office watching what goes on there. I think they are legit, the girls may be a different story thou, can't police every girl. And I think they may look the other way sometimes. All they promise is a meeting..that's all. What else can you expect? Maybe girl likes you maybe not, maybe girl is just dater maybe not...who really knows. In regard to writing girls on a site like fiance, different story, I still write to girls in same city but make sure topics are different and content is different, that way even if girls know each other it is harder to comapre notes if letters are different. In terms of meeting girls, pick one for sure and 1 maybe, anything more than that is too much. I agree on making your letters as personal as you can, chances are she will think highly of you. I don't have that 7-figure bank account but hopefully will find a girl that doesn't value that highly. I have met many girls that 'money' never was a topic. Talk was mostly personal and getting to know each other, of course, I paid for dinner, drinks, taxi and incidentals. Most important--treat her with respect!! Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 9:36:12 PM   Hey Beemer, how's things? I'm sorry but it just isn't true that only gold diggers are from Kiev or Odessa. I know this first hand. I met 3 girls from smaller cities in Ukraine and all 3 we're gold diggers. You can find them anywhere unfortunetly. A lot of girls who live in Kiev are from smaller cities anyways, they come there for better opportunities for work. If you are going to talk to girls from Kiev through letters just be on your guard about them and what they say to you about what they want in life. Trust your instincts and listen to your gut and you should be able to spot bad ladies. Unless of course she is a brilliant liar then you will not know what she is really about until you see her in person. Unfortunetly there are no guarantees with this whole thing. Just be cautious is the best advice I can give you hfiske. As for not writing to too many girls from the same city I do agree that these women probably do talk to each other and they know about you talking to the other girls in their agency. My attitude about it? If they don't like it, too freaking bad! I have a different opinion from other posters on here I know. A lot of these girls meet all kinds of men and write to other men too, so it's okay that they do this but you can only write to them and if you write others you are not serious about them? What a load of crap. Yes it's nice to think that these girls are only writing you and are giving you the same courtesy you are giving them but the reality is usually far different. It's funny when these women want us to follow some way of doing things that they want us to do but will not follow these rules themselves. Typical bullshit selfish behaviour from FSU women if you ask me. They have the right of choice just like we do and so if you want to talk to a bunch of ladies to get to know them and decide who you would like to meet or not meet after getting to know them I say go for it. If a girl you write knows you talk to others from her agency and doesn't like it she doesn't have to communicate with you anymore, it's as simple as that. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 12:24:47 AM   Beemer If you are saying Kievconnections is an escort service? Well sure write to them All. You pay for each letter and I dont think hookers can really expect you to be exclusive. You write to a dozen girls in the same city. Arrange to meet them all and when you have met them, decide which one you like the best. It all seems to make so much sense. But of course this never works (only on kievconnections). On a more serious site, you would be classed as a sex tourist the first week of writing. One thing I have learnt is Russian women get very jealous. I changed my profile the other day, added in some Russian translation. The two girls I am most serious with, both spate the dummy. I got "please explain why you needed to change your profile?". They did not want me even thinking about writing to other women. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 2:02:19 AM   Addy, Not so much an escort service as just dates. Escort service reminds me of classy prostitutes. I was speaking more in terms of when you are there already in Kiev. To write letters to these girls I wouldn't, they charge an arm and a leg for letters, I think $10 each and be able to pay girls letters for only $10 more. I agree that this site it is only for daters, I doubt many serious relationships start there. But you never know. I just wouldn't use a site like kievconnections, it is pay per letter. Fact is, the girl I met before, I sent her a letter with pics from our time together and was charged $10. I did not have her e-mail address. Your Russian girls do sound very jealous, that is one major turn off for me, my ex was that way and very insecure, which had a major impact in our divorce. Can you imagine being accused of something you didn't do or being questioned about what you did all day. Don't need that, I hope I meet a girl that is secure with herself. What is it with this ' write only to one girl' thing????? Unless you have met with them and you both would like to be exclusive, write to as many as you want. I can't believe those girls. I have NEVER had any girl say that to me after I 'updated my profile'....... got a couple winners there Addy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do they know you write to another girl? hfiske Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 7:47:31 AM   first off, i'm 31, and i keep myself in shape. i don't have a lot of money, around 100-125,000 a year. if kiev connections is not the way to go and neither are the big agencies, then how did you guys meet women? what's some of the other alternatives? i'd hate to go over there and hang out in a restaurant or bar and hit on girls, but if that's how you guys did it............... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 9:05:31 AM   Beemer.. I strongly agree with adman. I usually get to talking to the management staff and translators about their business side. And out of curiousity I ask about this specifically. Letters get handed out to girls by the staff. A girl will know first-hand if you are writing to other girls. The more personal a letter becomes does not matter. A girl wants to feel special. She doesn't want to be seen as an object. This was repeated to me not just in FSU but in Latin America as well. I would HIGHLY STRONGLY recommend NOT to write more than one girl at a time in any city. As far as that goes, I try to write only one girl until she proves she is not the girl I seek, then I go on to the next --- this was deemed the most appropriate method by those I asked. An agency does not want to see a sex tourist who makes a girl feel like she is a piece of meat in a grocery store. There was one small local marriage agency who will not allow that to occur in order to protect girls from these types of men. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 9:07:33 AM   Oh and in my current letters? Meeting insincere men who simply want to have fun? Well it's the #1 fear these girls have... And the only warning sign they have? A man who writes more than one girl at the same time -- especially if they are in the same agency... We have scammers to look out for, they ALL have the sex tourist to worry about... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 10:18:21 AM   Apal, I have no problem writing to girls in same city, I do wonder if they are in same agency. It is a fine line and I make sure letters are very personal and each girl gets a letter than speaks only of our specific correspondence. I understand what you are saying, its tricky, I would have problems when and if I decide to visit. In meantime, my letters will go on and as time goes I will decide which one is more compatiable with me. I DO have a choice, as opposed to, well is this one girl worth it, if not then start process over again. How long do you wait till you decide girl is not right for you, 4 months......6 months? Apal, you tell us about what translators and staff have told you, well, what makes you think they are telling you the complete truth? They can tell you anything they want. Would you believe everything is say? Take things you hear with a grain of salt. Sure a girl wants to be special...but are you telling me girls only write to one guy at a time? Spare me the BS, girls write to many guys, the prettier the girl the more letters... do you actually think the girls you are writing to are ONLY writing to you???? Do you have any idea how many sites your 'girl' is on????? Get real??? apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 7:35:14 PM   Agreed - it's just what they said when I mentioned sincerity and the things they look for when they try to find it. A guy using form letters, a guy wanting to meet one girl after another when they arrive, etc. Your method is pretty good. Make sure their personalized letters and I don't think you have a single issue. Yes, these girls do write 10-20+ guys a week, why should we be the ones looking bad for doing the exact same thing. Just be careful, if you know the girl is not for you because of something tacky she wrote you? Get one of those girls angry and hell hath no fury, etc. etc.. ;0 beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2007 8:10:33 PM   Apal, A few months ago I was writing to 3 girls from Mariupol. They joined site within a couple weeks of each other. I wrote for a couple months before I detected that my letters were opened nearly always around same time and responces were close to around same times, it got me thinking...are these girls talking to each other at agency??? I adjusted my letters writing to offset girls responces. Still they came same times. When I mentioned something 'off the wall'....about myself, it seemed a question came from another stating about something I had not told them. It is handy for fiance to have all my letters to look back on. So I am very watchful about writing to girls from same city. I still wonder about Nikolaev, so so many girls. I have been told there are tons of agencies there, so maybe girls do not know each other. 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