I'm just curious if any guy on here has had any positive experience meeting women from this city. I just ask because I have heard so many negative things on here about men who have talked to and met women from there. Like they are all daters and gold diggers, that they don't show up when you go to meet with them and that a lot of the women aren't even real or they are paid to talk to guys. It seems Odessa girls are all clad in bikinis all over the agency sites too which is kind of worrying to me. I checked out loveme.com's page of engagements and barely any of them we're from there, next to none actually.
On the sites I'm on I always have tons of women from that city write to me. I've talked to a couple of girls there in the past and they seemed nice but I've never been there and after all of the rotten women I have met in Ukraine in the past I'm just getting really leary of this anymore.
Does anone believe there are serious women there are at all or is it all just a bunch of bullsh#t?
Odessa is great place to visit especially summer. Lots of people go to vacation there, girls are scantily clad and georgeous, many nice restaurants and Arcadia is fun.
Ive met a couple of girls sitting in restaurants but my experience with girls from agencies there are very bad. Just as you you fear.
If you want to meet local girls its best to use Russian language dating sites. The girls there are not generally scammers and more serious, only drawback is that they are not necessarily looking to relocate. However as usual its a numbers game, contact enough women and you will get some bites. Good thing is that they are free so no pay for letters, emails, phone number, translations or anything else.
I hate posts that say "girls from....." Grow up, it doesn't matter where in the world you go to, people are different, spend some time getting to know the girls and form your own opinion!
Sorry that my post upset you so much Zeeco, I just asked a simple question. Maybe I should have been more specific and asked about meeting AGENGY girls from Odessa instead. Sometimes I just can't get over how hostile and touchy people on here can be. I'll try next time not to say something that you hate...
As for people being different, It's funny because in the last 4 years I have met 4 girls from Ukraine and some of these girl's friends and written to a lot of other women from there in that time and all in all I have not really seen that these girls are really that different from each other. There are some small things like in their tastes and maybe some are a little nicer and warmer than an other but generally these girls are very similar deep down, especially once you really get to know them and their real selves come out. It's not to say that there could be some Russian girls out there that are very different and not typical but I've yet to meet and talk to one. :-)
Globus, I was in Odessa a few months ago and met with couple of girls. One from Odessa did not know much english but seemed quite real and genuine. Had a nice evening, dinner a walk and back to my place for late evening appetizer.
I have heard much talk about the women, would definately not want to go into agencies there($150 to meet a girl).
I currently am writing to a girl I will be visiting soon, she lives in a small city out of Odessa. She seems to be very real. There seems to be an influx of girls from odesssa and nikolaev lately. I think if girl in bikini clad...it is all show and no substance. Find the girl with top buttoned up to her chin!!!!!
Globus, your question did not upset me, as you say it was a simple question, that should only have been asked by a simple person, i am sure that you are really for more intelligent than your question suggests, you say that the 4 girls you have met are all similar, maybe you are attracted to a certain type?
As for your other qusstion about women being serious,at this dating malarky, the answer is yes, you just have to take your time and wittle out the ones you are weary about, build up a rapour, talk to each other via email or phone, when the relationship has come to a certain point, you will know that a meeting is the next step, I am sure there is an inteligent girl from Odessa, perfect for you. Good luck.
it seems i hear my calling card, i am a simple man so we are in luck.
i would class that place like Simferopol but with a different spin on it.
who wants to swim through countless crap to find a nice one.
with agency's, the cost would be horrendous.
do they think we are or are we that stupid to endure worthless ventures in certain city's.
yes we are the creator of it, but some city's i cannot be bothered with.
it shows a lot are, rather them then me.
Odessa and Simferopol and there are few others, when there name comes up with agency's, its nothing but spam
saying this most of you lot are reasonably close for travel to these places for little cost and can cut corners a little, i don't have that pleasure
anyways
time to chop some wood and search for them damn duck eggs,
sorry zeeco couldnt help myself
Odessa has some nice modest girls, but they look like modest girls. An agency girl has to overcome the stigma attached as to the reason why she has to join an agency in the first place to find a boyfriend - husband. If you don't believe me - one of you guys who are there now just turn around and ask your translator - because each one of the 4 I had said the same thing.
And Beware of the super-hot young girls in any major city. This type of girl will have many local men courting her and you really should take it into account as to why a girl so attractive would want to find an older foreign husband, when many men her age and older would want to date her as well.
A smaller city is always preferred, but there are gold-diggers and rude women in all sizes of cities. It is no guarrantee - it's a crap shoot. Maybe the girl you are writing is legit, maybe she will actually meet you when you come, maybe she isn't a professional dater, maybe she is sincere and isn't dating local Ukraine men, maybe she isn't a gold-digger / visa / green card girl.
If you got luck on your side, and you have written her for several months and you meet? Maybe she thinks you are attractive, and then maybe she might like you enough to take you seriously and proceed further into a physical or long-term relationship.
Yet then again, the odds are not in your favor, but they are not impossible, just remote - so that's why sincere good guys sometimes fail when they do meet a girl in the FSU.
I would recommend write someone very special, but ALWAYS have an alternate to see, once things do not go as well as you had originally hoped. NOW THIS IS THE ADVICE I WISH SOMEONE HAD TOLD ME. So I will leave it here for the next guy.
I have to agree with zeeco. It would be like saying "girls from Denver..." or "girls from Chicago..." With all due respect to the OP, it's really not a good way to judge a person. Russian women aren't cranked out on a factory line, they're all different just like any other girl on the planet.
If the girls you've been corresponding with haven't been to your liking, be patient. I searched for over a year before I found the one girl that interests me. You also might want to write to different "types" of girls to kind of mix things up. If you've only been corresponding with 22 year-old blondes, try a 26 year-old brunette. :) Good luck!
it's a well known fact that a lot of girls advertised on local marriage websites in the Crimea area are trying to make a buck or so or have you visiting them for a good time.
This area is becoming more popular by West European tourist every year so the economy is catchig up. Most girls are NOT even thinking of leaving the area, let alone the country. In the not to distant future there will be work enough, so why leave anyway?
Probably you might run into a lady who stands no chance at all in this tourism industry or just wants to get away from a dreary little suburb or village in the country.
My experience with FSU countries since the iron curtain rolled up are mixed. But generally speaking they are proud, loyal, patriotic citizens of their country and family life is very important.
From experience I can tell you when you show respect towards the girl, interest in her family, her feelings, her life you will encounter more understanding.
The so called one night stands are in for a good time, like you do in reverse. I cannot believe you would ever marry your one night stand, do you?
Being a Dutch native, living near Prague, Czech Republic, since 1995 and doing business in Central and Eastern Europe for over 2 decades, speaking the language, I pretend to understand a bit of the Slavic tribes.
I can only advise you to read a bit more about their history and their descent. Probably it helps you.
modest dreamers, Mercedes, gucci handbag and glasses other label wears, only the modestly nicest motels and restaurants.
sounds like home away from home.
not getting at you apel but really they don't need to join a agency for there search.
one really has to ask how serious they are in there search.
a good sixty seventy percent maybe more its just a game, we really just don't know how many gamers men or woman there is.
stigma, don't know about that.
one thing i have learnt about these women they have adapted to this like flies over a wet blanket.
they are very very intelligent women of all types like you said.
so "stigma" dunno
dating and finding a husband is really two different things also.
there is plenty of other Internet sites that are free.
if they were sincere they could find a man there, but a lot of them are lazy and what others to do everything for them, so really how serious are they.
what ever they are they make us pay for it.
not all ladies can do it but there are plenty of free sites or some at a very modest cost.
these low cost or free sites I'm on these ladies organise there own interpreting if needed, so for starters there is a big tick for serious search on there part for husband and proves they can afford Internet fees and think for them selves in there own beautiful independent intelligent way.
i think I'm starting to dislike these agencies
yes one should have a understanding of their slarvic background, its a big part of this world
Agree strongly with AR. The economy in the FSU has picked up remarkably in the last 10 years. There is a new breed of women coming into the websites, and they are expecting and sometimes demanding a man fit all their criteria - instead of vice-versa.
When I first wrote a girl about 4 years ago? It was complete exact opposite. The girls were very sincere, very nice and polite. Now its a completely different world. A majority of the letters are demanding and sometimes even impolite. Hundreds and thousands of men write these agency girls and it goes to their heads.
After my visit to Ukraine, I went to South America and the translator friends I made there said the same thing:
"When a girl gets in an agency, she gets spoiled and corrupted by the money and the temptation of older men offering her money. You need to steer clear of agency girls. Why? Because most of them write and see men every single week, and the girls are the ones that pick and chose. It's only the naive man who thinks he is the one doing the picking and the choosing..."
If you want to debate this? Feel free, but its exactly what I see, and its exactly what other guys have pointed out to me who used to run agencies... its a money game, and insincere hot girls are the cash cow to the agencies.