I am corresponding with a Russian woman from Siberian region town of Tomsk. Sounds like a nice place to visit from what I have read. She says she wants to come here to America to meet with me. She claims to need $275 for the visa. I will post part of her last letter here so you can see exactly what she is saying. She says she speaks english well enough to talk to someone. Could someone tell me if she is for real or just trying to get money from me? She claims the the airline flight is payed for though her work. I don't understand this. She wrote before: I will have work visa so my firm will pay for tickets so you must not worry about tickets or money for tickets because my working firm will pay for this. But I must ask
money help from you for payment for registration of my work visa and passport to your country, because I do not have any money right now.
Anyway here is what she wrote with help from the translation program:
I still hope to get your money
help for my nesesary documents to your country sooner. I want to meet
you faster, because my firm can give me some vacation at this time,
because usually we have alot of work and now my boss decide to give me
some more days. Today morning I have already had blood testing which I
paid myself, it cost 17,5 $ US, test was taken 20 mins and my blood is OK
do not have any viruses or bacteries so I may begin visa and passport
registration. I still need that amount 275 $ US correctly so then I
will be able to give documents and money to
registration of the visa and passport and people in travel agency
tolds to me that it would be ready in 10-14 days.
You can see that it is much faster than to wait 3-4 months which
usually this process borrows. Because I want to pay for promtness.
My visa would work in your country maximum for 90 days. Sorry but
I can not have visa for more days. I hope that you will not wait
and will try to send me money faster that I might pay for this purpose.
Then I have alreday might plan my flight to you, because my firm will
help me to buy any tickets for any date (but of course not for first
class). You know I plan to leave my country from SVO international
airport in Moscow. It is closest international airport to me.
Just remember one thing my firm will pay for international flight only.
I want to arrive to you faster and my sweet now it depends
only on you. I have already explained to you how difficultly to earn such money in
Russia. And I do not want that money stops our relations. Really a
little it is a shame to me to ask it from you but I have no other exit
in this situation.
I very much want to leave from here to you, I was bothered with my city,
I want to see only you and to be only with you. I have never thought
that I would fall in love to you so quickly and it is not some joke my
feelings are real for you. I want to execute all
your dreams and imaginations of me because I love you madly. I want to
do only as you will wish. I very much believe in you and your help
money faster.
James, do not forget use Western Union or Money Gram.
Sorry but we have not any other transfer system therefore one of those
ways would good to use for us.
Also I must to know your full address if I would receive it.
But please do not think about me badly. I have only real and
serious intentions for our dialogue.
Please understand one simple thing. It is very very hard to borrow
money from someone here in Russia. Please understand that average
income here is 100-200 $ US in month. It is enough for living here but
it is not enough for buy visa and passport for 300 $ US.
Also please understand that nobody interests in our meeting therefore
please understand that it is very difficult for people here to give
such big money for me. Therefore I ask money help from you. Because I
think we are both interest in our meeting. Now I do not have
money for it. Hope you will understand me and my situation.
May be you have credit card. As I learned in bank you can send money
help to me using credit card. May be it will some easy for you.
But you know as I know you can send money for me using your credit
card, it will faster for you I think.
I have learned about our transfer system here and I know that you can
go to site and learn all about it yourself.
Here is address of this site. www.westernunion.com
So if you would send money via your credit card I will pick up it a cash.
You may choose a way of transfer yourself: cash or via credit card.
I have seen some answers in other forums that made me think she is not telling me the truth. Please tell me if she is right or not. I am thinking all this is just to get my money. Any input would be helpful. Thank you in advance for your help. And by the way, I already ran into several of the Nigerian scams. Women say they are from America but end up stranded in Nigeria. Or they want me to receive some checks for them to cash and send the money. I won't talk to anyone claiming to be in that country anymore.
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Move on this is a typical money for Visa Scenario. I don't know about the American Embassy in Russia, but getting a visa through a travel agency is bullocks. She would have to have had her packet mailed to her schedule an interview and previous to one day or so prior to interview she would need to have a physical done, not just a blood test. Also it seems she's trying to get your credit card number in a sly way. Very typical letter, I think they all have a template for this LOL!!
I think it goes like this. You send money for the visa. Then when shes about to leave to meet you theres a problem, she needs around $2000 to prove she can support herself in order to board the plane which she doesn't have, but she can pay you back when she gets to america because she has a job. Oh and she really loves you.
Or - she will simply GIVE YOU the money she needed to prove that she had, back - when she meets you (as if that's ever going to happen).
And you will look pretty stupid standing in the airport, with a big bouquet of roses, as the last person gets off the plane - and it isn't her.
I know a guy who was contacted by a scammer through Yahoo - who fell for this very scam. She(he? it?) sent him gorgeous pictures and he immidiately "fell in love". (and of course she was in love with him too - she told him.)
Knowing I had BEEN to the FSU and had a Russian speaking fiance, he asked me for my advice. I told him DON'T DO IT! pver and over again.
Undetered, he continued to write her and eventually DID send the money. To this day he will not talk about the incident. But close friends of his tell me that he went to the airport, roses in hand - only to discover that I was right. He left dejected. Of course it WAS a scam.
You didn't give a her name......check google sites for scammer black lists...surely you will find her name or pic there. Don't hear many of these types very much anymore. Anytime I hear girl say anything about visiting me, it
is probably a relationship going nowhere.
Actually - unless she is a repeat offender - and someone has bothered to report her, she's not going to be on a scammer list.
A smart scammer would hit up as many guys as possible, collect what (s)he could and then move on to use a different name and or pictures. And a lot of these scammers are smart.
It was only last week I was reading in the news paper about an American couple being convicted of fraud using this type of scam. They were posing as Russian girl and raking in the money. It seems there are still people falling for it. People still fall for the Nigerian scam. Unfortunately most of the people they wrote to and scammed will still be thinking it was Russians that scammed them.
Thanks for all the input. Will drop her like a hot potato. Can't find any decent women on dating sites these days. Does anyone know about chnlove.com for girls from China? Can anyone tell me if it is a good site?
Another important thing to know is that a woman from Russian can never get a fiancee visa if a man never came to visit her before. And yet, yes, it's difficult to meet a good person over the Internet, no matter if you are looking within your country or abroad, but it's possible. I got lucky, but it took me 6 years.
Photopics, her letter sounds like a huge scam, but don't drop her like a hot potato, play around a bit, tell her you at western union, ready to send her the money but there is a problem and you need her to phone you, Then you can see what her English is really like...ask her for a photo of her flight tickets, i did this to my girl, and she did.
Paying more money for a visa does not fast track it.
I dont't think it is good for you to look for a chinese girl.I am living in shanghai. To my opinion,the girls in china are out of their mind now.You can't image how madness they fall over themselves for money. Indolent,hypocritical,coony......I cant' describe the character of them particularly.But I can give you an advice,don't touch them,it's dangerous.
It seems that whenever prosperity enters newly into a society (when some country suddenly has opportunities open to them where they can "catch up" to the rest of the world) some women (some PEOPLE) go hoq wild after it.
There always remains some vestige of what used-to-be (humbleness, sincerity, etc.) to contrast with what has become.
I agree with your point. Just like a ghoul who had captivited in a cave for a great many years.Suddenly discovered a map of hiden precious deposits.Exciting leads to maze. To my mind,this is the model of chinese people actually.
I am a chinese man,also.Regret and despair can not enshrouded by dignity of nation. I would rather to be the man who try hard to seek the way out than to be a dying moneybags.
really?oh~~~~should I change my name which I used for 10 years?~~~~
My friends very like my name.Pity to hear that~~~~~~hehe
I think direct to the issue that is more useful than to discuss my name.
Agree?my friends
Ha! a DEFINITE scam! I fell for one like that myself :( ... idiot "I just knew it was too easy!"
Yes the Russian Embassy itself will not let her board an international flight unless she CAN show $1,000USD. this is an agreement they have with most western countries to try to combat scams and to avoid their expats from begging from the Govt. of the country they arrive in, AND to minimize costly deportations.
You could "play" with him [yes it's always a him!] a little ;) send a small amount thru Western union and have Interpol involved as he sends some girl with a forged passport and other IDs to pick up his present, he pays her about $50USD and she's happy as a lark! for other amounts she will ring you on his behalf ... just to win you over! Keep the emails as proof, if you can't be bothered with all that at least report her to your local internet crime authority, in Australia they have a site set up just for these reports, I'm sure they'll have something similar in the US. and EU. countries too.