Hello guys, I`m woman from Russia. I would like to find a serious man for marriage and for two years of my search I was almost ready to gave up with this because I have got an ipression that Internet dating is just very stupid game and I will never win in it. I`m very good looking, 28 years old, well educated woman, and would like to find somebody also smart and really SERIOUS. But during these two years I could not find somebody who is even 10% close to my wishes. Sorry to say but I have decided that all the men just play games in Internet and they never want something special and really serious.
Reading some of your posts here I have realized that there are many men who are also in search and who are dreaming about creating happy relationship. It have gave me new hopes and forces! Thanks and I will continue:)
It goes to prove that not ALL of the women are scammers as so many seem to think.
I met my lady at a Romance Social BUT she WAS listed with an agency (had a profile posted with pictures, the whole nine-yards). A woman HAS TO be listed with an agency in order to even be invited to participate in a Romance Social. And I am quite certain that she is no scammer.
There is a whole population of serious men and not so serious men. And there is a whole population of serious women and no so serious women. Letter writing is a very imperfect conduit between the two, but its the option most her have chosen to go with.
There are problems with meeting as well, misinterpretation of common everyday behaviors, doing or saying the wrong thing, nonrealistic expectations.
The stories Larissa has told me about guys that come over to Ukraine is borderline hilarious to sad. I feel for these girls that have to deal with the misfits that come there. When normal intelligent guys show up, it's golden for them. One day just bullshitting she told me some of the stories from her experience and experience of other ladies in Mariupol. If you're intelligent and beautiful looking lady she said you will get hammered with letters from idiots all over the world. Guys who think their money will overcome, their perverted ways, the momma's boys that show up that have no business even being away from home, reminds of a poster here south of the equator. It's pathetic.
I don't want to be too critical of our own ilk (guys who prefer FSU women). But I have to admit, every once in a while I see things and hear things about the guys doing the pursuing that make me feel pretty sorry for the women involved.
Some of us really ARE losers.
As I've said in other posts - there are guys doing this who will not be successful with women from ANYWHERE simply because they just don't have it.
FSU women are not going to just jump for anything that comes along. If somehow you DO manage to marry an FSU woman based on your money alone - you should EXPECT her (and you DESERVE FOR HER) to leave you just as soon as it is economically possible for her to do it.
There are other guys who fantasize and thats all it should ever be - is a fantasy. Because they consistantly try to bat out of their league (typical 60 year old guy - looking for the hottest 18 year old runway model). And they consistantly strike out.
Hey ladies and gents...
Thanks for the good posts... I am not 60 hahahha 32 and decent looking making good living in Edmonton Canada...the women are here are very MATERIALISTIC... I am not saying all but I am gonna use the site I have been registered for 3 years and every week I do recieve emails actually daily they are super attractive.. keep u posted
She wants a "Brad Pitt" lookalike with very deep pockets to go with it...only the Brads of this world can get women like Angelina!
Most men are not "Brad Pitt" and work very hard for a micro fraction what he makes!
...maybe she ran off, jet because you were not Brad Pitt!...its not meant as an insult.
Many of these girls have fantasy ideas about the west, that men live in fancy 2 storey houses with big backyards in Wisteria Lane and when they do come to America and find out you live in a dingy apartment in the centre of an over populated, over polluted, crime ridden big city..its a big turn off for them..thats why it don't last and they leave!
I live in a quiet suburb in a 1 storey, 3 bedroom wooden house about 40 years old..its not Wisteria Lane but its in a suburb of a smaller city of 200,000 people with a country feel but if she wants a big city of 4 million with all the shops, its just 1 hour down the road by train or car from me.
PS: its not applicable to me as I am not actively searching these girls anymore, I just come here to read comments and amuse myself when bored now! LOL
To nasfan jet and the other cheerleaders of what must surely be a fake post from a Russian lady. Here is what my wife wrote to her best friend (in Russian) months before we were married. Read this and know what goes inside the mind of an FSU lady that wants a Western winner like you two guys……When living in my country she loved to say to me “bad country” and always said Ukraine was better…….I also have in her own handwriting in English “I love this country, Ukraine I can’t stand”……..
Guys, leave em in Ukraine, it is all they know and deserve. Most do not deserve a better life, and the West can do without their scams, lies, sluttiness and thieving tricks. . If you take one West, there is a 90% chance you will regret it. Find one and live with her in Ukraine instead, that is what I am doing. Or better yet find a girl in your own hometown and abandon all fantasies.
“anothermug isn’t a gift, either. [Russian idiom, meaning “he is not perfect.”] But I know for sure what I want to achieve in life, and understand that in Ukraine, for the next 10-15 years, I have no chances; that’s why for now I comfort myself saying that if there are some unpleasant moments, I must endure them. Besides, I like this country so much. The most important thing is to hang on for these two years while something depends on anothermug. Overall, he is of course all right, although I can say that I’ve never been delighted neither with his age nor his looks. Rather, I was choosing the best out of the worst. Because there is no secret that such a country as ours is not thought very highly of, and all the wife-seekers think they are a great catch, while in reality they are usually below average. When I evaluated anothermug, I evaluated the possibility of living with him and controlling him some way or other, which actually in his case was a fairly good result. It is rather important how educated the person is, because that’s what determines how soft he will treat you.
I have been in this “I-wanna-marry-a-foreigner” business for quite a long time, and I know the evaluation rating of potential husbands. Words like “handsome,” “rich,” “pleasant in every respect” are out of place here – such men simply do not go to Ukraine. Many girls just take the one first one that comes their way, and later on, when they are already overseas, find themselves another one. What I’m saying is that when you are “there,” the choice is considerably bigger. How many decent, educated men who’s got money are there in Ukraine? Very few. And how many of them are single? Almost zero. How many chances do you have, working as hard as you do, to secure a stable future for yourself and your child? Of course, now certain changes have taken place in Ukraine, but it only means that about twenty more years will pass before the situation is going to become at least remotely civilized. And about a hundred years to return ecologically normal condition of the environment. What I’m saying is that for you, it’s important to decide right now what you want, you and nobody else, how satisfied you are with your existence. In my case, everything was very simple: everything was so bad that it couldn’t possibly get any worse. I am in no way suggesting that you should grab the first guy that comes your way; I have been there, and I can say that it strikes on your nerves. “
"...maybe she ran off, jet because you were not Brad Pitt!"
She didn't run off. As the only child of a widow, she couldn't leave her mother in Moldova. I told her that it was either married life in the US or I would find someone else. She stalled. I found someoen else. And now she continually tells me that WE were meant to be together. She asks me to drop the new lady in my life so that we can BE together.
Well, well, what a story anothermug. Leave them in Ukraine that's all they deserve. Sounds like you don't deserve too much in life or not very smart. You may not be very smart, or you may not be a catch, but that doesn't relagate many guys here who have went over and succeeded in this pursuit.
Decent men don't go to Ukraine, don't include me and others that have done well there. Hell you live there now that must make you lower than decent.
This is what has happened to this forum. Not an interchange of ideas of how to find, but the continual posts of losers that chime in all the time, whether they really have been to Ukraine or anywhere in the FSU at all. The constant hammering of guys thinking about doing this, then back off because the litany of frauds that have posted in this forum of how impossible that this is. Yeah when you go over with the mentality that this will be shooting fish in a barrel you get a real rude surprise. That and lacking any common sense will surely insure your failure.
Thank you Vivi and Anothermug for sharing your experiences. I am have been reading this post for some weeks now, ever since I joined, what I have learned here is it is just priceless. I also have such a good time reading the forum, much more than looking out, for it does not take a genious to realice that if you are only hoping to find that sacial somebody just using this website, you are in a losing position my friend as all the evidence in the forum points out.
True, maybe all of us men here are not Brad Pitt look alikes, but the baseline statement shared by Anothermug is worthy of consideration "I was choosing the best out of the worst", fellows, this is sad, cold truth. I am not passing judgment or generilizing, but it took me many years to post myself in a dating website, now that I did, I am thankful of the experience, I am even more thankful of those souls who have shared their experiences.
It has been an experience in itself reading the posts and see that many men head to the FSU hoping to marry a woman based on money alone.
For anyone to marry based on money is a recipe for failure as there must be attraction between a couple for a relationship to work out,no attraction will mean failure 100% of the time.
I don't think it is right to judge men who do this as momma's boys as they may be just misguided in their unrealistic expectations that they will find the perfect model on their first trip even though they are no model themselves.
anothermug I find your post interesting in that it is obvious the only attraction your girl has is for your country and not you.
The following sentence says a lot "I evaluated the possibility of living with him and controlling him some way or other, which actually in his case was a fairly good result".
This sentence alone says the marriage will probably fail or that both will be miserable,however I believe we shouldn't judge all FSU women by this woman,if you find a realistically compatible woman and don't try to buy her and go into a relationship based on attraction between both of you I do feel that it would stand a good chance.
Anothermug from what your girl said in her letter it is plainly obvious that they want to find the RIGHT man to marry so you have to ask yourself next time and be brutally honest am I the right man for her? Only you can answer this honestly.
"many men head to the FSU hoping to marry a woman based on money alone. "
if i was that stupid then i would be a stupid thing standing in a stupid place on a stupid day!
do men really think that? my girl is more "hot headed" than any girl i have ever met here, and doesn't want to depend on anyone else. as it happens she sends money to her parents every month, and wants that money to have come from her.
i have only thought that we could be together because for 6 months we have been sms'ing and calling each other.
sure now i am falling for her, she says when i can call, when she wakes (which is normally way less than 6 hours after we last talked! damn she needs to sleep more!) or when she could call me. or i tell her when we can speak outside of my work. but 6 months is a reasonable time...
she sent me some photos of her best friend getting married (the other week, when i spoke to her)... only two photos had her friend and her in the same photo. but that sealed it for me.
she could live too many miles away for me to see her, and i would feel the same, just don't go to see some girl *just* because she is from the ukraine, etc!
Hi guys.Just thought i would tell you about a friend of my girlfriend.She married a guy from Dubia.She is a well educated woman with a good job,been married for two years.Her husband is minted.More money than sence.Shes so unhappy she even left him for a while but he bought her a $50 dollor car to buy her back.It worked for awhile but she drinks alot every day so this helps her two forget.She cant leave him because he will find her he has conections all over moscow,She took a Russian lover he used to visit her but her husband soon put a stop ta this.She is trapped all the money in the world at her finger tips but no love for the man she married.These girls look for a way out.They think money is the answer.Even if they dont love the man life will be better because they have money.Only when they get what they want(A better life with money to buy real Gucci,Prada,etc not the fakes they have to save for that they miss that speical person to love.A hard lesson to learn.Buy the way my thoughts are it serves her right for being gold digger.