Hi to all!! I'm a twenty six years older boy from Milan
I read in this forum from above one months, and i like it for all suggestion contenets.
Excuse me, but my english is not perfect :P
I'm very interested to visit Ukrania, often in past i had vary girlfriend that came
from eastern countries..... and i like their mentality, also the beaty eh eh
My problem is that i'm particular because my father is greek and my mother african,
i live in italy,and i like to dress very well not like a rapper or other.
So i don't know how are seen in Ukrania people like me, and i'm quite afraid to find some nazi....
And to another side, i think that i am very visible as a foreign people...so..
I want to visit Kiev, and after Odessa and Crimea..
What do you suggest me??
I've seen a few black people in Ukraine AND Moldova. But honestly very few.
Music by black artists is very popular though. And I have heard a few women mention that they would like to meet a black guy, just because it would be different.
I have heard that many young moscowvites are very racist, i don't know about the rest of the country, unfortunitly most eastern european countries have a pretty poor record of tolerance to ethnic minorities, but this is only what i have heard, so please don't take what i say to be the complete truth, i myself often get asked if i am italian or Jewish or turkish myself.....I will find out next month when i am in Moscow!
The one girl I met 3 times in Ukraine told me she didn't like black people which was kind of a turn off of her I have to say. After she said it to me all I thought was "How many black persons has this girl met to come to the conclusion she doesn't like them since she's never been anywhere but Ukraine and Russia?"
When I was in the Kiev airport one time waiting for my plane to go home, there was a black man there who was a musician with a group of other people waiting for his plane to go home too. I was sitting right by him and I watched as a group of 20-something Ukrainian guys and girls walked past him and laughed and said bad things about him. I don't think he saw it but I did and it was another turn off for me actually. Racism and bigotry is always bad in my eyes. Deep down we're all people.
One guy I met when I attended the Romance Social was Indian (as in, from India). He was a young, tall, good looking very dark skinned guy; very well-to-do if I recall right. He had no problem getting beautiful model quality women.
As I recall - I do remember a time I was in LATVIA in 2004 - and talking to a girl about the possibility of her coming to America with me. Out of the blue she asked me if there were many n*****s living where I lived. I told her that in my country even the very use of that word would be offensive. Sne just asked me again.
Ok......
So i must be carefully, when i will go to Russia, and is better if i go in Crimea or near this countries..
In north there is more racism, i heard of a guy in Petersburg ,black student that was killed here....
The difference, i see also in Milan, is liked from many eastern girls ;)
And i had no problem here because my skin is dark but my features are more european
I knowed also many grandfathers of my friends that were in Mussolini era, and also with them i had no problem..
Because they tell me that i'm more italian that other.
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I'm worried about crime,there are many criminals in Crimea????
Because more one is visible more is probability of crime.....
The better question is...would the russian girls prefer you? I do find them kind of particular. You hope you
can get enough time to show off your good traits.
Often it's the racists who try to convince you of racism so you stay away from white girls.
Almost every cable provider in eastern Europe offers at least one rap music channel. Main thing, I think, is the looks, rather than the skin color.
In cases where girls themselves aren't racist, but their surrounding is, as long as the girl knows she'd live with you in a non-racist surrounding elsewhere, she may go for it.
thanfully political corectness and the constant brainwashing that comes with it has Not arrived in Ukraine and as long as black people do not arrive in ukraine in any large quantities there never will be stupid white people going around trying to ingratiate themselves to black people in the vain attempt to be liked and get respect from black people as they do in u.s u.k.
there is No anti racist movement in ukraine because there are no large quantities of black people there to run such an organization.
It is only is only in some stupid western countries where desperate white politicians have become so reliant on black voters to keep themselves in power that this mentality exists.
who is the racist?? if you are proud of your own race, you should date within your own race.
if a black guy is so proud of being black, than why does he go around trying to tag white girls,
as if is some sort of sick sport?? don't talk about "racism". that word is overused, contrived, bullshit.
it is only normal that most people prefer to date within their race. ask any traditional black folks if they really want
their daughter to marry a white guy, and the answer is an emphatic NO!!!! so don't twist the situation around with
any whiny bullshit because people from Ukraine or Russia would prefer to also date within their race.
that is an attraction for me, as a traditional white male. there will always be some freak who breaks the norm,
but it doesn't mean their children, their friend, their parents, or others are forced to approve of it, as if political correctness
is the new racism, the new mind control.
BEAVIS
i think that is why people on this forum search in ukraine for a WHITE woman.
If they seek a black woman - America dominican republic or africa is the place to search. Of course there wll always be some deviant that likes to prattle on about racism and lecture countries like ukraine and russia about racism.
Den in his post here has got it just about right with his observations about politicaly correct western English speaking society and the "what will black people think of us" mindset that dictates politicians every move.
But Ukraine is a white society and will always stay that way . It does not need to be held to ransom by minority groups and cave in to their demands.
Because i'm in the middle of all!!!!!!!!!
My father is greek, my mother african, i was born in italy, and so my cultural mentality obviously is western like yours!!
And obviously tradition, mentality, is of the country where i borned and where i lived for all my life!!
The problem is that i don't want to go in a country where people hate completely me...
(You can understand also my english is a very maccheronic italian english..)
tesfa, i guess the only way to find out what kind of response you will receive, is to visit for a few days.
I live in England, i had the impression that Italy was a racist country, mainly because of the football fans making monkey chants and having racist banners!
9davo, you say Ukraine is a white country and will always stay that way, as if there is something wrong with black people, don't forget that the jews living in Ukraine were white and Ukrainian, but that did not stop many Ukrainians willingly helping the Nazis to murder them !
why don't you go for Italian girls, I hear they like black guys. the point is not that you are not western, the point is that Russia is Eastern--it is a completely different culture than your own. you are just setting yourself up to be disappointed. they are not going to accept you, probably not now, probably never. it doesn't mean you're not a good person, you probably are. you just will be alot happier if you look for a lady in a country which will accept you and respect you more. If I was you, my first choice would be an afrikan lady. I have met some very sexy and educated ladies from Ethiopia, they were really hott and dynamic ladies. think about your long term happiness, and the long term happiness of your children.
also, you are not going to make any russian friends by saying there might be Nazi's there. they fought very hard to kill millions of Nazi's during WWII. try to look at things from their perspective, not from only your own perspective. respect another culture and race to have the right to NOT choose you.
best wishes.
I'm very curious, and so i like estern girls, and i had girlfriend from est! So i only want to visit eastern conuntries...
Then if i will find a girl here.....OK is good!!!
BUT simply i don't want to risk too much!!! My only worry is that i don't want to have problem with people.
I want to stay far from have a problem....
Like in italy i can stay in a stadium, but not in the middle of bad fans in a particular mach! (for zeeco :))
My mother came from Eritrea....
Oh BEAVIS you are right!! But if i like more from russia! And for nature...i'm intercultural, and i knewed many "mixed" families, that stay good with two cultural types..