Guys, forgive me, I had a few pivas while checking out the girls!!!!
Southern ukraine again. By the way, the french have the nose thing going like the germans!!!
Used the trains this time, what an experience!!!! If you are a first time train traveller, don't go into Kiev train station, what chaos!!!! I had a ticket and could not figure out where to go and not many friendly people willing to help!!!! I did finally find a guy to help, luckily I knew some russian and understood his directions. 15 tracks and as many trains going back and forth in the middle of night...get on wrong train and no telling WHERE you might end up. Couldn't sleep...guy next to was a snorer, great, when I finally woke in morning..cab was empty and I had no idea where i was at??????? Did I miss my stop??? Luckily train tracks ended in odessa. Good luck in trying to find your ride in a train station.
First couple days are relaxation before going to work!! :)))))
Anyone ever stop to think what you look like when you are walking around with a young beautiful girl and another girl is walking with you and doing much of the talking. The guy and girl have hands in their pockets about 1-2 feet away from each other!. Bingo!! Saw a few today, gosh I hope I don't look that stupid or should I say obvious. Girls were mid-twenties and guys.....well..overweight, glasses, 100% US look, old looking( I am older but not old looking). To say the least I had a chuckle, it did make me wonder when I am walking with a younger girl that all others see me the same way!!! Who cares anyway!!!
Does ukraine need a celebration to drink more???? I guess not, if you have a wine festival where there is free cups of wine served. Wine is priced $1.75-$3.50, it smelled like you were in a vineyard in the countryside!!! If you know me, I was at the booths with the finer looking women. If I only knew more russian!!! Have to say the women walking around were FINE, no ther way to describe it, were out in full force. Practiced my russian on a young girl who made I contact with me. Asked if she wanted to have dinner with me, she asked if her
friend can come too. I said sure,then I think(?)she asked what will we talk about....In broken russian,I said I just want to look in your eyes all night. She did laugh, I kissed her cheek and said dasvidania. Wonder what I could could do with the better knowledge. I did make a couple buys in russian. Had couple months of classes and home study but realize I am far from being at ease. More to come as days go by, i'll try not to get too specific...I know others are stopping for a view!!!! Take Care everyone!!
Train tickets there are difficult to read. When I was in the Kiev station there were a couple of older cleaning ladies there. They kind of adopted me for the time I waited there. Then they flagged another passenger down on the train I was to be on and motioned me to follow him. He got me to my seat. I will try to explain the ticket to you. On the top line is:
поезд=Train No=Number шифр=code Отправление=De parture чесло=Day Месяць=Month Часы=Hour Мин=Minute Вагон=Car Nо=Number тип=Type Цена=Price Грн=Hrevna Билет=Ticket плацкарта=Open birth осlб= Number Человек=People Вид=Type Документа=Document There will be values under each of these headings. The next line will state the departing city and the destination city in Cyrillics. On the line following will be
МIсця=Your seat Number
The next line has some garbage on it I do not know what.
The following line has your name last, first, middle
the next line will have your cost followed by what adds into it.
The next line says to arrive then station number and arrival time.
Here's the #1 tip for communicating when you're at the novice stage of a language: When it really matters, ask only Yes or No questions. And if they answer with anything other than Da or Nyet, say: "Da ili nyet..." and then repeat the question.
I remember asking things like, "Is this the right way to Arkadia beach?" You'd think that'd prompt either a yes or a no, but I ended up getting answers like, "Well, what you need to do is go two blocks and then cut through the park..." and so I stop them, "I speak Russian poorly. Please, Yes or No, is this the right way to Arkadia?"
Thank you Oz...where were you a couple days ago!!! Biggest problem I had was the track is not listed until maybe 1/2 hour before train departs, so you have to know where to go in a short period of time. I was there looking at the stupid board for almost 2 hours, didn't feel like lugging my large suitcase all over train station, it was bad enough lugging it a couple times up and down escalator to go to restroom.
Brilliant.......I have some of your insights on your trips, I think it is interesting to get someones thoughts of what they are experiencing.
Look you guys who are frequent flyers to Ukraine and FSU on this forum, why don't you make video stories on your trips there and send them up to you tube or myspace websites and put a link here to it.
Then people can see the real FSU and what its like and the girls and there can be no disputes or arguments over the place, seeing and hearing is believing...not written words.
The videos should show the unadultered truth...be fact and not a dress up of the FSU.
Real life videos including real life triumphs and real life failures would be a real expose on the place and might dispel the myths over the place.
It also might save some men a lot of money by ditching plans to go there when they see the truth and reality of it or get men to go!
after a few times you will get the hang of that ticket and trains.
yes i could imagine Kiev would be a bugger at night.
found a cleaner there who hated Brits, fock it was funny, idiot, i think it made it worse laughing at him.
yeah i got the squeaky bunk on one trip, i wondered if my Ukraine companions had sleeping problems to, for i did, make it worse it was my bunk.
usually beemer the lady running the coach sorts you out if you only speak english, just make it known to her in any strange way.
they were always really great to me.
just be careful getting off when you shouldn't.
they gave me grillings for this in there motherly type of way.
and don't close the toilet door when finished, so it cannot be locked by train system when you are getting close to stations.
you'll catch on to that one, always locked when ya need it.
Better yet Aussieman, since you continually post here about women from the FSU. Why don't you just pony up for the ticket and do the filming yourself you cheapskate.
I can set up a link to hundreds of pictures, who needs Youtube. Though pictures don't always tell the story. Just like the women from the FSU think there is gunplay on every corner in America, where did they get that idea from? Hollyweird.
Aussie...do away with your videos and pics....nothing paints a better picture than words decribing what you are seeing. Of course different eyes see a different picture, so it is best to get descriptions from various eyes to get the true picture. I don't see what another person there is seeing. There is no way I can describe that 5'9" 120 pound girl walking by me fully for you but to see her with my eyes from head to toe....there are some things you cannot put into words...heard the saying,'seeing is believeing', that probably descibes it best. What you don't understand Aussie, is nothing I can say that can fully describe what I see, maybe one day you will understand me. Ever been to sporting event...is it the same watching it on TV and actually being at the game..no, nyet, never....
This is not a reply. I just got out of a 13 year marrige with a girl from Kiev!(cost me a $$$$) but I'm back shopping for a new one! the girls in Canada are........... I like the young pretty slim! Ukraine still seems like the best! Is EM the best site? I know that the FSU girls are a bit nuts but at least they are good looking and they are good mothers!
Well guys...my first meeting...WOW, one of those rare times that the pic is as good as in person. Sorry i didn't get to check out those million dollar legs!!!!! But those tight black pants did show a very nice figure and a nice f**m booty. To my gladness, she had a great personality, we laughed and talked, made jokes, tried my russian with her, which also made her laugh, but she was touched with my ability to learn russian. Yes, we still needed as interpreter BUT my girl looked at me as she asked me questions as did I also, the interpreter seemed to be in background, which was great. She loved my small gifts, especially the flowers and the very nice smelling perfume. My daughter insisted girl would love scent...she was right on the money. So in girl's eyes, I was sitting pretty good. After dinner we walked the main sreet, trying to figure out what to do. We ended up in a cafe to chat for a while, I really enjoyed the eye to eye contact and her wanting to ask me questions, shows interest. We ended night we a nice kiss.....every cheek I could find. A am a gentleman not a sex tourist, we will meet again, I just like it slow, kind of weed out the scammers. Costs: Gifts- $35
Smile of my girl- Priceless
My kind of girl!!!!! Do we ever really know girls intentions....maybe never, but for one night, it was perfect. sorry guys, if it had blown apart I would give more deatails on where I am at. In the meantime, I will press on. I guess the best way to judge your feelings for a girl is to compare her to another girl. I could have fell head over heels and told you guys this IS the women but cooler heads always make the best decisions. More to come!!! Take care all!!!!
Thank you for your fantastic input to this forum. At times I wonder, like your new wife, why you bother, but.. you are an inspiration to me and I hope others, in that a search for a woman from the FSU is not a quick fix and it takes time, patience and understanding. I am about two years behind you and my I hope my outcome is as happy as yours.
well done mate,
you really are a star on this forum. Your quick wit and intelligent input here astounds me, and most of us serious people looking for a woman from the FSU. Please, let me know where you got your frontal lobotomy from, because I wish to have your sense of humour....
My first time here!! I am preparing myself for a holiday in Ukraine, I have been corresponding with few girls and I am going to meet them, a friend of mine that has been in Kiev has suggested to go to Kharkiv and surrounding areas like Poltava, also he say to try other regional towns but to avoid Kiev!! Is Kiev that bad? any one in this forum that has some experience on this? Cheers
Kiev is fine. It is a large cosmopolitan city so the girls are not so impressed with stories of what its like back home because they already have much that can be had right there. You actually need to be able to sell youself to make an impression.
Thank you GeminiD, I am going alone for just 2 weeks so I thought, if that was the case about Kiev, to spend my time more productively in a more productive place…..sort of speak… I can sell my self ok where I am, but I thought to look for something different, so is that means that girls from provincial towns are easier?
I will visit UK for the first time, Odessa and Nikolaev, I am 45 so not sure if ladies in the 30's are frequently found.
I am planning a hotel more than a flat, I do not feel secure in a flat.
I do not have a lady or ladies, should I still go or better try later.
I was wondering if your friend Inna, can actually help, maybe worth to meet both kind of ladies the ones who want a serious relationship and one to hava some fun.