I am going to Odessa and Nikolaev for the first time. I have all the trip ready except that the two ladies was going to meet after got some money will be busy now.
I wonder if I should still go or just bag it.
Should I contac Inna and see if she can get me a nice place maybe help to meet a nice lady for serious and a nice lady for fun.
All trip ready?????? And you need a place??? Who is Inna...is she from a previous post from jonny months back???? I agree with zeeco.....gone after 'got mony'. this isn't like 'got milk'????
OM
Your post generates more questions than answers such as. Do you know the language and culture? Did you have interpreters lined up or were these ladies guiding you?
In my opinion if you have it lined up and can afford it I would go. But if these two ladies are the only ones you are meeting and you do not know the language (they were going to guide you) you will need to spend some other moneys for Interpreter/guide. A good Interpreter/guide will be able to get you meetings with ladies. In these situations do not expect to get sex or put a ring on the lady and bring her home. Time will probably be too short for this kind of seriousness. You may be able to meet and establish a start of a relationship.
I went to Dnepropetrovsk last year in a similar situation. My friend had cooled off in our correspondence. I called her on the phone a month before I was to go. I know some Russian and she knew less English than I did Russian. I understood she was in the Hospital but could not understand why. Alarmed I called a friend Irina from Kharkov and told her Natalia is in the hospital I dont know why can you call and find out. Irina called back saying Natalia was in the hospital she had not been diagnosed yet but even worse Irina said the feeling for you seems to be gone. If you proceed with your trip I think you will be very disappointed. I told Irina that the ticket were purchased and if that was the case we would end the relationship face to face. This happened and we ended as friends. I found out later she had met a high school sweetheart and they had hooked up. Cant blame her a bird in the had is worth 2 in the bush.
I met another lady in Dnepropetrovsk but the next day the agency told me she had been called out of town on business. Yeah right!!
So I caught a bus up to Kharkov hired one of Irina's guides and spent 5 wonderful days there. Met a nice lady there that I spent every evening with, enjoyed one day with a family there that were learning English.
So you can have a great time there even if your plans fall through. If you do not have a guide lined up you can hire one at http://discover-ua.com.ua/ They are not associated with a marriage agency but know how to deal with them to get meetings.
I do not speak Russian English only and I do not worry precisly about money, once I go is an inverstment but I do not want to be goofy, I use hotrussianbrides.com and is not a place to find, they keep sending young ladies to say hi, and one continues answering a "no polite" and your credits fly.
Both ladies speack english, I had chat and called them, limited English but enough to answer me about their home andlife. But I wonder if they will show up. A friend meet them in the hotrussians.com and he left and came back and no one showed up.
Thanks for the advise and the site to find a guide, Land of Oz.
BFK i will check the site if she is there is bad news, I guess?
I think is very iffy situation, my friend also took one to Turkey he saw in the airport, she left him from the hotel and then so her at the airport whe she was leaving, the girls are from Mariopol. Does not matter the city anywhere in UK seems to be a risky bussiness.
boredfukka,
Let's give Martin a break, good buddy. He does seem to have lost a lot of his aggression, and you must admit he holds a wealth of information useful to this forum.
Welcome back Martin.
Hi Zecco I actually live in Mexico and speack English, not write or type to Enlghish man level., and I wish the ladies in UK do not find my English that bad, I have a home in Texas and make nice over quater of mill. Does not mean I wish to get screw.
If you guys think I should not do it, I will probably cancel the trip and go Brazil and Argentina, but believe the latin woman, nowdays are only looking at the dls/money not at any good intentional man, and if it is the same for the UK ladies better not doit for me.
tringa,
Give me a break from what? All that idiot can keep on about is that I apparently live in Rushden, I have never lived in Rushden and although I previously lived in Northamptonshire I have since relocated having started my own group of companies.
It will take a few more strokes to cross the Atlantic than it did for the Rio Grand. Sorry I just had to say that nothing personal.
You give us such power to control your destiny. This all depends on whether you want to see Ukraine or not. You made the time you have the money. Why wouldn't you go.
I met less gold-diggers in Latin America, but met more prostitutes in the agencies. ;0
Met a lot more gold-diggers in Ukraine who need millionaires or very good lifestyle for them to want to give up the local men they date while they are in the agencies trying to lure a rich guy to them. ;0
Hey Apal..how are you doing?????
Guess you and OM should meet an compare bank notes!!! :))) He makes over 1/4 of mil
OM, hola!!.....going to ukraine is not an investment, its a minefield. If you got money to throw around you could have some fun but its hard to find the right girl because like girls everywhere, they tell you what you want to hear and what they want. Very few guys go once and find a girl, it is a long and tedious process to find a wife. I would rather go see girls I write to than to go in cold, maybe if you knew russian, you might have a better chance. Good luck..I have my own thread with some real experiences through my eyes.
Agree strongly with beemer. :) It's not the same as it was a couple of years ago. I don't know how many girls I have tried to strike up a sincere conversation with, but not a one will give me some sort of "real" side. You do have to meet. And you do have to realistically consider this girl in most cases does not want to work when you marry...
A girl on a website is a completely virtual girl.
I also agree very strongly that more than one will write exactly what they want you to hear. And even GladiatorUK finally broke up with one who was very cunning. I met and almost married a complete socialpath 19 yr old gold-digger who would have done the same to me.
To them, a path to material wealth is their ultimate aphrodesiac. Of course, of course, not all are like this - but you will find out in person that a lot are... and it is more common with each new hot young thing (HYT) who comes in on these dating sites from their agencies.
I have done business in Ukraine. I can say first-hand these girls do live in a corruption-prone environment, where the lure of greed has replaced the old need for a simple man who can provide financial stability. In the last few years, there have been many very rich (looks-challenged) "not so good-looking, older men from the west who have given most of these girls their own impression of a 'successful' marriage.
It doesn't matter if you agree with what I write, but that's because the girl you are writing, is writing words you want to believe...
Wealth equates to their self-worth and low self-esteem for feeling not as special as their western female counterparts.
I'm still holding out for the true humble and hot young thing. ;p
Haven't found anyone close to this ideal yet... I pretend I don't really have money. Give it a try and see how fast the tone of their letters will change.
... because your going to have to tell her eventually anyways. Might as well get it out of the way with some letters before you meet her a few weeks later.