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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Why are you disappear? Are here any serious guys? Author Post Vivi Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 3:23:37 AM   Hi guys. My name is Olga and I`m a woman from Russia, 28 yo. I`m looking for my one and only for 2 years now. I have got a feeling that all these guys who have wrote me were not serious at all. Let`s say, they write a couple of emails and then disappear. I wonder, why do they waste their time (and also mine!) and money? Also some like to write emails very much, but when comes for meetings, they became not sure...they do not want the meeting. But what is the reason to correspond for years, if we can meet and see if this is right person or not? Well, I`m not the only one who is disappointed with Internet dating. One of my girlfriends have had a very good correspondence during several month. He was from USA. He was going to come here to Russia. Suddenly his wife (HE WAS MARRIED!) got to know about his correspondence. Of course meeting was not possible and not needed anymore. Men, who are married- why do you write single women who would like to get married?? My girlfriend is abosolutely upset about all this and me the same. Is this all only a GAME for you??? nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 6:57:52 AM   Try to find russian boyfriends meanwhile:))))))) joke:) internet is sort of a game, and one cant take it too seriously no matter how bad u feel after such stories and incidents (maybe i m trying to convince myself that i m too naive to believe i can meet smb here...:)) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 7:09:49 AM   Vivi was Aussieman writing you? kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 8:16:20 AM   Vivi you are not alone, its frustrating dealing with this stuff. we have to travel to ladies then find its a game to them. ladies should always make a point of surprise phone calls at a dinner time for man they write to. its money worth spending for you. wife is always close to a mans stomach. Olga its possible only 15-20 percent men are truly serious that write, it seems this is the same for ladies unless hes a money man. largely it is a big game surrounded by a very serious few. if you pretended to be a man and search Internet for lady, you would be surprised what we have to go through in time wasting to find serious. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 8:35:12 AM   Hello Olga: I am happy to see you bring these points up because men need to know the problems the women face and realize the difficulties and disappointments from a womans point of view. The sad truth is that many guys are not serious or are married and only want an ego trip on the Internet. As with the few scammers in the FSU these men give a bad name to all seeking foreign relationships. But mixed with these Internet Romeo's are some good men. Finding love is not easy. As the old saying goes you have to kiss a lot of toads before you find a prince. It is very hard to tell who is who until you correspond for a while. And I wish you much success in your search. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 10:26:21 AM   It is said that 95% of guys that write letters are wasters, by replacing the letters 'st' in wasters with 'nk', I believe this gives the general scenario. Thus the ladies get f*cked around by the guys far much more so than the guys get f*cked around by the ladies, sure we have a right to complain of being scammed or having travelled with no-one to meet us, but just imagine how many wa**ers have told a lady to meet him at the airport whilst he remained at home, rooted behind his computer, saying a similar thing to a number of other ladies. I guess this corresponding by letter has been going on for some 15 ish years now and like most things it has passed it's sell by date, it's become too commercialised and indeed ridiculous. It seems the only way left is to get on the plane for eyeball to eyeball contact and whilst some farther afield, perhaps a 5' 7'' shortass tw*t somewhere in Australia, might not agree with this at the end of the day to see the process through to the end is going to cost multiple thousands of dollars/euros thus do you want to be one of the 95% or the one that says 'bollox, I'm going to get my ass on a plane and do something about it'? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 10:30:14 AM   Vivi.....thank you for your post, it is interesting to hear a story from the 'other' side. Men can be just as bad, if not worse, than ladies. I always make a point in beginning of letters to state that I am not a letter writer, I am serious about my search. That meetings are important to know if we are compatible. Don't lose hope....What keeps me motivated is the thought of meeting a girl that develops into love. I think everyone has negative experiences, it happens in looking for relationships, it takes two people to make it work and only one to tear it apart. Good luck Vivi Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2007 9:24:10 AM   Hello everybody! Thanks for the answers:) nasfan6- Assieman? No he did not write me. I am also glad that I have found this forum- like beemer18 says, to see the story from other side. We have such forum also for Russian women, this is all about Russian women looking for foreign husbands and they share their experience- good and bad. Many of women are looking FOR YEARS, one very good woman was looking for 6 years and she have said to everyone- girls do not give up, you will find what you want. I have noticed how different are foreingers and since that time I cannot have relationship with Russian men. I do not know if it`s good or bad??? I agree that nefative experience is also experience...I just afraid that when I will mee in Internet HIM, I will not believe him also...because of all these bad things. This is what concerns me;) My girlfriend owns her marriage agency and she have put me to the different websites, and here also...we always try something new. Well I guess this is a lottery and somebody wins at the end:) Badpenny Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2007 2:23:23 PM   Vivi, There are good and bad and "Flaky" people, situations, etc. everywhere it does not matter where in the world you are. 45-50% of marriages fail here in the U.S., Infidelity is huge problem here too. Believe positively that that world has millions of candidate good husbands. Like being in sales, the number of "leads" and lead flow is the key-so your exposure in as many places to show your photo as possible is important. I don't know if the agencies require exclusivity solely to their agency- but that cannot help your odds. If you feel it's a lottery then the odds are stacked against you. "Trying something new" is the way to go! Patience too. As for me, my reality is the odds are against me, I am optimistic though, patient and I will keep looking and enjoy the journey. Check this out: I want to find someone who enjoys her work, knows english already, wants to continue to work and be a business person ( I will start a new business for her to run) age 28-38 who does not have children, nor has deep in her heart to have them! I do not want to get married immediately either, I want to date for several years.... I will move where she lives too. I am not looking for the normal situation. Nationality does not matter really- even American. I have plowed through 100's of profiles and unfortunately most of these websites do not have an advanced search feature that states "Wants kids"... as I want to eliminate those ladies from the search and not have to individually read them all. My first wife I was with for many years, married through writing also- we did not date enough and never should have married but did the best we could. Vivi Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 4:05:20 AM   Hi Badpenny! Nice post thanks! I would say we have some common ideas. I like what you have said about her to run her own business ( and you will help her to start). This was my idea too, I must say that men mostly did not support me in this my wish. I want him also to have his own business or to have free lance job. I would like him not to have children. To be single or divorced. Unfortunately the majority or men which have wrote to me, were not even 10 persent close to my "perfect" match. I use the word perfect with "" because nobody is perfect...but he can be perfect FOR ME. Mostly they have some children already, or they would like to have passive woman to be at their home...bad idea for me. I`m not also interested to get merried immediately, it takes time to get to know each other of course. Like we say easy come- easy go. For how long are you in search Badpenny? ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 6:09:51 AM   Being able to relocate to where she lives is'nt something everyone can do but if you can I say do it. I have done this and its great, since I work as a contractor I am on the road 50% of the time and so there no point living in the UK or US. The cost of living is lower of course. It also means your girl can work, visit friends and family etc and not sit at home alone. It would be ideal if she wanted to run her own business but i think finding a girl like this is not easy also! Good luck Vivi and don't give up. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 8:11:03 AM   Too echo the 5%, what percentage of that 5 aren't idiots misfits and morons 10%? After talking to my wifes friends it seems they have as difficult of a time sifting through the chaff as we do. Some real strange characters makes these trips to the FSU. I remember on one of my last trips to Mariupol I had this mechanic from New York riding behind me. He heard me speak English in Kiev at the airport, I was talking to two ladies who were from Simferopol who work as acrobats in a Circus show in Vegas and they were on their way home to visit family. We were having coffee at airport when he walked off to check on his tickets to Donetsk. The two girls just shook their heads and told me this guy didn't have a chance in Ukraine. He was a bit strange and on the flight to Donetsk he just drove me crazy, telling how much he loved this girl etc, etc. I asked him how many times he had met her. This was his first trip. He had to be about 40 and she didn't look much older than 19. Well she did meet him at the airport in Donetsk, my wife was there waiting for me with Sasha our driver. I introduced her to him as we were leaving, she made the similar comments that the two girls did in Kiev. Though she said that was typical American that was coming to Ukraine to meet women, some real strange characters. What I feel is, many guys going to Ukraine from the states are real bustouts in America and why do they think they are going to do well in Ukraine?The big myth, that these ladies are looking for a better life, materially so their shortcomings as human beings won't be noticed so much because of where they live. These guys get a rude awakening. The truth is they are looking but you can't be a total loser no matter how much money you have. These ladies are a hell of a lot smarter than that. This isn't shooting fish in a barrel. If you don't do well with the ladies in the States your surely not going to do any better in Ukraine. The majority of women aren't looking for that meal ticket, at least not the serious ones. Also on the flip side most aren't looking to move any farther than western Europe. A small majority might come to America, but you better bring something to the table for them to do that, and that is not money, they can find money in western Europe. Those things are what you bring in yourself, character, honesty and the ability to give genuine affection and attention to a relationship. You can't be self centered or arrogant, they have plenty of that at home. I don't know much about Russian women, but one thing I have found with Ukrainian women is they have this sense about guys, they can read them very well. They can spot a loser a mile away. Just because we traveled 5000 miles to meet these girls doesn't mean they have to genuflect at our mere presence or not walk away at the moment because we are idiots. They will do this. Especially if you made a lot of inferences and promises in letters ahead of time and you don't act according when you arrive or are way different than you described. I can sympathize with what these ladies have to put up with. I've heard too many stories to repeat here. It amazes me these guys would go through all this trouble and be absolute zeros in life, then come back to forums and write how despicable the women in Ukraine are. I've met some of my own country men and a few guys from other countries. I can understand what these ladies endure. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 8:38:46 AM   There was one American who arrived into Zaporozhye somewhere around 6 o'clock in the morning and phoned the lady, at that time, to ask for a meeting that morning. Not only had he woken her up but when she explained that she had to work but would like to meet him in the evening he made his excuses. I was out for dinner that same evening with that lady, she's a friend, and we had a good laugh that this guy was travelling Ukraine just phoning ladies and the reason he made excuses for the evening was because he was already seeing another lady. With that I borrowed her mobile and phoned this guy laughing at him that he had blown it, that I was now out for dinner with this lady and I thanked him for having made himself unavailable :) Britman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 7:33:40 PM   send me your photo olga ... mikeyukraine@yahoo.com and lets see if we match;-) FSUfemale Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 8:21:15 PM   Olga, you should think really hard if you actually want one of those as a husband, I'm telling you. There is no alternative to finding a soul-mate from your own race. I wish I did. Nothing personal, guys! Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 9:26:27 PM   Oh FSU you brought a blast of cold air in with you. Shut that door please : -). But I cannot say that it is bad advice. Of course if you can find your true love next door it would be better but if you can't I saw a movie once where a girl kissed a toad and it turned into a prince. But I don't think that toad was from around here though. Of course nothing personal is taken FSU I just couldn't resist replying. And I am sincerely sorry to hear that all of your dreams have not come true with your partner and that you wish for a different life. I have nothing to offer but an open ear and a closed mouth but you are welcome to that. Best wishes beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2007 10:17:54 PM   FSU girl....what is wrong with just your soulmate??????? Why does race matter? Sometimes you can see better with both eyes closed and your ears open. The heart cannot see, it can only feel. I am sure Olga doesn't want one like your husband...not all guys are the same. You know what is funny, if I came up to you and spoke perfect russian, you'd think I am from your race. So to know for sure ask, where are you from? and that answer will determine whether you will be my soulmate!! Doesn't sound so good putting it that way. By the way..I am from the human race!!!! :)))) FSU girl.door is there, on the other side is where you want to be.....it is your choice what you want to do!!!! Make the right choice.......my best to you!!!! Vivi Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/2/2007 1:52:42 AM   Britman....I do not need to send my pictures to someone who I do not know...so he could make his opinion about me. I know everything about myself without it and do not need it. I used to make a choice by myself. And I have to say that I`m here not because I would like to find somebody here...not at all. I wanted just to share my ideas and to read the answers. From reading all the forum I have realised that only 10% of guys here, with whom it would be interesting for me to talk. Unfortunately only 10%) So I understand women which say that from 100 emails only 1 email worth to reply back. It`s a opinion of one woman who is in search for a long time already-around 3 years. FSUfemale Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/2/2007 3:41:55 AM   Don't worry, Beemer18, I know where the door is. I will use it one day. BUT if you even spoke perfect Russian to me we still wouldn't understand each other with half word because we are from different planets unless your Grandma was Russian and read you Russian fairy tales when you were a child. And vice versa. We both can be very knowledgeable and highly educated which make us universal human beings but we're talking about finding a SOUL-MATE aren't we? Land of oz, in our folklore that toad was a girl and it was kissed by a lad to turn into a Princess. Afterwards it took her a helluva lot of efforts to meet his needs and please him... Well, this is a long story. Don't want to hijack Olga's thread. Disappeared :))))))) Britman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/2/2007 6:13:16 AM   and martin is one of them Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Why are you disappear? Are here any serious guys?
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