hello every one. i have red that most of the guys here were talking about how sincer the girls they met are. i hope that what am i going to say here will help even just a little. since i have experience a long distance meeting and relationship and now married.and i am a girl so i know what the girls are in asia. i do beleive western women and european are quite diff. you can easily know if the girl loves you if they do care about you. dont show them you like them very much right away. start with friendship and make her fall inlove with you. dont tell her your rich.if you dont want a gold digger. and notice if they tell you something about money ask her some questions. dont ever offer her money for a help. if she stay on you even if your not giving her something theni guess she truely love you. and one if she said she love you, then try if she really did by not mailing or talking ot her for few days. if she email you or and ask you why your not mailing her anymore or what so ever then she does care and like you. thAts all.
some tips of yours may be useful, but not all of them.
i cant agree with u, Mrs Zoo, that people who r in love should prove their feelings with making smb await a message for a few days. maybe it may do u a favour and u would know after all that the guy/ girl loves u, but it may play a low-down trick with u - misunderstanding is so vicious:)
as far as money is concerned i also gave the same advice not to mention the income. but it may be not quite applicable since the same income may be huge for one person,and miserable, or at least not enough to live happily for another . i heard of the girls who just married foreigners and did not care too much abt the salary, and only thought of getting a visa and citizenship.
Very sound info I think, and (hopefully) any guy that wants to date an FSU woman will already be following your guidelines and if not, then why not?, if not they may suffer the rather unpleasent consequences of being scammed, or maybe just taken for an idiot. Guys, there are some real nice and genuine girls out there, you just have to find them! and be careful in the process :-)
zeeco, its up to you if you want to apear rich but i advice you not to do it. coz you see anywhere in the world there are gold digger who is waiting for rich guys.
Brit was right there are SOME but not much anymore.only rich countries are getting richer. so the harder the life goes the more the gold digger came out.so man with good intensions should be really carefull.
I guess both side should be wise then. be sensible. life is easy if you will make it easy and hard if you will make it hard.
Hello,
thanks for your insight, however, you must be one of very few who are actually sincere. I think the more appropriate words for all the Ukrainian girls I have met are devious, disrespectful, dishonest and downright crafty. I have travelled to almost 50 countries and in no country have I encountered such dishonesty as in my numerous trips to Ukraine. So, no, your comment about sincere does not ring any bells with me Im afraid!
I guessed right then. Challenges in relationships are:
A. Matriarch relationships. (The men are weak)
B. (2) different faces- one public, one personal.
C. Bribing and "White lies" are understood and acceptable.
D. Face saving rituals and intermediaries required.
E. Loss of Status can be fatal for the person causing it.
F. Extended families interfere with husband and wife relationships.
G. Children are raised to fear their father
H. Uneducated governness's raise children and spoil them.
I. Children are the social security for parents.
J. Expensive status symbols required- Jewelry, Expensive Cars,
H. Cronism and Nepotism.
These traits are not unique to one specific country... but I've determined
they apply to "C".
hmmmmm!!! i believe guys are very keen...how can you say that those traits are apply to c? have you been to that country? where else have you been in asia?
why do you guys what to know where i came from? does that matter. and iam not here to search for a partner. im married. i hope you guys dont get me wrong and dont think im bad. :)
Mrs Zoo: When you come to this forum in another thread to ask how to get a visa to UK how do you expect to get an intelligent answer by keeping that information a secret. Are you just playing a guessing game. Since you are on a Russian forum most assume you are from the FSU so they answer accordingly, if you are from another country this information is not valid. I do not think the Uk will give you a visa for throwing darts.
Land of oz,
Makes me laugh, I wish more guys appreciated it is a 'Russian' forum, almost every single damn thread either starts off as or drifts across onto 'Ukraine' and it really has become quite boring.
Could anyone comment on this
meet the lady, great time,
I took her for vacations Egypt, my offer, my fault,
she asked me for money, right before leaving to Ukraine
I gave 600 EU and now she tells me needs a note book and money for internet. She does not sound all real on the phone she knows I can afford because of my work and the way I dress hotels I payed and other.
I bought her several things, I do not know how to know if she is also a just a gold digger I do not need that
Her name Natalia, Us last name and she is from Mariopol her cousin is Olga from same town and seems very much the same, one blonde the other black hair,
Natalia is beautiful and wonderful, but I am affraid a fake.
Martin if you ask half of the people in the US where Ukraine is they would tell you it is in Russia. It seems the Soviet Union was referred to in conjunction with Russia so much here that people thought Russia was the whole pie. Most dont even know the other FSU countries exist. They would be more likely to tell you Siberia is a country instead of part of Russia than some of the less prominent real countries. Of course it does not help when they change their name every 100 years or so. I think I have been guilty of addressing Ukraine in some of the threads but in this particular application I looked up where it said Russian Brides on top of the forum and used it. Just lucky I guess
She sounds like a gold digger to me OM. How was she communicating with you before you met and how often. This could be an indication as to whether she is using an Internet cafe or already has her own computer. How quick did she answer you. Check the ip number on her emails did they all come from the same ip number. When you bought things for her did you just buy them or did she suggest it.
If you were telling her how you made so much money and all like you were on the forum before and you are engaged to her she might think it is nothing to you and feel it is proper support for the woman you are going to marry.
One thing pretty sure. If you refuse her the money you will probably find out whether she likes you or just your money.