Can you not find a woman in your own country that you have to resort to wasting your money to find a mail-order bride? No wonder marriage isn't sacred, you all will marry anyone no matter what. And please don't bother with the "American women suck" or "American women aren't beautiful" those excuses are lame.
But if you are that desperate (and I'm definitely including soldiers here) PLEASE find one that speaks proper English for once!!!
it's too bad you have the the stero-type 99.9% of Americans have on this. The internet along with the fall of socialism created an opportunity. That opportunity is the fact that MAYBE our better second half is half way around the world. Maybe she is right next door. But I beleive we have to utilize all resources to find what could be the best friend of our life!
If she is in this country...GREAT! But what if she is in the Ukraine? Well...Thank God for this resource then!
The girl I met doesn't even like to cook! I would have to cook! That is fine with me. Her favorite dessert is cheesecake and my favortie thing to cook is cheesecake! I told her she has to do the dishes though. I don't think she was happy about that.
Actually right now she's not a happy camper at all. Turns out there are a lot of problems I wont get into right now. But it turns dark very quickly. This is unfortunate. I really liked her. I looked in a database of over 45,000 women. I did a search criteria and whittled it down to 9,500. I spent two weeks doing a detailed search on those 9,500. A lot seemed like great ladies but one stood out inparticular.
I decided to put all my stock into that 1 girl. I figured I'd get to know her as a friend and hopefully have that relationship grow! We talked for a few months. Some things started to bother me...like for instance she would only talk about subjects I brought up. I figured if she was into me she would ask some questions. However I accepted that it was hard to really "talk" with just letters and it is kind of awkward.
We met November 2nd. To say things took a turn is an understatment. At first you couldn't say, "a turn for the worse" or "a turn for the better." Let's just say a turn. Vaugue I know but...I am still trying to wrap my mind on what happened.
Actually it's been over a week since I've been home and really...I have wrapped my mind around what happened. It just hurts too much to be able to write it down in a logical sense.
I am 100% positive that if I shared what happened the vultures would come out and rip apart these two ladies. My girl and her friend the "translator". It's too easy to rip them apart. Yet I know some things about them and they are not bad people. Maybe they have done some wrong things and made some very wrong choices but I spent five days with them.
Ok I was rambling...It definatly is different. The people on the surface are much colder and everyone will take advanatge of you. In that sense....I figured out how maybe these girls are taking advantage. That is what hurts. Finding out their MO. BUT they also kept me from being taken advantage of. If they could save me 10 bucks on a taxi ride by telling me to keep my mouth shut they did! The translator liked to cook so half the time we ate at the apartment. I definatly am not looking for a June Cleaver but it was nice to save the money! I was able to buy my girl some nice clothes because of it! That made me feel good and it made her happy!
I don't think any guy has in mind to "Bop" a girl on the head over there and drag her back to his cave. Guys are guys the world over and women are women the world over.
So why go looking over seas? For me there are mutliple answers. Having cultural differences are nice. I like learning the 2nd language. In relationships I notice most people get sedintary (sp?) and having a foreign wife or husband makes you get up off your butt! You need to work harder so you can afford to travel! I like traveling. It makes you work harder in the relationship because things get lost in translation! Ohhhhhhh boy do they! It helps you to become more understanding and it is humbling too. I like to think that if I find a girl over there that she will become acclimated here in the US and find friends easily and fit in. This however is a challenge too. And really...it could take three years after you have already taken the "plunge" with your better half before the relationship starts to really grow!
For me...dating an American become boring much too quickly. Maybe it's because I am boring...I can accept that. So at least...for me this helps me not be so boring!
And as far as your last comment. Any guy that is serious about this should take the effort to learn their better halfs native language. And as far as YOU go Ms. realamericangirl....you can go jump in a lake...I can tell right away I wouldn't want you with your prejudments that have built a wall. You being behind that wall thinking to yourself you are so right and have everything figured out.
For me...I do not have everything figured out. Maybe I never will. And to that extent I keep learning and really begin to appreciate people, their cultures, background, their goals and desires.
hell i must be missing out, where is the mail order bride department?
wow girly is your brain a no brainer!!
no wonder we have so many Americans on here:)))
fundamentals of a lot western women, opens mouth before they think.
big hug to you girly.
bit of a late maturer there.
REALAMERICANGIRL Your and many American womens, bitterness to this forum is the epitome of why we do not find women in America. Once divorced many people are more cynical, material based and goldigging. Something we are all conscience of here. Many American women are 50% heavier at age 30, than they were at 17, while European women are not.
As far as cost? The women I meet in my neighborhood most likely will expect a large wedding, A big rock, expensive honeymoon. None of which my eastern european wife had ever imagined or expected. Several trips there can easily be offset by this.
I expect your post is out of fear. I have noticed my friends wife's avoid contact with me anymore and I believe it is because they fear their husbands may be intrigued by this endeavor. I have known some of these friends since college and not one of their wifes are within 30% of their weight that they got married at. Do you think that the combination of weight and bitterness is attractive.
There is amrket for everything and this website proves it, who ever said one that to be confined in one particular region?? I am form Venezuela, a place famous for the beauty of its women, yet I feel attarted to the FSU ladies as well. Heck, if there was a dating site like this one woth americam women I would look into it, but (excuse my internet failure) I have not found it, in fact, most inetrenet dating site of americam women even ask you how much you earn??!!! (not the the FSU women are not wanting to know, but hell, not in the website)
I do not consider my self lame, nor I have excuses, I like women from everywhere
What an interesting thread this is. We love acronyms in the US - saves all the typing, but RAG seems entirely appropriate. Emotional response that crosses the line into the histrionic often has a basis as a reaction. What happened to you RAG? Well, in fact RAG is quite right, many of the fellows who pursue an international relationship are desperate, and nothing will come out of it for these fellows. On the other hand, no, it is true, AW in many ways do not measure up - just do a browse through Match.com. I find hypocrisy in AM who complain of porcine AW while packing a bit too much pork themselves, or who want a perfect princess of decorum and culture but who who speak as if they had potatoes in their mouth. You know allot of people in America are on a downward escalator. The post WWII days are over. But these people keep on serving up the same old sh** and think there is gonna be someone there to eat it. It is true that the fall of soviet system has created an opportunity for men in the US. But unions only work when people are on the same par. Most of the flatulent fellows who are off to the FSU are gonna get dumped eventually, for the same reason that many flatulent AW are getting dumped, no one wants someone like Ms. RAG. Here is Ekagra's advice to the men here, take the opportunity the FSU offers you to up your game rather than think that because you have a master card that you can buy a princess. AW will get pissed off either way, it is good for 'em, and they will come around, and correct some of their more unseemly behaviors as a result, in the same way that AM will get the picture too once their FSU princess dumps them.
The only desperation is to settle for a prozac laden, issue oriented, life stressing, greedy, self centered american woman. I'm far from desperate and tried the American woman thing a few times after my divorce. It was the same thing over and over just wrapped up in a different package.
Marriage isn't sacred, yeah right. Tell that to the woman when she goes through divorce and bitches about the job you have and the business you started. Oh yeah she likes the money but hates the business, then when it's time to talk to the lawyer, everything she didn't want to have anything to do with, she now wants it all. That's called hypocricy and typical in the American woman.
Nice slam on the American serviceman that protects your ability to talk shit. Small problem, most of the American woman can't speak English properly. I wonder how many languages you are fluent in Realamericanwoman? Hell I doubt if you're even that fluent in English.
Talk about a waste of money and willing to marry anything. Just take a look around at the typical female, in the US. They will prostitute themselves as bad as any woman in the world will so don't even start with that story.
So the issue isn't desperation realamericanbimbo. It's called finding class and dignity and a moral strength which has left the American culture and moved towards the feminazi reign in America. Hell it's easy to find a woman in the states, it's difficult to find a real woman, that holds certain values close to them.
PS. Mail order bride? Lets see, Eharmony, Match.com, Yahoo personals, Aol personals, the list goes on. So explain to me realamericanbimbo, what is the difference? I think you must be intimidated by the quality of women coming from the FSU. How they can adapt and speak a second language, their intellectual capacity and their cultured lifestyle. I have to laugh from time to time, when my wife and I go shopping she always expresses what a shame it is that American women just don't have much self respect for themselves.
This is far from desperate for a guy who is looking for the real deal. Just look at the profiles on those sights listed above. It's truly embarrasing what the "real american woman" is looking for. I used to get irritated with my wife saying women here had no culture, then I learned what she meant, and I can't get irritated, she's spot on.
Your demeaning words, Mail Order Bride, truly shows what kind of person you are. If you were so happy in your life, why would you even write something derogatory in a forum like this unless you are jealous or intimidated by these women. So which is it?
So at what distance does a female become a 'Mail Order Bride'?
So if, online, a 'real American' lady from LAX meets a guy, subsequently marries, and relocates to SFO then one must presume, by the voiced American female prospective, that the lady is a 'mail order bride'.
How about if a lady in LAX meets a guy from San Diego, is she a 'mail order bride'?
How about if a lady in LAX meets a guy online who lives half a dozen blocks from her, is she a mail order bride?
nope. i'm from the UK. just been burnt a few times, about to get divorced... my best friend married a russian girl and i see how happy they are. didn't mean to but started contacting a girl online, who just *happens* to come from the ukraine. her english is almost perfect and we speak on the phone all the time. mind you... she still can't remember english numbers! lol