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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Ukraine Wife Now Author Post anothermug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2007 4:13:09 AM   Ukraine Wife Now is a dishonest agency. I was conned by the American owner who is a very smooth liar. Check his website. Any experienced old hand will recognize the usual propaganda and also many obvious lies. http://ukrainewifenow.com/dating-agency/ Not obvious are some basic lies. “Ukraine dating Agency owned by American” at the top of every page. This is true. Next line says “I found my wife here”. That is a big lie, this David gaynor is not married. Also, he broke up with his young girlfriend in the middle of 2007 - she dumped him. His website says “It took me about 9 months to find the right girl, but she is the right girl. We've been together now for almost a year and I still haven't found anything wrong with her. She's sweet, considerate, warm and affectionate. Age was never an issue for her. She's loving and tender, and she appreciates me because I treat her well”. No David, she does not think so, you never married her, and she dumped you. This guy is a slick con artist preying on trusting, gullible, older Western men. My biggest mistake was to trust him first and foremost because he is an American. Bad mistake. Second mistake, a friend introduced me to him. I learned later our mutual friend (a Western guy) may have earned a commission from my money. David Gaynor’s modus operandi is to get you to pay for multiple services in advance. Afterwards, you will be lucky to get 10% of what you have paid for. He is liar, a fraud and only the lonely will be taken in by him. Do not be another victim. This guy makes Kiev Connections look very good. Do not use Ukraine Wife Now. I used both companies. Brett is a decent and fairly honest guy. David Gaynor is a lying thief. His database is mostly from Anastasias Models, or filched from Elena’s models (he is a former Platinum Member of Elena’s Models), and also from modeling agency websites. Many or most women on the Ukraine Wife Now database do not know they are on his site, and those I met always had to meet me away from the office. Most had never been there. I paid for twenty meetings at a “discount“ - and got three - after a lot of pressure from me. So each meeting was about $100 each, and two of them were highly doubtful. One lost interest after 1 minute because of my age - he never told her. Another one said she had had never heard of his site and was a professional model, had a boyfriend and was not looking for a husband. The third was a pro dater and conned me for a taxi fare home, after a lunch. Of course I did not see her get into the taxi. I phoned her later, she was busy. Afterwards she never answered. Lucky I did not get all 20 meetings using his flawed database - it would have been a bigger waste of time and money. He also offers high priced service, expensive matchmaking etc. Forget it, it is a complete con and scam. He never has any proper, experienced staff - they have conned and robbed him then disappeared, he claims. (I hope they did). For example this nonsense on his website “Our 100% Client Satisfaction Guarantee! We guarantee our service with the best no-nonsense guarantee in the business. Try our service for full-year and if you are not dating, engaged or married by the end of the year with one of beautiful Ukrainian ladies, we will continue to provide service at no charge until you find a match! Try our proven system for a full year with no risk. No other agency can come close to our guarantee - a full year of service with a lifetime service guarantee if you do not become engaged of married in the first year! Once you enroll we will never stop working for you until you find your wife.” Guys if you give this guy any money at all for any service in advance, he forgets you the moment you walk out the door. I am not joking. You may as well give your money to a gypsy in the street. Or this one “10% of income from your payment goes to CHILDREN'S CHARITIES.”. Any money you give David Gaynor will go straight to the Kiev women he is personally chasing as a desperate and quite unattractive man of 69 years of age, posing as a 63 year old. I wonder if this charity donation lie could be a criminal fraud in Ukraine, making this kind of false promise on his website? Probably there is no declared taxable income, so no donation! I expressed my dissatisfaction with the very slow progress arranging meetings to this American. I had provided over 100 alternative ladies ID’s to meet and got only one meeting after a week. Immediately he started yelling at me, threatening me, swearing and personal abuse. This was the same man who flattered me and made many phony promises before getting my money. BTJames Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2007 11:31:05 AM   anothermug. I too have had dealings with Mr Gaynor earlier this year. He told me he was a retired american policman. I also told him 3 of the ladies profiles were established scammers listed on 2 reputable anti scam sites-he still has not removed them from his site claiming that he a technophobe and too busy. I believe i remember there is more information on ukraine wife now from an earlier post here on this forum if "ukraine wife now" is typed into search bar at top of this page. scambuster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2008 6:23:22 PM   To everybody who would like to give Mr David Gainer, Gaynor, Garnier, Gable (or even, now, Joe Salomone)something to think about, please visit this site which exposes him for the liar, cheat and theif that he is: http://www.ukraine-wife-now.com I was scammed by him too, when I worked to repair his website. The original designer of the site refused to help, because HE'D been scammed out of money too. I want to take him down. Visit the site, leave a comment, and put links to the site if you can. Help people who search Google or Yahoo find this site first. He is a pervert. He offers free Viagra to new clients, which must make the ladies reel that he is a trustworthy and dependable. The girls who work for him are underpaid, paid late (if at all) and then sacked without pay for some invented excuse. In fact, everybody who works for him, either as an employee, contractor, or service provider, has the same problem. Much of his database is purchased from one Jamie Schumann, a member of the Angelica Network. He sells Gainer old databases. These are the girls who can't be contacted, or are already married. dcv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2008 7:33:02 PM   I am surprised Ukraine Wife Now is still operating, i had some dealings with the corrupt cop that owns the Ukraine Wife Now site last year. I could tell by the brief details of the ladies profiles it was a scam site.I got out early before I sent any money though.I am sad to see that he is still getting money out of other lessinformed people still . apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2008 7:39:38 PM   He sounds like he became Ukrainian. ;) Seriously though, good thing to post about guys like that. I ran into a small time operator that had a reputation for setting men up with prostitutes that wanted to meet and marry an American. ;p If that Gaymore guy had a brain he'd start that business up so he can go legit somehow. Hands up to show how many guys that meet a disappointing girl wouldn't mind seeing some website like that one when your feeling down and out in Ukraine. ;0 I'm sure you'd be feeling up and in real quick. lol! Ok Ok - my bad. But it's just too negative of a topic ;p scambuster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2008 5:48:49 AM   Hey guys, a few victims of Gainer have gotten together and put up a website specifically informing people about Ukraine Wife Now. The domain name is the same as the original, but with hyphens between, i.e. not ukrainewifenow.com, but ukraine-wife-now.com. Please feel free to visit, view his passport details, and read posts by various people. Add your comments/experiences. The site again: http://www.ukraine-wife-now.com. That is NOT his site, but one warning about the conman running a scam agency. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2008 12:35:13 PM   Nice plug. scambuster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 3:21:46 PM   David Vincent Gainer (the convicted rapist who runs Ukraine Wife Now) is now advertising in Kyiv Post for 'City of Brides'. Does anybody know anything about them? Are they a reputable agency being scammed by Gainer, or are they a scam agency too? I sent them details of Gainer's criminal past and shady present, but they haven't answered. They continued to advertise last week. Gainer has used the same phone number as his most recent Ukraine Wife Now ads, and his new alias Alyona. When you phone 'Alyona', surprise, surprise! Gainer answers the phone. So, if anybody has any information about City of Brides, please let us all know. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 7:02:21 PM   Who precisely is 'us'? scambuster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 4:59:19 AM   Everybody who is reading this page. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 11:45:22 AM   Well I have no wish to know of any information about City of Brides so, please, do not speak upon my behalf. maccamlc Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2008 12:24:39 AM   I was handed one of these Ukraine Wife Now cards while walking down Kreschiatik in June. Was quite funny, but didn't think anyone would actually believe the crap on the card! handy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2009 3:56:37 PM   Check these links. Links will comment all the comments itself. http://www.ukraine-wife-now.com/gainer_passport.htm http://www.u kraine-wife-now.com/sex-offender-report.htm Type David Gainer into http://criminalsearches.com/ I believe he can't get new passport after this one expired. Why? No wonder... SEXYBOY Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2009 10:04:32 AM   I JUST READ ANOTHRMUG MESSAGE AND THERE ARE SO MANY SCAMMERS OUT THERE JUST TO TAKE ONES MONEY A THING I REALLY REALLY HATE DOING IS GIVING MONEY IN ADVANCE BY THE WAY DID ANYONE EVER ON HERE USE TO KNOW A GIRL BY THE NAME OF OKSANA AND HER NICKNAME WAS KSUSHA_KITTY AS I GOT TO KNOW HER ON NATASHACLUB.COM I WAS WRITING TO HER FOR A WHILE AND THEN FROM AN INSTANCE SHE SAID SHE HAD TO DELETE HER FILE AND SHE WAS GONE Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 4:59:32 PM   it kills me to do this --- really! anyone who has the word KITTY in her name should be suspect, it would be the same as anyone having the name sexygirl for instance... ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2009 8:48:02 PM   Anyone who has the name Julian should be suspect. The name is Roman in origing as in Julius Caesar. In this forum, he thinks he's in charge. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2009 9:03:50 AM   ET TU BULLE'? Sorry I said I was finished with the Julian vs ragingbull saga. But this could not be left unsaid. :) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2009 9:50:17 AM   " Anyone who has the name Julian should be suspect. The name is Roman in origing as in Julius Caesar. In this forum, he thinks he's in charge." Such wisdom RB, the name is roman???? Any other roman names can you think of? If you want to get it right it is a latin name correctly from julius!!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2009 5:13:08 PM   Look at it closely, Beemer. Did I say it was Roman? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2009 5:40:03 PM   Good one, Julian. Here is some historical trivia. Marcus Junius Brutus Caepio, or Brutus's father was the founder of the Roman Republic that Julius Caesar overthrew. Although credited with his death, the knife of Brutus was one of many because he was the leader. 60 senators were involved in the plotting of his death. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Ukraine Wife Now
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