I've had several reactions of women who, by the looks of it, do not speak English or other languages I use. They use machines for translations which seems sumbersome, and the result cannot be called rewarding. For obvious reasons this is a bi-directional thing.
I'd like to hear some opinions on this: Do you think it worthwhile to start corresponding with women who do not speak English but Russian only?
Point is, when a meeting takes place I fear getting a proper feeling for each other is at least difficult.
Anyone invited, but especially those who've done this already.
Hi
Well I've sort of got a little experience here.
I'm currently in pursuit of a woman who speaks Russian, Romainian and "Italiano" (as she calls it) but no english. She attempted to learn a bit so she could call me once but forgot that she also needed to understand what was being said to her and seemed to think when she was learning that all she needed was to be able to say things to me and not vice-versa LOL.
Well I had to put a call out amongst friends for an Russian interpreter. I got one and it worked a treat. She was very pleased that I had found an interpreter and called her back again but she wasn't quite as happy about the age gap :(
My point being, language barriers can be overcome with time. In the meantime you can find a Interpreter. The best places to try are your friends. You might think to yourself "They won't know anyone" but you'd be suprised. Over here I did a bit of research and found several places where Russian people hang out. I was also very suprised at the friend that found me my interpreter as he seemed like quite an unlikely person to know a Russian speaking person.
Well my interpreter is quite cheap. She basically works for nothing and everytime I have to argue with her to make her accept some sort of payment. She has become good friends with my foreign lady friend and she has said that when we meet she will come along aswell so that they can both meet and also translate for us.
Meeting should not be difficult if you have someone with you that can interpret. There should be no need for problems. As for the rest, well the body language is the same, the eye contact is the same etc. If the interpreter is in the way when you want to kiss the woman, just ask them to leave for a few minutes.
I never paid any attention to the level of English of the girl. It coincidentally happens that I am getting married to a girl who speaks English well. If I did again with all I know, I would look for a girl who speaks English at least at conversational level.
I met 3 girls in total. 2 in person, phone calls and correspondence and 1 only through phone calls and correspondence. 1 girl speaks English well, 1 girl speaks English poorly, 1 girl speaks no English (or at least nothing was getting through). In my opinion, it is almost impossible to get a relationship off the ground if the girl doesn't speak English unless you're determined to learn Russian. I found that it's very difficult for a Russian working woman to learn English (lack of time, too dificult). It will be very difficult for her when she comes here if she doesn't speak English. She will totally depend on you for every little detail. Save yourself from disappointment and make sure the girl at least speaks English at least conversational level. When you run your search, make sure you check the box under "speak English". I had the wife of a friend (I wouldn't call friend rather an acquaintance) to do some translations over the phone with the girl who doesn't speak English. This was only temporary solution and then when I started calling her without the interpreter, we couldn't exchange a word (very lame situation). Interest on my side quickly went away. I decided not to visit her at the last moment although I had visa and arrangements made. I did not want to give chance to something that would not have a chance.
I'm of the totally opposite opinion. If she can't speak english then there's more of a challenge and it's more fun. Also, how can you ever get into an arguement and break up if you don't understand eachother? - An arguement can't happen.
Also if you woman can't speak english then what else is there to do? - Tongues!?
My personal opinion is that it's just as interesting if she doesn't speak english because not only do you both have eachother to learn about, but also eachother's languages. I'm still chasing that Moldovan (who doesn't speak a word of english - Though she has said she does want to learn to speak it).
One other way to look at it:
If you can't talk then your true "Animal instincts" will take over and you will feel true feelings for eachother without mankind's "artificial" language getting in the way.
Wtrav, you call it 'coincidentally' that you're with your current girl who ‘happens’ to speak English well. I’m sure you also realize that this fact alone is a large contributor if not a time-saver with respect to progress made between yourselves, and it just might be, or even has been, the case that the scale just tipped in her favour because of this simple sole fact.
You seem to be a bit younger than me Mr T, supercharged still and hormones oozing out of yer ears, and your optimism suits this picture. A translator is fine whenever comm’s are concerned, being in any form including live. However, for me that stops at socials during a course selection process, with more in the queue and the clock ticking.
After this selection the finer comb comes out, and I want, no, need, to start reading between the lines, and limitations placed on comm’s bother me immensely. This is where the info is, there’s no time to ‘experience’ it all, and in this regards sex also can be a great teacher.
You’re most welcome to try your ways, but in my experience the way to a woman’s heart is communication rather than physical joy, although for the latter even the best translator will come short.
Yeah, same sentiments here Wtrav, and common sense prevails. You only should see that one … ;-)
Thunderdome, I agree with all your assessments. I would only add some insight to the practical side of things after she gets her visa and she comes here. Even if language barrier does not prove a problem prior to her coming here (which I find hard to believe), trust me it will be insurmountable problem for both you and her if she comes here and she cannot handle at least a simple conversation in plain English. My girl speaks English very well. However, as you know, people in America speak fast and don't make the effort to understand someone who has an accent or may lack confidence to speak English. I am talking about occasions when she is at the shopping mall or she needs to ask for information, etc. I can tell you, I am completely running out of time constantly because I have to be her transport for everything (since she doesn't drive) and explain everything, etc. I am doing this with all my heart and she is doing her part 100% with housekeeping, cooking and she follows and learns quickly everything I tell her. But, imagine if she didn't speak English. What would she do when I am at work? She would be staying home unable to understand anything and totally depending on me. She would end up unhappy and depressed and believe me for a Russian girl learning English is not an overnight project. Look at this also from a practical point of view, i.e. what will happen when she comes here. Speaking the language when migrating to a foreign country can make a world of difference.
Wtrav, see your points, and practise will make her perfect. But such requires an entry-level command of the language otherwise one is lost, as it is especially the beginning which is difficult to learn. Get that right and just add to your vocabulary per day, and here I'm talking from experience.
I've no idea about the cost involved (I'm not American or even english-default) but my idea is to hire a driving-school for days on end. Long sessions in both morning and afternoon, and instruct the instructors (bugger them, you're paying) to not only teach her to drive but also to show her 'where she lives'. On top of such she'd pick up more of the language no doubt.
But as said, no idea.
I can teach any woman about English Basis Level for 20 lessons. It will cost her about $7 per lesson. I am sure that your girls can easily find a lot of English tutor in their towns. You can start communicate and then just pay for lessons.
Hello all,
New to this site,but this is an intresting subject,as I see it.As for myself,I will be learning the Russian language for my future wife.I am very willing to do this for her,as a show of support and devotion towards her.I feel that doing so would be a great learning experience for me,and I hope that doing so will show her respect,for her,and her culture.I may be wrong,but being able to communicate with her with out an interperter,would be much more productive in finding out about each other.I plan to start today,and take as much time as needed to become proficient.As there are many very good computer programs for this type of learning.Even as time progresses I will continue to learn her language better,as she will undoughtedly learn mine with my help,and training.
Thaks
P.S. any comments are welcome
You sound you are just now getting into it, make sure you understand how difficult Russian language is for people without slavic background. If you manage to speak Russian to her, it will show respect and it will facilitate getting to know each other. It will also give her a reason not to learn English. The latter will be insurmountable problem when she comes here. Are you going to be with her at all times to translate? How alienated is she going to feel in a foreign place when she can't even understand the language? If I were you, I would invest in her learning English while she's waiting for her visa. This is more practical than you learning Russian and it would be tremendous help for her when she comes here. Many people don't realize how much work needs to be done prior to her coming here. Many women come here and end up depressed and unhappy. How much work she does (with you assistance) prior to her leaving her country will heavily impact her life when she is here.
Have you ever been to Russian Ladyland?
The magic carpet waits for you so don't you be late
I wanna show you the different emotions
I wanna run to the sounds and motions
Russian woman waits for you and me
So it's time we take a ride, we can cast all of your hang-ups over
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