i have been writing a girl since may and we speak on the phone alot...because of my work schedule and her school- she is 22- its hard to find a good time we could meet...she did close her account once but now she put it back on anastasiaweb... she says she wanted to be in a contest and that she is just still talking to me..maybe she is a liar but i try to believe in her.. i will spend 1 month in ukraine in the spring..so i need advice on should i write new girls or put more trust in her
I think with you staying in Ukraine for 1 month is good, is gives you a longer time to get to know the girls,during my visits to Ukraine I wish I could of stayed 1 month or more.It is always good advice to try to write more then 1 girl
Klink....definately write to other girls. I would worry not worry about girl being back on anastasia, nothing wrong with testing the waters considering you have not met yet, also gives YOU the chance to talk to other girls and set up possible meetings if girl does not work out for you. A month is a very long time. Is she not going to school for a month???? You definately need something else to occupy yourself. I will be there in mid April and I am very familiar with odessa. Nice walking town!! Good Luck!!
I advocate meeting only one lady until something doesn't work before moving on but in this case I believe I would look for a second one. You know how your communication is going and can get a feel for her attitude through correspondence. If she took her profile down for you and then put one back up it would indicate she has cooled down or given up on you.
she says she hasnt cooled down on me..she says they had a contest in anastasia and she wanted to win some money...but who knows..... also beemer i know you think people should have a plan and while i want to find a nice girl i will also enjoy myself in odessa..as you said i think its a nice walking town..but also at the same time i agreed with her that i wont write other women and i dont want to be a liar to her...a tough call i think
Nasfan...how much time did you spend in Odessa? Do you feel that way from stories?? Just wondering...
I have been there several times in past year and have not had that same feeling. I do know that the bigger the city, the more corrupt it can be.
Klink...if you believe your girls story about contest you are gullable!!!! She is probably back on at urging of her agency to make some money with letters!!! If there is a contest...it is probably within agency to see which girl can make most money from letter writing!!! I do have an important question for you...did your girl tell you she was going back on anastasia or did you find out and ask her???? Why don't you tell her you will put your profile back as long as she has hers on.....isn't that fair????
Been there twice beemer, Once my driver was beaten and mugged, two from the horses mouth, which is my wife who has more experience than both of us, Odessa is the most criminal city in Ukraine. I'll take Yalta, Sevastopol,Mariupol and Kiev over Odessa anyday.
If you look lately, the most corrupt of the agencies and girls are coming from Odessa. Also the shipping point of a foreign prostitution ring. Odessa will pass lugansk as the new corrupt town.
You make a point to say you were there several times last year? I mean if you are on a dating and sightseeing tour fine, but if you're trying to find a real woman, and I mean a real honest to goodness woman you need to walk off the beaten path.
I had quite an enjoyable time for the few days that I spent in Odessa once upon a time, it had a nice 'seaside' atmosphere about the place.
Mind you the airport, that's another thing, the runway is the worst that I have ever experienced (if you're looking out of the window as you land you can see the potholes in it), it's even bumpier that Zakinthos airport and that's saying something, at least I didn't spill my G&T during landing at Zakinthos :)
And as for the ODS airport buses, one of them must be firing on all of 2 cylinders whilst leaking fuel everywhere and shall we mention the airport taxi drivers?
Well I have a 4 hours layover in ODS airport one day but had to keep walking out of the terminal for a cigarette, every time I went outside it was 'taxi, taxi, taxi', these guys are worse than those at Borispol, they were following me across the car park and everywhere. At one point I was on the mobile to the wife, who was in hospital at the time, joking with her about these characters and she asked me how I was dealing with it, I told her that I was telling them to 'fock off' of course and whilst she may not approve of me swearing she just burst out laughing :)
Nasfan...I have met 3 women in Odessa and spent time with them....we were not 'dating', unfortunately things didn't work out but they never gave me idea I was being 'used' for their pleasures. After a couple days, mainly walking around or spending time at marina and some dinners( one came to my apt to cook dinner), we decided it wasn't going to work out, which was fine, that is the reason for meeting..... to know for sure.
Yes, Yalta is very nice along with Alushta but Sevastapol(dump), Kiev(experienced and saw crime).I would rather not say anything about Mariupol, since that is your wifes hometown.....I have a big mouth but I'm not dumb!!! :)))
Wonderful, I've actually targeted 2 women and started conversations from Ukraine, One from Lugansk and the other from Mariupol, I haven't gotten responses yet as this was just yesterday but I'm guessing I should move forward with extreme caution on these two birds,
I'm really just started in this venture and I'm already depressed. Perhaps I've gone into this with unreal expectations. I guess it's just going to take time, Of course, couldn't be any worse than the 1/2 of a life I spent on American Women.
I really need read this board some more before I make another move.
Scotty, its not as difficult as you think if you go in with your eyes open. Just watch out for the red flags along the way.
The first thing to do is as Martin says above.
If she comes up as a scammer 99% of the time she will be.
If not, take the next step...get her email address and run an IP checker. This will 90% of the time tell you where the emails are coming from....usually down to the town where the computer is.
If all is cool then continue with correspondance until you're ready to take the plunge and get on the boat.
If she is genuine she won't want to hang around in endless emailing, so plan you trip, and if she is genuine she will help you...but always communicate. She should have her own phone too...don't let her tell you that she hasn't...that's a red flag.
Unfortunately from my pov the way things are I'm always on the look-out for the red flags Even a small thing that doesn't makes sense and I walk away.
There are a lot of players in this game, some want money right away and these are easy to spot. Some just want a holiday fling and a foreign boyfriend....these are the real players.
Kirk...I think Scotty's girls are on anastasia..so you can only get postal addresses. I'm sure if you ant up $40 for each girl he can maybe get an e-mail address, maybe even a phone number..........now what happens if girl has no e-mail address, doesn't speak english and only get letters in an agency, which probably represents 80% of girls!!!
Now what????? Just giving some thoughts on how I have seen things!!!
I don't worry about the scammer girl, just because she shows up on a scammer site isn't 100% bad, I usually get a feel about girl through letters but if you are on a pay per letter, good chance of spending lots of cash to find out about girl. I probably over 2 years time checked out only a few girls. To each his own!! I have never met a scammer...only the gold digger...there is a difference.
Scotti you will just have to go fourth and learn most of this yourself,,you will get a feeling whats wasting your time to something good,, most are time wasters.
its a time thing I'm afraid, but if ya got a couple of dollars do a organised trip to Ukraine, tour the city's with booked hotels and prepaid tickets for trains or what ever . have a lady in each city to meet, possibly you will not meet,, time wasters:)
but all this gives you a learning curve to this slavic land and its women.
you will make mistakes,, take a trip and get them out of the way, do Ukraine first its cheaper and a lot more english spoken i would think.
use Anastasia just to get the girls in each city and go, they are expensive so don't use them for to long.
when i did this i lined up 6 girls on Anastasia, i found lugansk girls i chose one was good one bad, Mariupol one good one time waster, Crimea time wasters, Kiev ok.
this trip i learnt a lot and was needed, and enjoyed all the girls,, except the no shows.
hell i didn't even know of this forum back then, so you will pick up some things on here,, whats good if unsure of anything just ask on here.
the other thing i forgot to say scotti was pay per letter sites and especially Anastasia's you are dealing with interpreters, these interpreters are given there own Lady's to interpret for.
if you piss them off like hint to lady the site is shit its a big possibility your girl will not receive your letter how you wrote,, this is there way to make you ask again,, or explain yourself again,,, basically its there way to get another 5 6 7 dollars out of you...
some are just useless interpreters.
they just cannot be trusted.
you see its not always the girl at the end of letter but sometimes these useless employee's in the middle.
also never use there flower photo services,, they cannot be trusted,, use independent, this gets your email and phone number to her and you will now it will not be the same photo they have given to 20 guys.
this way you will now if its a real address, not made up by agency or interpreter.
also check out other agencies for same girl, might have better rates.
personally i dont use them if i can help it.
I have decided to stay in the Ukraine and live in Nikolaev for another three months. If you have any questions about Odessa or Nikolaev, don't be afraid to contact me here.
Well if Scottys girls are on Anastasia he's in for a ride and I don't mean the nice kind.
I did the agency deal before and got a player.
Why would anyone want to pay to send a letter to a translator?
There are hundreds of thousands of girls on dating sites who can communicate without the use of a third party.
Thank you all for advice,
It's basically gonna cost some cash, I see that now, and your going to get burned here and there, being a newbie I guess I'll take my lumps with a grain of salt and learn from them. Wouldn't it be nice if someday technology takes us to a point where you can search through adds, and say,
var = Pic //awsome looking , personality // great personality , values // good wife, likes me // obsessed with me, woman // final product: Integer
begin
Pic := Pic1 ( of awesome chick);
Personality := Personality1 ( of your choosing );
values := values1 ( whatever you want her to value );
likesme := likesme1 ( avoid having supermodel run off with cash cause she actually likes you.
// here she comes are you ready
woman := Pic1+Personality1+values1+Likesme1;
end;
end.