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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Manager The thread disappeared Author Post Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2008 10:24:59 PM   I wrote this response to a thread (that disappeared)started by a member called manager who was disappointed because the man she was writing to wanted to send a car for her and meet in Kiev. She felt vulnerable in that situation and told him she would only meet if he went through her agency. The agency ask 100 dollars to execute the International Marriage broker agreement paper, 600 dollars for the car to Kiev, and 50 dollars an hour for the Interpreter. The man declined Manager: I do not know how far you live from kiev or what Michael was prepared to pay for a car to bring you to Kiev. And perhaps Michael was hasty in planning a trip. It sounds like you would be vulnerable if he turned out to be less than a gentleman. But if I was in Michael's shoes I would also be scared when all I have heard is that wages average 80 to 120 US dollars a month and the fee for showing the international marriage broker paper to you and getting your signature is 100 dollars, the car is 600 dollars, and the interpreter is 50 dollars for every hour. There is no way that I could think other than somebody is a gold digger. Even if you are totally honest you are issuing and ultimatum that he accept terms from an extremely overpriced agency or forget it. Add this to the long distant communication, knowing nothing about you from the beginning so you cannot help but have a little bit of doubt the same as you yourself do about him and I would not walk away from this, I would run and never look back. Put yourself in his shoes. Would you spend 700 dollars just to see his eyes and 50 dollars an hour to talk to him. Now remember people of your country set these prices so people of your economy should be able to pay them. Now I will guarantee you that what he is seeing is a scam and that is what I would think too. So if you are an honest lady and you are really interested in Michael you need to care for him like you would a dear friend and pretend that it is your money being spent. You are right in wanting protection and security in the meeting but another approach to this might be to let his car bring him to your city to a public place you can meet with an interpreter of his choice and a friend scheduled to call you 15 minutes after the meeting starts to stage an emergency to get you out of there if it looks like danger. Now I realize finances are not a good subject to talk about but many of the men coming over have just been divorced. In the United States this means that if they have property they have just had to borrow enough money to pay their x-wife for half of this in the divorce. To give you an arbitrary example if a man has 400,000 dollars worth of property he will likely pay his wife 200,000 dollars plus monthly support. So now he has to make 20,000 dollars just to make payments to buy his property back plus his monthly payments to her. And I say this only to demonstrate that many of the men coming to the FSU are in a recovery period in their lives and their budget is tight so unexpected expenses such as 50 dollars an hour for 2 days could be devastating and add that to the other additional 700 dollars might make the difference of whether he can come or not. But my real issue would be why is this lady who says she likes me forcing me to use a service that costs many times what it is worth. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2008 10:41:18 PM   Oz, 'MANAGER' was an obvious agency manager who I reported to the moderators because he/she was naming & shaming guys for declining to pay $600 for a taxi and $50 an hour for an interpreter. Fock me, you can probably buy a car for $600 and the going rate for an interpreter is $10-15 per hour! There ain't no taxi in UKraine that costs $600, the country isn't big enough! Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2008 11:07:32 PM   I was also replying to Managers post, when it "disappeared". Manager is a classic example of a woman that has been infected by the agency. It is a good thing to hear that Michael was not taken in by this and offered a polite refusal. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2008 11:26:33 PM   This is not fair, I was in middle of reading thread and it disappeared, like watching a movie and being able to see ending so I didn't get all details. It is interesting how capitalistic some people in ukraine can be, you know, charge what you can get or what the market would bear. I have yet to meet a girl I would pay those type of costs but if she can put a smile on my face while I am sleeping, I can be tempted. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/9/2008 7:21:16 AM   MANAGER started a second thread very soon after the first thread, continued SHOUTING, and was basically spamming the forum, there was sure to follow third and fourth threads etc. but it had already become riciculous by the time of the second thread. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2008 6:45:18 PM   CHILLYWILLY, You obviously have no respect for your wife publicly portraying her as a 'sexy baby'. I have travelled across country in Ukraine on 3 occasions, in 2004 Odessa to Zaporozhye (in a limo) was $150, OK allowing for a rise in fuel prices etc. that might now be $200 and that was for a 6 hours drive. Now please kindly explain where one can drive for 18 hours in Ukraine (18 hours = 3 x 6 hours @ $200 = the $600 agency is charging) and without passing a regional airport to travel by air, not bus, for a fare of circa $100. Perhaps this is 'rocket science' CHILLYWILLY, it's obviously too much for you to absorb! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2008 9:19:50 PM   Where's 'CHILLYWILLY's post gone to? It was so enjoyable as well :) Something like 'I love you sexybaby' :) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/16/2008 9:06:33 AM   I missed the whole MANAGER post altogether. I'm disappointed. But at least I can pick up the gist of it from toehr people's posts. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/16/2008 9:49:07 PM   jetmba, Well basically it was an agency manager, probably drunk at the time, complaining that guys, whilst naming, shaming them and posting here their personal letters, had politely declined his/her offer, indeed persuasive insistence, that they fork out some $1,000 to be met at Borispol by their lady with agency interpreter in tow ..... $600 for a taxi & $50 per hour for the interpreter. Like those guys, I think I'd rather have stayed at home :) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Manager The thread disappeared
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