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crash

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	Send: 10/10/2003 10:04:37 AM

Men, After reading your remarks re: Olga Amaranova? and the various other possible ruses being pulled I thought I would share the following with you. I have only communicated with a few girls and have entered into communication with one only at this time. I have phoned and spoken with her and I like here very much. I think the feeling is mutual. Recently she gave me an email address, I think administered via Fiance.com on which I should contact her. So instead of paying $8.00 or the equivalant in English money I communicated for free (I think?) More recently Oksana has asked if I can communicate via an agency in Penza which is easier for her to visit. I have to join that agency, called dating lab? or something like this (don't have details at hand cos I am a work.)So, I wondered if this is normal practice? Oksana has said she would like to meet me and so too would I like to meet her. I cannot go to Russia until Easter next year because I am a single parent, I have two young sons and I have already booked a holiday with them at Christmas and have no other holidays from work until Easter as I said. Oksana has said she will come to England to visit. Of course I will pay all her expenses and look after her. She says that it will be easier for her to get a visa if she books a tour to England (as she puts it) I assume she means a package? I would like to know if this whole arrangement is feasible? Can she get a visa this way? Please tell me what you think. Unlike some people using these sites I am not wealthy and I have two children so don't get out much!!! Thats why I have used the site! I have been surprised at the response I have had considering that I have children which is not necessarily a selling point! Another event entirely is a letter I got from another girl after sending her a complimentary letter. I enclose the text she sent to me below. This sounds a little like the circumstances described by other people on the site?? Any comments? Thanks a lot for your letter. I liked it very much. I agreed with the Agency that we would be given another way of keeping correspondence. It will be the most convenient method of the correspondence for me, because I will have my own separate e-mail box and the direct connection with you. But the main thing is that I will certainly know that you are really my man… I like honesty and order in life. I will tell you more about myself when I will write you my letter directly to your e-mail address from our personal e-mail address. …O.K.?1 I know that you like photos. I would like to send you some my intimate photos, but this way of connection doesn’t let me do that. I was promised that the letter with the proposal from the Agency would be sent to your consideration either today or tomorrow. I ask you to send me letters to our own e-mail address. I am interested in corresponding with you and the meeting with you in the future, of course if you want to have serious relationships with me. After reading what you all say I am feeling a little paranoid and feel like enclosing the names of every girl I ever spoke to here for you all to check!!!! This is my work email so anyone who wants to get in touch directly should mail crashtheatre1000@yahoo.co.uk. Thanks for taking the time to read all of this!!!

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	Send: 10/12/2003 1:14:52 PM

Crash, The above letter uses quite good English, and I understand it is her first letter to you? And "Intimate photo's" offered almost up front? By all means get them in, but this sounds very dodgy indeed. Her 3rd or 4th letter is going to ask you for money I think, but by all means find out for yourself. Nothing wrong with to do exactly that, it'll teach you what to look for I guess. Regarding your other posting I believe (not sure though) that Turkey and Egypt require no Visa's for her, but obviously she needs a passport - and that takes time. But wait for Olga to respond, she'll know. Regarding you carrying all costs for Oksana maybe you want to take some advice and refrain from sending any cash to her. Transfer all cost direct to the charging party's, buy the reverse-ticket yourself incl. a cancellation-insurance (I would), and in Blighty I suppose you book her into a hotel? Gents do this you see, especially those commenting on others....

crash

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	Send: 10/12/2003 1:37:32 PM

Thanks for responding Th, yes this was her first letter to me and like you, I smelt a fish. I have not heard from the agency regarding this proposed, other way to communicate yet. Frankly I am barely interested as I have other things happening as you know. I have two girls that I would like to meet and I like them both very much. he problem is that I cannot go to Russia until Easter '04 as I am a single dad. Christmas is already taken up with our own holiday and so ots a long wait. Oksana told me she would like to see me before that and so would come here. From what I have read it seems highly unlikely that she could get a tourist visa to the U.K so that's why I asked about other countries. It's all a bit confusing and I am kinda inclined to think , I will just see where the wind blows. It seems a lot of work when there are plenty of girls here (not always keen to become stepmothers). he reason I am even taking things this far is that as you know, these girls are remarkably beautiful and I enjoy talking with them? I guess I will make a decision when I have to!!!

crash

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	Send: 10/12/2003 1:45:42 PM

Ha Ha, just read your final comment Th! Of course I will book a hotel if that is what the girl wants to do or maybe give her my bed and take the sofa? You know I have no isue with mtrav02 having random (or any other kind of sex)with as many girls that consent to it and even taking pics, videos etc. My objection is the posting of her pics without her consent and his interfering in her life especially after the escapades he had with her! Shit, what a hypocrite!

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	Send: 10/12/2003 2:58:59 PM

Crash, where she ends up sleeping is her choice, but a hotelbooking is a must. Not your bed & sofa, it's too close for comfort. Also, bear in mind that it's not unlikely that you 2 might not really like each other, and then this situation quickly can become embarrassing. Ditto for your attitude regarding the work involved in a thing like this. It is going to cost plenty - effort and money both. Do not only yourself a favor and start surfing the Web and extract info you apparently need. Key in 'Elena Petrova' in any search-engine and read what comes up - and make up your mind then. It is your prerogative to think whatever you want regarding wtrav. Keep in mind however that he is not inexperienced in matters like this, he's been where you might be going, and also he can hardly be called a coward. As far as her consenting to the posting of these pictures - you know many decent girls who'll let take nude pictures during a holiday romance by a relative strange partner? There’s another thing though. Did you consider blaming the Moderators for allowing the placing of the links? If anything that was out of place in a forum like this.

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	Send: 10/12/2003 9:12:38 PM

That e-mail is very suspect. However, regarding the girl you are interested in, I am in the same situation, I cannot travel far from the USA, because of work. I can take day trips and such, but no week long ventures. An immigration Attorney (100% success rate for visas to the US) has offerd me advice to send her to Jamaica, or Bahamas, somplace close to Florida, and go there for the day. I have never met her in person, but I think she is the one for me, so being a visitors visa is out, and a fiance visa is pretty much out, we are going for a student visa so she can continue her education here. From what I hear, it is much quicker to get a student visa then any other, and while she is here going to school, she can apply for fiance visa, or if we get married here, she can apply for K-1, all while she is here in the states! If you want some more info on scammers, go to Stop-Scammers.

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	Send: 10/13/2003 5:38:09 AM

Just a few comments: -getting a visa to England is not easy at all, its the second country after USA that makes visitors visas for russian women almost impossible. -when she says "Book a tour" it means a complete package-airfare and hotel. Most travel agencies here will not bother to help you with tickets unless you are not booking a hotel with them. -I think she is very straighforward for her first message...I mean that asking for correspondence via her local agency is okey( its up to you to choose this agency or continie using www.fiance.com) but in any way, dont take any sound decisions. Also note that first you better meet her in her country, dont be in a hurry to invite her to visit you untill you will not be 100% sure that her intentions are honest and she is not just looking for a free ticket to see the world.

crash

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	Send: 10/13/2003 6:43:36 AM

I understand that Olga, frankly if someone is desperate to get out of Russia then it will not kill me if that happens! Are you saying though that this packege will guarantee a visa?

Loca

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	Send: 10/13/2003 10:34:30 AM

Crash, If you're talking about packege to UK- IT WILL NOT GUARANTEE UK VISA,even if you book the hotel.You might just loose your money,because I don't believe you can get refund in case she get rejected.

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	Send: 10/14/2003 1:36:46 AM

nope, Im not saying that this will guarantee a visa. no guarantees here.

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