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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > TRUTHFUL OR NOT? Author Post TheGoodone Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 9:31:36 AM   I am talking to a girl from Melitopol, Ukraine. She was telling me that she pays $150.00/Mo. for a regular apartment. Seems to me that that is very high base on the salaries of that regions. Am I wrong? I am just trying to find out is she is telling the truth or not. Any comments? Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 11:43:40 AM   More than most working Ukrainians earn in a month. Are you expecting her to ask you for support with her living expenses. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 2:17:42 PM   Goodone, believe it. It is quite normal to have a second job to fit all the bills, or share those apartments (which are tiny!) with someone else. However, let that be NO reason for you to send money. She's managed to survive until now hasn't she? If she asks she's a baddie, so take it from that point of view. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 4:57:34 PM   $150 a month sounds right,, based on salaries yes it is high for them, but even so $150 is reasonable to a lot of ukraines. TheGoodone Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 5:36:58 PM   She did not ask me directly for money, she was mentioning some financial difficulties. That is why I asked her about rent and bills. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2008 6:06:24 PM   Mentioning financial difficulties? Why? How did she get by before? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2008 8:19:30 AM   Goodone, A truly respectable lady would never mention finances to a guy that she has never met. I would guess that she is asking for money by 'stealth' otherwise why mention it. You best bet would have been to not answer to the mention of finances and waited to see what would happen next, what she would 'hint at' next. azure1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2008 11:33:23 AM   Im kinda suprised at the low figures being mentioned here for Ukranian wages. My GF lives in Sumy and she earns $360 per month, in addition she can earn credits for selling loans and inurance etc, often her take home pay is more than that. I dont think The Goodones lady is neccessarily asking for money just by mentioning her living expenses, I often compare prices for almost everything with my GF, its usually me pleading poverty! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2008 12:11:28 PM   azure, In Goodone's 2nd post he says that she mentioned 'financial difficulties' which is a whole different ballpark to merely mentioning her living expenses. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2008 4:30:43 PM   i ve never been to melitopol , but i heard its not quite a nice city, very small. and taking into consideration that Kharkov is much more expensive than Melitopol i would say 150 USD for an apartment is quite much for that city. and i dont think if a woman mentions her financial problems she is asking for money:) of course if a guy only thinks of lies, scamming, etc. he will definitaly think of a dirty trick:) just try to think positive guys and dont look for what there s no there. _Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2008 8:51:54 PM   The cost for rent is much higher then $150. Most probabli it is just cost for utility. For example I pay $100 for utility of onebedroom appartment in small town in Russia. Most family, even if two people work full time, are not able to rent the appartment and live with parents. _Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2008 9:05:35 PM   It is OK for Russian culture to complain a little bit. It does not mean she expect your immediate help. She just expect your understanding. Different attitude to finance is the most common reason for divorces in American/Russian families. She most probably do not expect your help now but if you marry her she defiantly will attitude to your money as "our family money" and to your house as to "our house" May be you'd betted look for American girl? Nika Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/19/2008 3:32:42 PM   It's quite possible to pay the above mentioned sum for the apartment. In Nikolaev one may rent one-room apartment for this money. It can be also monthly price for heating and electricity if she owns a three-room apartment. The average salary in Nikolaev is $300. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/19/2008 9:42:10 PM   An apartment in Zaporozhye, well I know of two prices, one for $80 and the other for $350 per month so anywhere inbetwwen might be reasonable in a Ukrainian regional city. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2008 5:52:02 AM   Bagira and Nobody knows pretty much summed it all up. If you look for a scammer on every corner that's what you will find. If you have a negative attitude towards these ladies you will probably chase some good ones off. You can only be scammed for money if you send it. Complaining about finances doesn't mean that they are looking for your help. It's mostly a complaint about economic opportunity. It's still a male dominated society with pay scales structured towards the male. Some will complain but will not accept your help until your are comitted or married. At least the honest and real ones won't. On the flip side of this, if they need to learn to drive and become more proficient in your language this is something you need to consider and ante up for. Though this is a little down the road in your relationship. Also Bagira, it's always been our money and "Her House" LOL if you are not willing to share these things you don't need to look for a lady period. Home ownership is something many of these ladies cannot fathom due to the circumstances in Ukraine etc. I can attest to this with the remodeling and additions added to our house in the last two years. I live in a small town which is pretty country by US standard and we have together built a very contemporary country home. My friends can't believe what we have accomplished together. My decorating taste was pretty much "early Neanderthal" by her descriptions. It's been one huge pain for me work wise but worth every bit of it to see the smile on her face and the pride she takes in keeping up our home. She works just as hard as I do in the updating of our home and property. This to her is a great joy she would have never had the opportunity to have in Mariupol. I've come home at night after work and she's covered in sweat from working in our garden and flower beds. I don't see where that is much joy, since I hated it as a kid because my father made me do it. Our yard is now a garden paradise for her with one problem, I haven't figured out how to get her to use the riding mower with much consistency. She claims she's not technically proficient, but she can use any power tool to work in her garden. Maybe I'm getting scammed??????? JFZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2008 11:04:16 AM   I just checked with people in Melitopol, Actually $200 - $250/month to rent an aprtment is a typical price. But most people cannot afoord to rent their own unless they work 2 jobs. They normally stay with their parents. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > TRUTHFUL OR NOT?
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