Hey guys. I have just started my quest for searching for a wife in the Ukraine.
I have been reading in this forum, and I am left with alot of confusion. So many people
seem to have so many opinions ranging from "Great Idea" to "Its all a Scam". I see some of the guys here have had success. Has anybody here know of anyone who has married one of the super pretty girls?
I have seen some testimonials, but have never seen an absolute knockout like you see on some of the sites. I am not completely into looks, I do look for much more than that, I have lived with pretty women who didn't have much personality, and I didn't like it. But lets face it, FSU has alot of allure because of the nature of how pretty the women are.
So I've learned the basics, don't send money, verify everything you can. But from reading many posts on this site, it looks like this can be a several year process, if it ever happens at all. Others say a year is enough. I am admittedly confused about the nature of Ukraine women. I've read everything from snobs with one outfit, that smoke, and have expensive cell phones, to traditional women who care for nothing other than loving her family. Can some experienced guys please weigh in here and help me out a little? To give you a little background about me, I am 27, decent build, average looks, engineer.
Thanks.
"snobs with one outfit, that smoke, and have expensive cell phones, to traditional women who care for nothing other than loving her family"
I think most of them manage to be a bit of both. Having been to Ukraine twice now I'm still trying to work the social dynamics. My theory so far is that there is basically a "class" system based on beauty: the women compete intensely with each other with their heels/outfits/phones etc to establish a kind of pecking order. Basically they are all skint so this is the way they channel their competitive urges. Unlike western girls who dress to catch the eyes of men, it seems they mostly doing it for the benefit of each other.
The beautiful ones seem to expect ordinary Ukrainians (both men and women) to almost defer to them, its interesting to watch the way they treat anyone they meet from taxi drivers to restaurant staff to people on the street who they are asking direction from: they expect total attention and seem to be quite curt with them.
"If you are of the belief that all ladies in Ukraine are, quote, super pretty girls then you need to get out more."
Actually I would go as far as to say that the average Ukrainian (man or woman) is not especially attractive, probably less attractive than the average in the UK. Its just that the 10 women to 9 men demographic means that comparatively speaking there is an abundance of good looking single ones and they make themselves very visible.
Whether these ladies are more beautiful than women in other places is in the eye of the beholder. But I think in public these ladies present themselves better and take care of themselves more than most women in the states do. I have yet to notice a woman in Ukraine in the market in her pajamas and not many there that did not look their best before coming out. And physical beauty is not in the control of the lady but taking care of it and bringing it out is.
There certainly are many incredibly beautiful women over there - I managed to marry one of them. It doesn't take years - but the search is not as easy as you'll want it to be. It took me a year of looking - and 2 failed trips to Russia - before I found my wife. I, however, shouldn't call those 2 trips failures. They were learning experiences - and they were fun.
I suggest that, if you decide to go this route, you enjoy the journey and not allow yourself to miss the fun that's to be had in your search the "the one".
One thing for sure, there are many pretty faces here in Nikolaev. As with any person, it's whats inside that counts. When I decided to stay in Nikolaev for a few months, I had no idea I would still be here after 5. I know so many people of all ages here. I can tell you am having a great time with Larisa and teaching English.
Thanks guys, and to clear up, beauty is not all I am looking for. As I mentioned my ex wife is a very beautiful woman, and beauty did not keep me happy. I have to be honest, that I would prefer a beautiful woman, naturally.
I have heard that running a personal ad in the FSU local papers is a good way to start and also having a local russian expert look on personals inside of russia.
What do you guys think? Supposedly this is supposed to lower the number of people you run into who might be actively seeking to be dishonest? I don't know, like I said, I am just getting started and looking for the advice of guys/gals who know more about this than me, and trying to avoid as many pitfalls as possible.
Thanks Again!
Martin_FFC, your right, I am looking in the Ukraine. Up until now I have used them interchangeably, not the best at geography! :( maybe not so much of a prodigy all the time lol
prodigy,
It might not go down too well travelling to Ukraine and calling it Russia, perhaps alike travelling to USA and calling it Canada!
You need to stop looking at pretty pictures only, if that's what you're doing, and read in depth into what they say about themselves. If they have very little to say then they may be either boring, non English speaking, or indeed scammers, the genuine ones tend to write more about themselves, and whatever they may say about themselves run a sentence of it thru Google just to see where else that exact same sentence may turn up.
But, at the end of the day, you need to get yourself to Ukraine if for nothing else merely to establish that they are not all, indeed far from it, 'super pretty' and just to get a grasp on reality and to take the next step from there, meet with some locals, talk to ladies, come to realise first hand that the majority are happy to stay in Ukraine and not all pretty ones are seeking guys 20 ish years older.
And, please, try to ignore the pr1ck that posted immediately after you :)
dummy3777 write one of his typical stupisenttences.
" tonite i go out with 8 hair dressers all single all good all different . and this morning went fishing and i see a gorgouse woman fishing . russia ukrain same as same ."
He's going out with EIGHT women - which can only mean HE's expected to pay for all - OR he's accepted as "one of the girls". Maybe dummy3777 has ladylike tendencies, like MOST guys who hang out with hairdressers have?
And today he saw another "gorgouse girl" (one who is gorged, or stuffed) fishing. Wow. He's learned to identify fat women by just observing them. What will he learn next?
Danny3777 is making a good point. If you go to a city and just hang out it's more economical than weeks or months of e-mailing to end up meeting someone you don't like. If you just want to meet girls its the same routine as in your home town, except the girls are more receptive because in the first place they see you as unusual in as much as you are from the west...it gets your foot in the door so to speak.
From then on its up to you.
Small cites...yes..not Kiev or St Petersburg where some of the women have an attitude (not all...but alot.
The girls in the smaller cities are a breath of fresh air.
Mind you...it helps if your presentable and give them their due respect.