I wish to get an answer from you about this
I had travel to Russia and Ukraine
I had met four ladies and all of them but one gave me bed time
on the first night.
I am not complaining, but I was not even asking.
What do you think?
Do not complain about my English remember I am from Latin America and English is my second language
I've known guys who were "sex tourists". I didn't condone what they did, but it was their decision to make. These guys seemed to find a ready supply of FSU women who were willing too sleep with them on the first night.
In my case I started this whole thing to look for a woman who wanted a commited one-on-one relationship. Consequently, I've never pressed for sex the first night - and never had it.
I did not look for sex, I had invested enough time searching for them I had chatted and mail and phone call them for over three months
I actually went to their cities and got small hotel in Nikolaev and Mariopol and Saratov
One can go to Miami or LA and find a beautiful Russian hot girl willing to travel and get her pay
I am trying to see if I was lucky or I got the wrong ladies, if you had a clue i appreciate your points
I would have to agree with jet on that. I have heard you can find this kind of lady for a small fee if that is what you are after. I prefer a different kind of woman though and I will leave all of that type for you sex tourists.
I think i got the answer, I did not go for xs nor I asked for it, I just do not know if is the culture, all ladies I had met from Ukraine and Russia had xs from early age and seem not to worry about it
I think I will just give up, I used this time an agency to fixed the meeting for me and now same thing
Well I appreciate your answers
OM..if I remember correctly, while you wrote to girls, you mentioned to them how well off you were and I know you spent $$ while with them...I think they equated your ability to provide and they provided you with something, some girls are like that. Must be the type of girls you picked. I am sure you were looking for the 'hot' looking ones. Am I wrong?
You're not alone. I've been to quite a few places already on this globe, but only there have I experienced women being rather upfront, doing some chasing even. They're not slutty, not at all, just a whole heap more honest in a way we males are too. Surely sex is pleasant?
Indeed late(r) at night seems better, but no money whatsoever plays a role - maybe a drink or meal but I'd hardly consider that payment. And no, I'm no sex-tourist either, neither silly to say no.
They have ways to get what they want, however in a manner alien to us - or at least to me. I'm no hunk but had no problems whatsoever, and the surprising bit is that they really start young. But, and here that 'real man' thingy may kick in, you better act on what's served on the silver platter, 'cause I've got this hunch that those who don't loose out forever.
Another funny thing is that not all press to see you again. Only the more mature one's in my experience, the young one's simply disappeared. And, let's be honest now, such makes for a rather unique playground, I can well understand why the not so serious chaps go there, it makes for an excellent holiday.
In short I'd not think too much of it, but also do not take for granted that all three were marriage material.
om, i am lost to why you said anything about such, the sex,, do you eat, do you drink, or even say excuse me.
do you understand what I am getting at.
mate" sex is a normal human need of living as most other things.
don't worry about it or what anyone else thinks, people are allowed to be sexually attracted to another person, and if the other feels the same what the f**K is the problem.
who gives a toss what anyone thinks about having a nice moment.
and don't down grade a women for been a little liberated.
i kind of get sick of hearing this sex tourist bull.
soon we will need forms filled out in duplicate and co signed by who knows saying I'm having sex because "f**ked if i know" but I'm not a sex tourist, ridiculous..
om" women like sex to.
bottom line, did you like her or not.
back to reality,,,
om your match is out there, she's somewhere, hey maybe not in Ukraine but om don't do something you don't enjoy.
that's a disaster waiting to happen.
if you enjoy Ukraine or Russian go for it, travel it, and she will find you.
if the trips just upsets you, stop.
This ladies I had not offer them anything nor I had mentioned about my economical
One was a bit more into how much you can help me, but the other two the one from Saratov she was glad when I left I gave a bit money for some personal use, she told me she lives on 40 dollars a month from her parents
The other lady did not even accept my monetary gift, she has her own small busines
I am talking about my bias, sex in the afternoon or morning or night in the hotel with a man just meet is out my mind, but I am sure is not for them is different
By the way gentelman
I did have a nice time and I am not complaining I will travel to visit two of them this June and then try to travel one of them for vacations
I am happy you see it normal, I am not a saint I love the Russian and Ukraine ladies always willing to look good even just for a walk in a park, I will go in shorts,T shirt and sandals to have breackfast and they will come sexy clothes I mean all ladies
I was in Kiev at the Four Seasons by myself and I walked around for a day what a treat to my eyes
The sad part is they are temperamental
Well I got several answers the best of all is that we all here have a place where to breath out our points
sex can always wait if your truly interested in someone... the sexual part then gets in the way of getting to know someone.. and its then only after the sex aspect wears off and then you finally get to know this person, this should be the other way around.. i always say wait.(of course when you are in the position and it happens very few men me included would say no lol)... Its better to know the person well, and there will be more to sex than just an act.
And of course sex with someone you care for is far better than just a one night stand.
I am glad I am not so odd in this I feel the same
I spent with the ladies over a week and treat them well I mean hold their arms took them to eat nice place, we had good long walks and talks eat on the street and markets as well got souvenirs for my kids and propuse two of them to meet in their countries again maybe back in their city or another city
I think if all okey they may worth to take one, the one I will try to keep to another country vacation later this year.
So far only small gift, I do not want to fall in the hole of money for pleasure
Maybe early next year or late this year I will try to meet the family
There is sex for the purposes of sex and thats all it is..just sex and a one night stand and a chance for a girl to blow her load so as to speak and then there is sex that comes from love for the person and each other..two completely different things.
The two types of sex so as to speak.
1. Sex coming from lust and attraction and nothing more...you can't make a relationship on this basis and its a one night stand
2. Sex coming from love and romance and emotional attachment to each other..you can make a relationship but this second sex is much harder to obtain..to get the right chemistry so as to speak.
Sexual encounter number 1 is by far the most common.
Just because a women goes to bed with you on the first night of a meeting does not mean she is a slut but the chances are its quite likely she likes to sleep around.
Most men would love to blow their sausage with a hot, young fsu babe..thats reality and the facts..come on, if a young attractive Ukraine women took her clothes off for you and gave you the come on, you are not going to tell her to put her clothes back again and be a true old fashioned Christian..nature and urges will take its course and most men will be getting their clothes off and going for it..that does not make a man a sex tourist!
re Aussieman! I agree its justs makes you a man its what we are genetically programmed to want and do!
Getting to know a woman before hand though however is much sweeter for me and anticipation can make it all very good to. Sex just for sex is good at the time but very unfulfilling long term.
I am affraid that I will have to place my on romance there was not love, I can not love one by reading mails chatting and phone calls
I had a lady that I like alot and wish to fall in love but is not yet there
I am trying to open my narrow mind
Women in Russia and FSU start sex some time around age 16 and by 25 had at least six to ten different man, had a couple of mature men and can ride to the max.'
I wonder if this ladies after 26 or when are ready to seettle down.
I am 46 wish to get a 32 to 36 professional not for the working issue but for the conversational and life sharing time
I agree that girls/women in FSI treat sex more liberal than in Catholic or protestant countries - its partly to do with their Orthodox upbringing - you find the same in Romania/Bulgaria/Serbia etc.
But I don't think that the number of men they have is large though of course they want a dominat, mature, social affluent and mature man who can "lead" them and not so have coped loser. M
ost women at 25 have had 10-20 guys where as in the US or Uk it is more around 50-100 which is of a completely different order and is due to possibility of locations to meet guys and nothing to do with the women's desire. Women are women everywhere and all enjoy sex but location to meet men, unhindered by society's programs, possibly limits their frequency and not their desire or anything else.
I would though strongly agree tthough that the FSU women are very temperemtal - maybe something to do with their diet/water or something - because it is absurd and does not make sense otherwise.
So for one night stand that ends up in something longer, go for it
yes in US probably more or the same
But they are not trying to get marriage with a man older
There is a US survey which supports the issue
40% of young women, will marry a man over 10 yrs if he has over 1 million in assets besides his home
20% of young men will do the same
Age consider to marry in US goes from 28 to 36 in woman and over 32 in man
the ladies in Russia or FSU want to be marry before 25
I wish to get this young lady to know me well and wait when she is ready she is 23 I am 46 I told her when she is 27 I am 50 then if she can hold solid I will go for it
Before I do not want to be another braveheart case
trouble is Collen you might find cobwebs down there from the lack of use..
hey sex is sex cant you Irish think with one head:)
there are two types of people in everything so.
a month or months waiting for the moment:) ok if there's such i wait, yes true you may fall in love to some extent and then you come to have that moment,,,sex,....
one has to wonder why that moment took so long to get to,,, just maybe they don't like sex,, its a sure sign of a long wait, she or he is just not attracted to you like that or they just don't like sex.
for me that would really hack me off, "waiting for that bus that never arrives",, been down that road, stuff that.
a lot of divorces are probably over such,, who wants a partner that doesn't care for sex.
or how outrageous is this,,, who wants a partner who wants sex:)))) there's plenty of people out there sitting on that fence.
i think these people:)) man or women who don't enjoy it should have a stamp on the heads in duplicate "yeah duplicate" saying I'm only looking for sex once a year or maybe only for kids, "this would make life easier for a lot of people" and solve a few divorce courts there time.
ok just maybe when it finally happens, you find out you are just not compatible sexually.
now you have to say sorry but, bit rough..
bugger the waiting..
compatibility is what its all about, faster one finds out the better, what ever it is, but if you want to wait around, good for you but then maybe the other person will end up running off with someone else from the tedious waiting..
its not simple is it, this search:)
do people really think 16 years is early to start having sex, i thought that was average.
sadly i can think of a few 13-14 year old girls here that are mothers, crazy shit.
These women are meeting a man who may be a future husband. There may not be long time to bond. You have already developed a relationship to want to visit them. They dont want you seeking out other girls if you are not being satisfied. There are time pressures. Sex is important in marriage and if you are not compatible why waste more time on the relationship. I think it is great to develop both the sex and personal relationship at the same time. Not many of these guys are as lucky as I am to spend 4 years of regular visits to develop a relationship.
Your point is a good one. Things ARE necessarily hurried along in these relationships. But even if you have been writing to them for a while its usually assumed that you will be spending a FEW days with them (as opposed to one single night). For appearance sake, many women will simply not jump into bed with you (again we are assuming here that there is SOME intention of a long term relationship on both sides) merely because they do not want to to give the impression that they sleep with ANYBODY on first meeting.
Its recognized that for every moment spent together there will be many moments pent apart and jealousy is a part of human nature. What is a guy to think if the lady jumps into bed too quickly? That she might do the same with some other guy as soon as this one has gone home.
Some others here have mentioned quick nameless casual sex as a possibility with FSU women and others. THAT phenomenon exists everywhere (FSU AND western countries) and usually occurs with women in their early twenties who have just discovered their sexuality as a recreational thing.
But as a rule FSU serious FSU women are NOT likely to immediately jump into bed with western men.