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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > moral dilemma Author Post devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2008 6:03:36 PM   I have proof that a lady I met (not the one I posted about earlier ... jurys still out on that one) is a pro dater and has been stringing along several other guys as well as me, and I don't mean just meeting but traveling all over the world on vacations and pretending to be "serious" about all of us. Basically I managed to get access to her personal email account (god is was heart breaking to read but ...) which I know is maybe reprehensible in itself but ... I feel that I owe it to all her other victims to "out" her. Thoughts ?. If I though she was actually serious about any of us and merely keeping her options open then that would be fair enough but this lady has been living a highlife of exotic holidays and designer clothes all funded by careful juggling of her multiple "boyfriends". jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2008 6:53:14 PM   HOW did you get access to her personal email? peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2008 9:23:17 PM   for some reason, my girl olya felt the need to prove that i was the only one she was emailing and serious about, so she gave me access to her email. mostly emails from her sister. felt strange reading her email. she told me the other day that her sister had changed her hair colour and sent her a photo so i should check it in her email account! we're on the phone so much she'd have to be very clever to carry on another relationship (of sorts)! oh well... after even more delays... i'll be seeing her in kyiv on 16th... i think that if it was me then i *would* say/send something to the other 'victims'. i'm just not quite sure exactly what i would say. /pete devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 1:32:25 AM   I do not want to discuss the means in a public forum that may be read by scammers, and I encourage people not to speculate here and give the scammers clues. If anyone is interested further they can contact me with a private message. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 3:47:37 AM   Why don't you just forget about her and move on. Reading her emails is pretty reprehensible. You seem to have made it your business to police her life. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 5:33:41 AM   bass, If you are in to her email account then 'you' needn't write to the other guys at all, simply resend her previous letter to each of the guys to a different guy thus Joe from Texas might receive a letter intended for Bass in UK etc. etc. etc. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 9:01:12 AM   My dilemma is especially acute because one of her suitors is antipodian and is considering travelling to ukraine to meet her: this is a guy who is under the impression that he is going to me meeting a lady who a) isn't already regularly meeting and having sex with at least two other guys and b) is ready to settle down and have kids (which she so clearly isn't). Thing is I'm a big believer in the principal that standing by while someone perpetrates evil when you have the power to stop it, is as bad as perpetrating it yourself ... To be honest I don't feel too guilty about what I did because if I'm going to trust someone with my future financial and emotional well being then I'm damn well going to use every possible means of making sure they are for real. anothermug2 beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 8:06:59 PM   Bassuk...if you are an honest person and have morals why did you have to invade another persons privacy. You must have had a bad feeling about her to have to resort to underhanded dealings. There are girls like this everywhere. just be thankful you are not being used by her anymore. I understand your dilemma but as my father told me...never get involved with another persons business unless another life or child is at stake. It's your call!!! Can I ask you...did you break any laws( even gry area) in getting her address? peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2008 9:50:39 PM   personally i don't blame bassuk for what he did. better to know than not to. as it happens i was nearly kicked out of bath university in my first year for my hacking antics. it's all a lot (scarily) easier than you might want to think. /pete VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 5:02:38 AM   I think you should tell the other guys. I was in a somewhat similar situation (although without the email hacking part), and ended up not telling the other guy. This lady played the other guy for all he was worth--she came to the U.S., messed around with other guys before their marriage, then married the guy, and shortly thereafter filed domestic violence charges against him that were not valid. Because of all the protections available to foreign women in this situation, she ended up getting a divorce and being able to stay in the U.S.--which is really what she wanted all along. I knew about all of this before their wedding, but didn't tell the other guy. At the time, I decided that I should mind my own business and count my blessings that it wasn't me who was getting scammed. However, after it was all said and done, I feel rather guilty that I let this guy go through all of this. He had legal troubles, lost many thousands of dollars, and wasted several years of his life on this girl. It's true that it was not life or death, but the whole thing had very serious consequences for this guy. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 6:35:22 AM   Bassuk is correct 100% hey if your paying in sufference and money and worry - believe me she owe's you a bit of personal life - find the bitch out definately before some poor basterd gets stung. Fuggem they play the game they can wear the penalty - somebody say something about policeing her life ! hey thats the pot calling the kettle black aint it '. dont lose site hey your not dealing with a ''morals and roses race'' hear 80% are crooks err hello ! lets not lose the big picture -- most most russian birds are guilty until proven innocent , this is not a race thats starts off clean - then gets dirty ! this is a race born in survival / scam mode and we have to sort through the basklet of apples find a couple that are consumable . so lets not go all teary and lose the plot hear 80% are the enemy/ bandits !! Bassuk you stick to your guns mate your dead right and if i had a bird like that playing men for men id be on her door drag her down the steps by the hair. I WOULD GIVE HER A DECENT SERVE ---------AS THAT IS NOT EXCUSEABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES i only wish i could look into there email accounts . personally because they are born with a deciet cap on i believe every woman should freely give her western man access to view her email account bloody oath she should ( if she is honest she will ) mike00 devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 8:27:08 AM   I'm definitely going to let the other guys know in some way or other, this woman is a positive danger to anyone looking for serious relationship - she knows exactly what buttons to push, is very personable and charming. The main problem I'm going to have is doing it in a way that she cant easily counter because she is smart and very persuasive and a totally natural and convincing liar. anothermug2 MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 10:50:23 AM   HOW stpid should be a peson to DARE to READ smbody's private mail!! Looking at those guy I just see how miserable they are. Me, personally, I would never ever open my partner's correspondence cs I highly respect the right of every person for private thoughts and things. All I care in this case - is what I have in between us. thus, automatically, right to flirt with other ladies is granted to my parnter. if he wants. the trick is that the One I Choose wont do it. No need. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 11:59:44 AM   BTW, what's an antipodian? devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2008 4:05:29 PM   Monada, you have to remember that there is a huge amount at stake here for us. Most western countries have divorce laws which make it easy for a woman to walk off with a sizable proportion of a mans wealth at will once they have residency (usually after 2 years). So think about that - we have to know that we can trust a woman with everything we've worked for our whole lives, and thats not even counting the emotional damage. A 25-35 year old woman coming into the relationship with no wealth of her own to speak of has very little to lose and plenty of time to try again. Also this woman has gone WAY beyond flirting - she has met another guy at several times before we even met, and now she is happily jumping into bed with me telling me how serious she is about me (and continuing to tell the other guy the same of course), AND she is currently grooming another guy to come to visit her presumably to do the same thing. anothermug2 MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2008 2:07:22 AM   hope at least you gave her a good f*ck. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2008 2:22:35 AM   maybe i am lucky! i am about to go through a divorce. we were best friends for about 7 years and married for about 4 years. she doesn't wasn't anything except for us to be best friends again. we are both british. maybe i won't be so lucky 2nd time! lol! /pete MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2008 3:17:33 AM   Dead correct Bassuk look at Australia the women clean out laws, my god its suicide to marry hear its a real mugs game ( 1 good thing about USSR ) (a) I DONT THINK THEY'D KNOW SHITE FROM CLAY AS FAR AS TAKING THE MANS ASSETTS BE THEY BOTH LIVING IN USSR ! (b) I TRULY DONT THINK THEY'D BOTHER !what would you want to own there that she could possibly be interested in ? not much there we'd want to own ay !! (c) IN 99% CASES THEY CAN ONLY GET WHATS IN YOUR POCKET ON THE DAY - WHEN YOUR THERE. SO 3 PLUSSES THERE ! that keeps me interested in USSR ! your the BOSS THERE ! She shuffles along behind like ole prince phillip behind the queen ! yes ! yes yes hear they can piss off legally with 85% of your pie ( bring em to the west they cry = IDIOTS AY ) They do have time to regroup there deciet plans age 25/ 35 yes i agree ! some do and some dont? like my mates wife married to an aussie she married at 23 7 years back they both live in moscow hes aussie 49 she now 30 but she's a rarey she could not steal a ruble if you thrust it into her hand , i would trust her with my life and 50k in a suitcase . But thats like finding ''king solomons mine '' i think this woman is 1 in like 7000 And i dont think its the ''norm ''.( she failed deciet school ) bought herself a concience ! thats rare . Still ive met her girlfriends too --- straight as arrows -but then you meet there the next poor basterd westerner living there and he's going through mountains of grief getting wroughted to death . Its all very hard to pin down iam into my 9th year with em ive sort of worked out 80% of there doings ! but they always seem to have 1 more deciet card up there pants that you missed . They have an uncanny ability to turn turtle on you , without warning , and mostly for no apparent reason ! all very queer , even a couple of good russian guy's i know ( yes there is only 2 gooduns in Russia ) they can't seem to work it out either - it just appears a national passtime to decieve , almost like they got nothing to lose / nothing else to do so lets wrought the boyfriend ! I don't know mate iam sure in Russian education after high school is over they go to Finishing school ''but its not finishing school as we know it '' I think its the national school of deciet ! -- what else can it be ay ? And they seem to go to exorbitant lengths to extract small dollars from the boyfriend, the reasoning is just not worth the amount . You can marvel at it??? what they go to--- to extract just that little big more blood out of your already empty wallet . You read on hear ''oh mine cost me nothing we in USA NOW '' SHE COST YOU NOTHING HOW'S THAT WORK VISA FARES / PAPERS ALL THE BULLSHIT YOU GO THROUGH DAY 1 TO WHEN SHE LANDS ON USA SOIL - huh i know what all that costs = heaps . I seen one hear in Aussie last year guy brought her back, got married , all looked rosy ! he started to kick on in business she called him a capitolist basterd ! after 7 months ! he went 5 times russia fares / accom all the crap total $15,800 AUD -- brought her to hear more big $$$ 7 months later she pissed off , He's a grand total $29k out of pocket ( i did warn him - dont bring it to hear you turn it into a money fox !! )( oh she be right he cried !( talk about bringing the plague to the people ay ) Another idiot for the stewing divorce pot ay she took him to the cleaners , guess who got his MERC ! SHE DID HA HA !~ EXPENSIVE ROOT AY ! And he said she was no good at that she would have got a job as a stagnant fish in fish farm for how exciting she was in the sack --29k = shot fer shit and hung him for his car = lovely girl - need's whipping ! GUESS WHO SHE PISSED OFF WITH A RUSSIAN BLOKE WHO NEVER HAD 2 CENTS = GO FIGURE IT ????????????? Other side of the coin ! in Russia ohh she knew who buttered the bread, and no way did she put a foot wrong, but hear they change mate - instant assholes just add money . mike00 Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2008 4:49:29 AM   Any woman who uses a man to gain entry into US or Europe with falsity will give the game away long before she gets caught out. If folks are too stupid to read the signs then they should join the rest of the bottom feeders. Read the forum posts and stories about scammers, the signs are everywhere. Like Monada says; give her a good f**k and move on. Leave the others guys to take care of themselves. If they can't spot the signs...f**K em. These girls will dine out on your soul...but only if you let them. There's a big, big difference between a sincere woman and a player. A woman who wants you will climb moutains to be with you. A woman whose only purpose is to use you as a means to an end is easy to spot....you just feel it. If something doesn't feel right...then it ain't. Too many guys ignore their instincts about women cos they're too needy. They want to believe this girls wants them, so they ignore all the read flags. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2008 9:35:01 AM   Looks like Monada has learned a new English word and is quite proud of it. Only read two of her posts and she used it in each. Almost nobody else ever drives the forum into the gutter like she does. Congratulations MONADA! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > moral dilemma
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