lol! on a lighter note i'll be flying to kyiv on 16th for around six weeks. i'll also be going to odessa at some point during the trip and i'd also like to see lviv. probably spend the first two weeks travelling around. /pete
You should be safe in Ukraine Pete because you're going with an adult head and whilst you may not yet appreciate that Borispol Airport is not in the city of Kiev at least you appreciate that Ukraine is within Europe and not an add-on to Europe.
- No stupid idiot. It's the Wild Jungles with scammers on every step.
If you won't be scammed till hole in your wollet and manage to find the woman for "marriage",
most of all you will be killed by her father. If not father,
her mommy will become an angry shadow behind your back sending all wishes for you to burn in hell together with your western pasport.
If even you resist to all that, be read to fight with about 20 another western men sending wishes of happiness to your woman together with desires to fuck her as far as you make one step away from her.
and what is the most horrible thing is that all I say is not an uly joke but holy truth.
Tickets are not cancelled yet??? then prepare money money moeny, cs every step on ukrainian land will cost you minimum 5 bucks.
Lviv - yes, lovely place. Stay at Hotel Eney, if you want quiet romantic stay, nice pool etc. Cant find the direct www site 4it, but spend some time googling and you will. Not cheap - but real nice for a few nights.
I loved all of Western Ukraine - going back this year and going to drive and stay B&B's.
excellent! cheers maxirat! i will make sure that we go there! right now i don't care about 'cheap' i just want to spend some time with olya. mind you... i still hope i get that gps so i don't get lost! lol! /pete
Nooga we are not the ones you need to impress. The ladies are. Judging by the reaction you get from the ladies on this forum you appear to be failing in that respect. There is a good chance you will die a virgin if you continue in your approach.
espessially when Quasi explaned me that "have money" for this boy means his 400$ weekly income and he he wants to get f*ck showing to girls his dick and lolies like those italian men coming to Bolgaria in 70s.
nooga if you fly in to odessa watch out for the taxi drivers that hang around near the exchange booth some are dodgy (not all) be wary of the ones watching what you exchange.
your best bet is to find a local one outside with the sign on the roof and telephone number on the car.
my taxi which took me to nikolaev was a dodgy one he kept stopping for toilets and food and drink etc each time asking if i would like to get and stretch my legs needless to say i stayed put with my luggage. then to top it all we got to nikolaev when the price we agreed on suddenly went up 200uah more needless to say i didnt pay it, but thats another story.
I know it was my first time in ukraine but i do travel a lot and i found it was the nicest place i have visited the people for the most part are very friendly and helpfull but make sure your learn the essential phrases as they will appreciate it and be more helpfull.
above act like an adult and keep wary as you would when when you travel anywhere always follow you common sense and you will enjoy it. But if you are rude and act like a idiot then dont expect to feel welcome.
I'm still trying to come to terms with the thought that I could possibly be jealous of a naive kid who can only think with the head between his legs :)
just been reading some of your earlier comments nooga i think you will be in for a shock when you get there. As the women will not be falling over your feet as you seem to think they are. Most woman are seeking someone who is mature ,honest and reliable for a long term relationship the same as woman anywhere.
If you are just after geeting laid you are better of staying at home with you hand/local prostitues and saving your money.
got paid $2639 this week gents, and it don't stop there!
man oh man. I am a lucky kid to be on this kind of money and only 20.
I can gurantee you all that we are shitting ourselves as now it is getting closer. We know no russian, ukrainian, french, italian, any european language. We behave like western kids and will only be drawing attention to ourselves from the clothes that we will be wearing to what we find amusing.
Come on guys, lets make ammends now, if you will. We dont really expect to go there and the girls be dropping at our feet, but travel there and learn this traditional way of life and the more respectable culture that they lead. A place where there is minimal western influence and the woman have different values to the women in our countries.
I am now going to sit back and listen with respect from what all you people have to say. Jet, Land of Oz, even you Martin, and all the others.
the Ukraine embassy here in aus thinks we will have a good time and be safe, but you people scare me more every day. I am making my decision solely on what you guy have to say.
we will be jetting the country with $10,000 in pocket for 6 weeks away. I cannot afford to stay off diet (phenylketonuria) for too long otherwise brain damage will set in. So I hope to have a good time, as I know I cannot go back to Europe at my leisure.
Is it really true that once you are discovered as a foreigner, all ukrainian men will swarm on you?
How much of restaurants, signs, people, maps, airports, cities have english written?
Some of the restaurants have English menus. I did not notice many English signs. Some of the people have English written on their T-Shirts but do not have labels such as hair, ears, eyes, mouth and such in English so you can learn their anatomy. I have not seen English maps not to say they do not exist but the street signs are not in English so they would not be recognized even if you knew the English. I am not sure where you would need to view from to see if the city has English written on it. Even if you knew how names of streets are spelled in English you would probably not be able to pronounce them well enough for a native to know what you were trying to say because the intonation is different. You make so much money why dont you hire an interpreter/guide for the first day or two until you see if you can navigate on your own.
Monalda italian men jeses christ last card in the barrel ay Deciet with a Capitol D OHH another loser race ay ! very sad !Id like to have some say in Government your country i would let 6 races of westerners only -come in to russia -that way you avoid all the shit easy yes .
Italians , greeks turks , muslims ohh my god,
life's all over then isn't it ?> dirty smelly maggoty basterd races!live like pigs and one thing ay i wont be with a bird if she has ever been with any these basterd races ! to me she no better than a prostitute if she been with any of the basterd races .
i like a girl brand new !
You really can't go past an Aussie as the best other half i dont say that because iam Aussie i say it because the next race behind us in Quality well you need a telescope to see them coming .
money to a correct woman in Russia should mean Absolutely nothing iam correct? ( meant nothing to my first girl i could not even give her any she'd pass it back to me )( where have all those girls gone .
Monalda i have no INTENTION of ever getting married again iam a forever fiance type person i WILL NOT MARRY ANYBODY AND THANK GOD MARRIAGE IS FADEING AWAY IN THIS WORLD marriage is shit piece of paper and a ring ! and you dont love her anymore with it or without it .
Couple the girls ive lived with last 2 years in Russia mention marriage i just say to em whatever gives you that idea?? sorry iam not interested i will only live with a bird forever - its the same deal anyway . lots hear are similar , that way if it all turns to shit you can both walk away no big damage done .
The darling wants me she live by my rules - person paying for life makes the rules !
Nooga stay home and find a local girl...you too stupid and naive and the Ukraina women will eat you and spit you out ( like Monada )..you will be sorely disappointed in your experience..don't flash your money around or boast about your income there if you are stupid enough to go to Ukraine..you are a victim waiting to be scammed and burnt...the women will not come and worship you at your feet, all you will attract will be the the whores, scammers, users and gold diggers but more likely local high priced whores who will charge $150 USD an hour for a root or a scammer who will take you on a shopping trip, screw you out of thousands first, sleep with you a couple of times and the sex will be crap ( she will close her eyes and think about something else while you are screwing her and fake her orgasms because you will revolt her and she will do for the financial gain ) and in the end she will spit you out on the garbage!
Ukraina women..great actresses and manipulators waiting for idiots like you, Nooga..their predators and your no match for them!