I am beginning to think the Ukrainian government or something alike has put her here to scare us off from traveling to Ukraine. She is a monster. She calls herself a lady?
actually, don't be scared. UA ladies are politest ladies in the world. You'll be amased. but as an advice - odessa is not a good place for young boy like you. keep in mind aids. And better if you have sm trustful guide.
as a plus - women there almost naked in summer. there are a lot of beautiful and damn moldovians and gagaus (turkish ethnicity) + coming for vacation.
I remember last time when I was in odessa beach the amount of model looking girls was 50%. It's really a pleasure for eyes.... I'm sure you won't see that even in kalifornia c.
other 50% is divided between men, fat women and kids.
In THIS regard your fears are perfectly understandable.
You've never been to Ukraine and now this nooga thing pops up, purporting to speak for ALL Ukrainian women.......
If I didn't KNOW what Ukrainian women were REALLY like - I would be scared to death to go there and meet something like this Monada thing as well. I mean, she once posted a weblink to an album of pictures of herself and she's NOT bad looking (not the best mind you but not bad either) but yet her personality is absolutely psychotic. I can see where you would be afraid.
But fear not - Monada is NOT like typical Ukrainian women who can be very sweet, understanding and demure.
Don't let Monada scare you away. Maybe you should be afraid of OTHER THINGS in UKraine - but not women like Monada.
nooga,
I can also understand concerns, indeed if all women were like 'it' then I'd have probably topped myself or turned gay years ago, but fortunately they are not all like 'it'.
But this is a lesson for you nooga, there you are looking at pretty pictures and, from what you posted here previously, writing with them on a somewhat immature level.
Bearing in mind that you planned, already, on travelling there this summer you had the opportunity to communicate maturely with them to wittle out any that you wouldn't have been interested in by their personality, attitude etc. Instead you only wrote, from what we read, about having a good time this summer.
Some Ukrainian/Russian etc. ladies can have an attitude problem, they like to put themselves up on a pedestal and believe that they are better than others, but this normally comes if they are particularly pretty etc. Why 'it' has such an attitude remains a mystery because it ain't all that in appearance and it certainly ain't all that in personality.
But have few fears nooga, should you come across one with an attitude then there's plenty more pebbles on the beach.
"Some Ukrainian/Russian etc. ladies can have an attitude problem, they like to put themselves up on a pedestal and believe that they are better than others"
Like Quasi said Monada is considered the 'golden egg' of the family. Enough said.
Girls like her are best ignored, they hate that and that can be worked to your advantage.
Also Nooga your unlikely to meet a girl like Monada as the girls you'll meet haven't had time to become old and bitter.
I think you will not need to worry about Monada eating you. She will give you enough warning to get out of the way. The ladies over there that will eat you will do it quietly and you will not even know it until it is too late.
You of all people have no reason to complain about her. You have not been where she has, seen what she has, or even understand what some of the posts of this forum remind her of. I would bet money that there is a different lady under the aggressive protective shell you see on this forum.
Now the main point I am making with this is that I believe Monada has experienced meeting the quality of men that normally come to the FSU seeking romance. Now you on the other hand came to this forum knowing very little if anything about the people on it, the FSU, or the FSU ladies. Your opening statement on here was ------- "Old Googsies All of You now listen here.
I'm show you all how its done...
First of all I am a 20 year old KID from Australia... In August (summer) we are travelling to Odessa and Sevastopol to SNIFF GIRLS OUT and GET THEIR RATS OUT... We are not struggling. We are all normal boys. You are old men looking for a wife in Ukraine (struggling)"----------
My personal opinion is if you go over there looking to exploit the young girls and video the act as you mentioned in another post for bragging rights and Monada or a group for the protection and ethical treatment of FSU ladies ate you for supper or fed you to their dogs I do not think it would be a great loss.
This Moneyda-thing is a monster indeed. It blabbers on relentlessly, is full of both itself and shit, wishes to be on a pedestal but cannot reach that high, it scares even crows and is unladylike in every respect.
Such makes her rare in her age-bracket and absolutely non-existent in the much younger class you're hankering after, so don't let it bother you in the least. Mind you, it should give the word 'marry' a different meaning to you though.
I sponsored a woman via the K-1 VISA. She was the type who put herself on a pedastal. Plus she was extremly attractive and hated all men. She had a bad attitude. I sent her back. There was too many mind games, and she treated me poorly. I was a different kind of person than she was thinking of.
The only reason I sent her back was she met this girl at an immigration law office. Their Translator. They became instant soul mates and ofcourse since they speak the same language and are the same age, presto. I am a distant 3rd person. So they started colluding against me. I sent my girl back to Russia, and I took the translator to court on fraud charges. It wasn't fraudelent for them to become soul mates, or even if my girl tells me she prefers another person different from me. It was fraud because they were conspiring to inflict econimic damage on me. The only reason I sent my girl back was for this reason. I sent her to the store with a list of items to get. My girl and I agreed it would cost only 35 dollars. I gave her 40 dollars and said to the translator and her, "This is a test, lets see how well she does". Well she borrows an additional 40 dollars from the translator and when they get back they tell me I owe this translator person 40 dollars. The message I got was my girl was going to overspend in every way she could. And she had already started doing that. Plus I believe that it is wrong to borrow money from anybody. Even if you are short lunch money. People who do that appear to lack integrity. That behavior kept on happening. It established a behavior that would have continued if I married that girl.
So if you get hooked up with the wrong girl who puts herself on a pedastal or thinks she is "RICH", then you better watch out if you marry her.
Read about more of that experience from this perspective.
http://www.luckylovers.net/f/text/87.The+Hidden+Expenses+of+a+F oreign+Bride
Disc999.I agree she treated you cruel and bad.
In the profile of a woman on any site in which a woman advertises her self the man can sometimes get a few clues about her mind and motives.
If she says she wants a man that is "financially secure" -it means she wants a rich man.
Likes "shopping"= want you to go in shops with her a spend mans money.
Seeks "generous" man = wants man to give her lots of money because she has No intention of getting even a part time job once she locates to your country.
It is true that SOME FSU ladies seem to think that it is their RIGHT, in return for bestowing the wonder of their presence, to take anything they can from western men. Their IS a certain resentment harbored for the success we have in the west among some ladies over and they seem to think that they are due compensation for the regualr ordinary fare western guys who pick them up.
One of my ladies was repeatedly chided by store keepers (in Russian of course) "Go ahead and TAKE the more expensive boots. HE's paying for them anyway." It was an appeal to some sisterhood of the downtrodden I guess. But since my lady was with me - she resented that sort of treatment as much as she knew I would. There were many times that she was considering between two items in a store and suddenly my lady would insist on leaving abruptly. She was ususally quite ticked and then she would say "Do you know what the sales lady was telling me to do....?"
They know that they are beautiful. They know that we often have more money than the local guys do - and they expect to be rewarded for the time they spend with us. And they find it amusing among themselves.
Remember, I refer here to only SOME FSU women - but they are best avoided.