hi all... i flew into borispol on saturday, and apart from my bag not turning up for another day everything has been fantastic! i'm here for another six weeks with olya. mind you it's a bit hotter than back in the uk and it's a bit hectic with some election for mayor or something going on.
i can't believe just how cheap ciggies and vodka is over here. i'm going to have to start smoking less after my first week i think!
bit of a false start... i was meant to fly here on friday but i couldn't find anywhere to stay so gave up. sent olya an sms, who promptly replied (a little bit mad) asking why i didn't ask her to help me out. ah... so i booked a flight for saturday morning. there was a bunch of women outside the train station advertising flats to rent. so it wasn't a problem after all...
is there anywhere to post photos here? i've been taking far too many... if not i'll bung them on facebook.
well i'm still here and i love kiev! applying for jobs now (geeky software engineering stuff). olya is even more than i thought she would be! and as stubborn and hot-headed as i thought she was! :-)
"the scorpions" played in kiev centre the other week (not my cup of tea, but they were fantastic live), went to a 2 day music festival, where "napalm death" were playing! haven't been a fan of their's for years, but it was great to see a british band! also went to a carl cox club night (much more my kind of thing!) and saw lenny kravitz play! who was sooooo cool!
done loads of other stuff, went to the zoo (!) and the black sea! hope to see odessa soon, but that might have to wait until i come back in a few weeks.
i'm still a bit shocked at the prices of their ciggies... i bought a pack of 20 a couple of days ago for 9 pence and they weren't actually too bad!
the only bad things about kiev that i have seen are their roads and public toilets! pretty much all the girls are stunning. went to a club last night (dance/techno) and the girls there were *amazing*!
i know i'm 36 and olya is 23, but it really doesn't feel like that. her best friend is 21 and married to a guy who is 44, so i guess it's not all that strange? i guess it's just important if you're into the same kind of stuff and can chat for hours. and boy have we chatted for hours...! mind you she isn't really a big fan of dance music until she's had a few drinks, but she says she'll always come along if i get some nights dj'ing over here.
anyway... just gone 2am so we're off out to a 24 hour sushi restaraunt (sp?)
p.s... they (well, her friends, etc) really do toast everything with vodka! i still find it a bit strange drinking vodka shots and then drinking fruit juice rather than just mixing them together in the first place! but it's all good fun!
there's seems to be quite a few jobs as companies out-source here because it's cheaper. i know i won't earn the kind of money i'm used to contracting in the uk, but living is cheaper anyway. i've also had enough of working all hours! and hope to just work part time and dj too. i guess i'll just have to wait and see! :)
Peteb> I'm curious at to the outsourcing companies. Do they need you to speak Russian? I'm sure the rate is going to be cut at 25-50% on the rate. I'm thinking of starting an oursourcing firm there myself in a year or so. But not in Kiev.
For smokers, I found that Ukraine cigarettes are much stronger than in the US version. In South America its the opposite for some reason.
Age gap isn't out of the ordinary. It's more about mutual attraction and security you offer. I hate seeing all these posts about 5-10 yrs is maximum. There are no absolutes. Heck when I was in Colombia it is very normal for older guys to date girls 17 yrs old. Dont ask me how I know this. ;) You just have to get them to tell a female counterpart they know what they are doing it is on their own free will.
Maxi> Date them... but I have met young girls who are more mature than some women in their 30's and others that simply fake maturity.
Bass> Agreed, if her husband isn't young looking and handsome, its hard. Yet, love and family mean a lot to FSU women so I've heard from almost everyone. If there are no children involved I'd say your absolutely correct. It would be a major worry for most men, but I still have heard many success stories of men in their late 50's and mid 60's meeting a younger wife in her 40's. Or am I hearing incorrectly? I don't talk from personal experience here. I just see them on the testimony pages of most marriage agency sites. A stunning wife who puts herself in a position to cheat and find other men, isn't the sort you want to marry anyways...
I cant say id be interested in a girl 17-20 years old what life experiences have they to talk about what can you talk about with them? They havnt lived yet and there is so much to do partying
going out with friends.If they dont do it in early 20,s then they will want to do it eventually better to get it over and done with. Id put the max age gap to 20 years after that the girl has to be a gold digger.The 23-26 age is perfect as said earlier college etc over and ready to settle down.Usually heading into 30,s women have a child or a number of failed relationships where as a man can get over such things it seems to just stick to women like excess baggage.
apal: the offices only require you to speak good english. though i'm going to enrol in a russian course when i go back. i have a few ongoing software contracts at the moment, but might also try working in an office for a bit, even though the pay won't be so good.
maxirat: sorry for not getting back to you. it's been a mad few weeks! i'll contact you.
well... i finally got back to UK last sunday! i managed to miss my last flight! just so you know... if you book with flyuia you can always rebook your flight for 50ukp. i cancelled my flight just 20 mins before it was due to leave! traffic was really bad to borispil and i hadn't quite left enough time!
well... i intend going back for a week or so in the next few weeks and then permanently (hopefully) after september.
as for life experiences... i'd say she has a lot for a 23 year old! the age gap never came up, and we had basically been living together for over 2 months.
pete, can you tell more about the sw jobs there ? I'm freelancing here, but what are the usual rates in Kiev? What skills are in good demand? I found some job adds but only for permanent jobs, and I would like to go my old route, freelancing :-)
Any insight appreciated...