I was shocked actually when I read some of your experience with BeHappy2day , I didnt deal with them but i always visit their website and check the ladies profiles . I was shocked because I felt that the website is working professionally and I sent to them many messages asking them many questions and they were very polite and kind with me .
I am arabian from middle east from Yemen , and I would like to advice me with some good website that I can trust , I will not go to the airport and get in the plane heading to Russia before I make sure where I'm going and to who , that's because I have a plan and limit budget . I would like to meet well educated Russian girl for serious relationship who is ready to move with me to live where I'm living now ( in the middle east ) .
I met some girls that they are claiming that they are Russian and they sent me many of their pictures and barely they write english and I think they use online translation from Russian to English , after few letters they start to ask me to send them some money for different reasons , here I know that they are trying to use me and they are not serious and not interested .
today I was shocked when I read for Monada some comments that Ukranian girls choose the man according to the color skin , maybe some of them but not all . coz I heard from trusted source that russian and Ukranian women dont care about such things as much as the quality of man and his honesty and his intention to build steady family and being responsible man .
if anyone can provide me with trusted website that I can trust in before I go to Russia for marriage , I will be grateful for help , and thanks in advance for any help
"today I was shocked when I read for Monada some comments that Ukranian girls choose the man according to the color skin , maybe some of them but not all . coz I heard from trusted source that russian and Ukranian women dont care about such things as much as the quality of man and his honesty and his intention to build steady family and being responsible man ."
Ooooo.... Somebody bought into the advertising copy again.
But seriously... those things "quality of the man and his honesty and his intentions" are certainly important - but like any other cultural group, FSU ladies have their prejudices and biases toward men of different groups too.
I've had Russian/Ukrainian ladies in the past asking me if I was aware that they had had a war with Germany during the 1940's, I politely answered, to the effect, that I was aware and 'we' had had some involvement in it also :)
Yes, walk in to any cafe or bar and it's the topic of the day, they just can't stop talking about, the US strike on Japan in excess of 60 years ago :)
But then they don't need to travel halfway around the world to be threatened by nukes, they've got it in their own back yard at Chernobyl!
courtious, I have heard of some Ukrainian women living in Muslim countries, the issue is not how good your intentions are ( I am sure you are a nice person) but do you ever consider the differences in cultures? the Russian and Ukrainian women (western in general) enjoy a very high freedom in their societies, even with the best of your intention, will you be able to provide that? no love for man will replace freedom...(or for woman)
We have Medical Academy and lots of arabian fellows study here. recently I see even arabian girls.
thus some of those young arabian men marry unkrainian women. give you two stories.
1. My school mate, the most quet girl in class, not very good in studing did married arab. they've got a girl named Esmeralda.... and when she was second time pregnant, her husband took her to Lebanon....
since then her perants doesn't know how is she, if everything is good, they can't travel there (nobody invites them), they can't take their daughter back..... he called few times and that's all.
I do hope she's happy and alive, and respected.....
2. The daughter of another village woman is married with Tunisian man. After she born a child from him they married. He didn't want a baby, she registered herself as single mother, but as the child was BOY, he married her. Now all three they left for Tunis.
They oftern querrel. Husband calles her slut (from time to time) and few times she took knife to kill him or throw away from house (they've been living in house of her mother).
3. have another school mate who recently moved to Bodrum to her boy friend. This lady knows English, German, French, Russian and Ukrainian. Her boyfrien is doctor. I wish them well but can't understand her.
5. In spite of all it's hard to say what is better what is worse. To marry arab the woman should be ready to accept arabian culture. Then - no prob. She has to accept also that she, as a foreigner, won't ever be protected nor by law, nor by rich relatives. Maybe she has a chance to have a good husband, but it will cost her freedom - she'll need to ask permition for every her step.
Keep in mind what women here are grown in society dening any religion. They are "orthodox" but in fact - atheistic and never any religios rules would be able to overcome the common sense rules.
Guys keep in mind what Monada wrote:Women here are grown in society denying any religion.They are orthodox but in fact atheistic.
It is like that.Do not complain for lack of morality of ukrainian girls etc beause this lack of morality made them fall for you.
i know the cultural differences , each society has its own way of living and life style differe ...BUT... there is always limitation for freedom , freedom is a relative word , here where i am living there is enough freedom for woman to work in many field , but the society here is conservative , if my society is conservative that doesnt mean my society is closed as if we were living in a deserted place , it's totally wrong .
what i want is disciplined woman who really want to live steady life with a disciplined man who wants to creat a good family and have well educated children in the future , that means life is not always fun and wine , parties , bars and dancing !! this kind of life is not for those who want to creat a good family with children ....To Be Continued
if i marry to Russian woman or Ukrainian woman i will show alot of respect to her family and her society , but as soon as we arrive to my society she has to show some respect to my society norms , there is a freedom here but a freedom with a wisdom , in my opinion the life style here is very suitable to have children and make their well future for them . my society rules and life style is maybe strict in your opinion but still LIVABLE ....To Be Continued
my Russian woman who i am looking for can work in my country in many fields , but she has to pay attention to some simple rules where she will live , for example , people here show respect to the traditions , from the traditions that people follow here is the Decent Costume
however , i think it depends on the girl herself , i am sure that there are some girls who are really want to have steady life and such girls i think they will accept to live in , i see in my country many people from europe and america and they live in a happy life , my prefessor in university married to american woman and she adapted with life style here .
corteus, I never say it is impossible, and I am the first to admit that there is much ignorance today in this planet as it was hundred of years ago, but I am just looking at reality, what is "not decent" to your society is normal for another... it has to be an extraordinary bond between the individuals in a relation to overcame any cultural barrier, proof are cases of western women already happily living in other culture such yours, but I am not sure if that "above normal" bond can be develop in a dating site..... I really wish you well and advice you to follow your instinct (not your heart) and your head, and use lots of common sense...
What Monado says is right the ladies I have met all have been raised as Orotodox but actually they dont really believe in Religion and it dosnt affect their lifestyle. For example when I was getting married I asked her would she like to get married in the church ,she replyed she didnt really care and it was my decision but neither she or her mother were really bothered with the church.
And as Monado says there is alot of scare stories of ladies going to the muslim countries ( one friend married and is living there but cant come back as her passport has been taken by her husband and she has no money etc)and they would much rather prefer a western man where they would keep their freedom etc
But then the same fear is here in the west Ive heard many stories of where the muslim man flees back home to his family with the children etc there was a high profile case here lately about the very thing.
Do you really think, Corteous, that life in civilized countries is "always fun and wine , parties , bars and dancing" ???
Here I can say you are very very wrong. "MARRIED" exactly means (in MY world and undestanding) - a lot of work together in building lifestyle tgther, rising kids.
When it comes to what you call "fun and wine , parties , bars and dancing" - in MY WORLD is calls "FUNCTIONS" where people are CERTAIN level and MARRIED (sign of stability) etc etc.
Here the difference is started. Your World keeps woman behind the doors of her own house, even if house is Emporio. But still, it's a closed space. Even if its big.
So.
There are women happy with closed space and women not happy with closed space. Me, personally - I WILL NOT change my FREEDOM for any gold and wealth of planet. I don't care about money in this case. For my freedom I die, I kill, I do whatever and I don't care for anything.
This is the main principle when relation with me starts and man has two choices: accept and live with me or not accept and blow off with speed of rocket.
the result of that is clear: I have a western husband. And I live in the same moral and value borders and you described but on top of that I have my freedom to be free. And if I don't do anything (wine , parties, bars and dancing) - its because of my OWN WILL and cs WE TWO have smthing better to do + whenever we feel boring we can get all fun-beer-bars-wine we want.
So.
This all might be too complicated for you. Stict rules and borders are for undeveloped people set up by more developed people.
what class you belong to and what class will belong your wife - your own decition based on your FREE WILL.
What does your mother think about your intention to marry Ukrainian girl?
Without your family aprovement you will definitely fail.
What is your financial situation? As I understand that girl will not be able to have a descent job in Saudi and have to rely on you completely. Why your mother cannot find a descent Arabian girl? Don't you have money at all?
Maximum that you can expect from Ukrainian girl - is a lot of respect in front of your family members, but she will be a rather wise boss in your house and you need to accept this.
If you are not able to find an Arabian girl then try Muslim republic of FSU such as Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan.
I have friend in Saudi. They know some russian who works as a babysitters there.